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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Neop wrote: Is expecting some form of response after government order has been restored really that outrageous?


Not if the Defenders were Lazarus natives. However, they are not.

They are demanding from the native of Lazarus that they accommodate what the defenders want and trying to bully Lazarus into it. They are no better than what they falsely accuse me of.

Suddenly, all the natives you expelled from their region were never really natives to begin with...
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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Neop wrote: Is expecting some form of response after government order has been restored really that outrageous?


Not if the Defenders were Lazarus natives. However, they are not.

They are demanding from the native of Lazarus that they accommodate what the defenders want and trying to bully Lazarus into it. They are no better than what they falsely accuse me of.


More than 70% of the government and active voting base was banned by you and your friends. There was an election involving you, where people became citizens during a vote and voted.

I personally know for a fact that most of the people saying things about you that were positive, were brand fucking new during the coup, days old or even minutes old.
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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:12 pm

Vadia wrote:-snip-


Ah look, the non-native Defender has arrived to lecture us about the true realties of Lazarus.

Oh please, tell me all about how Lazarus really is. As a non-defender native, I've been blind to the superior knowledge you have about my region. Knowledge that you have no doubted gained by being an armchair observer.

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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:17 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Vadia wrote:-snip-


Ah look, the non-native Defender has arrived to lecture us about the true realties of Lazarus.

Oh please, tell me all about how Lazarus really is. As a non-defender native, I've been blind to the superior knowledge you have about my region. Knowledge that you have no doubted gained by being an armchair observer.


I've been here since when Andrew was Delegate, that's over seven delegates ago.

Before your regime, we had a forum, we had elections, we had festivals and we had RP; after your regime, we had none of those things.

On top of that, I have been told over and over again by people bailing on the region, that they did it to "Avoid Funk and Olykey" or whatever his name was.

The fact you have no idea who I am, proves you barely are involved in Lazarus besides taking it over recently and have a post before that, and whatever else you had years ago.
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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:18 pm

Vadia wrote:The fact you have no idea who I am, proves you barely are involved in Lazarus besides taking it over recently and have a post before that, and whatever else you had years ago.


Or it proves you were barely involved in Lazarus. Your description of events sounds like to heard it by sitting next to two people discussing it on a loud public bus.
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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:21 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Vadia wrote:The fact you have no idea who I am, proves you barely are involved in Lazarus besides taking it over recently and have a post before that, and whatever else you had years ago.


Or it proves you were barely involved in Lazarus.


Three of your biggest mouthpieces are now declaring they want nothing to do with you. Corm, Sept, NCR.

Do you have a single mouthpiece who isn't denying a relationship, or saying bad things about you now?

Are you still refusing to answer for the death of elections, the forum, RP, culture, festivals, and even the damn military?

You don't even have half an excuse for what happened?

EDIT:

Lets see what the "Defender Bullies" did:

Allow elections, promote RP, Coexist with raiders, coexist with pretty much everyone.

And what did our "Raider Liberators" do:

Ban elections, kill RP, purge anyone who was a tiny bit defender, purge other raiders for not being raider enough, kill the forum, change the theme twice without an election, throw out the constitution, make a new one without a vote, throw that out.

They were here for over a year and in power, and guess what... They didn't' ban a huge pile of people, and then accuse them of a crime after the fact.

Which you did.
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Postby Galiantus III » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:23 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Neop wrote: Is expecting some form of response after government order has been restored really that outrageous?


Not if the Defenders were Lazarus natives. However, they are not.

They are demanding from the native of Lazarus that they accommodate what the defenders want and trying to bully Lazarus into it. They are no better than what they falsely accuse me of.


Oh my goodness. You actually believe the lies you've told yourself. I thought you were just playing around because you were in power, but now that you've lost your throne you actually believe you are the victim here. These kinds of delusions are exactly why it is a good thing you have finally lost. Your abuses have set back Lazarus pretty far, but I have high hope the natives will soon recover and this will all be remembered as a nightmare from which they gladly awoke.
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Elegarth the Patio King
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Postby Elegarth the Patio King » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:25 pm

Vadia wrote:
Elegarth wrote:Your tenacity on trying to keep them altogether is admirable... Heh...

Curiously enough, even when I considered that the NLO wasn't a good thing, and that I was part of the NPO leadership when that happened, I do think that Lazarus never had as much stability as when it was shadow-controlled by the NPO... Sad, isn't it?

I think LAZARUS needs its dignity. I think LAZARUS deserves to be TREATED and HANDLED like a GCR, and not like a tool or a toy, which is what has been happening for a couple years now...


Hello, are you speaking for yourself or TWP, which treats this Gee Cee Arr, as a Tee Oh Why.

I have been retired and absent from TWP for a Good 8 or 9 months, lol. How could I speak for them? This is seriously non-sensical. Will you also say I speak on behalf of TEP cuz I spent the last 6 or 7 months there? Or NPO cuz I was once Regent?

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Postby Altmoras » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:33 pm

The Celestial Republic was stable for about 6 months when Loftegen was delegate, then we elected total weirdo Starberry/XIV and it all went downhill from there.
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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:53 pm

Altmoras wrote:The Celestial Republic was stable for about 6 months when Loftegen was delegate, then we elected total weirdo Starberry/XIV and it all went downhill from there.


In our defense, Starberry fooled like two or three regions. Too bad they turned out to be an attention-grabbing liar and fake.
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Amerion
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Postby Amerion » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:35 am

Sigh ... you know when you wake up from a coma and you find out that 17 years has passed, your wife has remarried and your toddler is now a pretentious know-it-all ... that is how I feel
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Neop
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Postby Neop » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:42 am

Amerion wrote:... you know when you wake up from a coma and you find out that 17 years has passed, your wife has remarried and your toddler is now a pretentious know-it-all ...

Can't say I do.
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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:06 am

Altmoras wrote:The Celestial Republic was stable for about 6 months when Loftegen was delegate, then we elected total weirdo Starberry/XIV and it all went downhill from there.


I didn't realize Starberry was bad for Lazarus.
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Amerion
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Postby Amerion » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Altmoras wrote:The Celestial Republic was stable for about 6 months when Loftegen was delegate, then we elected total weirdo Starberry/XIV and it all went downhill from there.


I didn't realize Starberry was bad for Lazarus.

(He) was very good when he was active
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:05 am

Y’all, just put Wolf on your ignore list. I said at the beginning of this saga that he has never accomplished anything himself, that Lazarus was handed to him on a silver platter by Funkadelia. Well, what was given to him has now been taken away, because he never actually put in the work to get it in the first place. Just let him fade back into obscurity.

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Vadia wrote:What makes Tread fitting, is that in a system of rank based voting, where some canidates are voted first and others last, he's never voted last.

This effectively means he's the candidate that doesn't make anyone angry, which means stability and unity. This is what we need.

To be blunt, what you need is for the coupers to be banjected and orderly government restored. That brings stability. Not being Mr. Congeniality.

Also, listen to Cormac here. TSP suffered a year and a half of debilitating infighting that nearly broke the region several times, all because we decided it would be better to “forgive and forget” those who perpetrated Hileville’s coup. Just ban the coupers, because they’ve already shown they don’t care about laws or social standing, so long as they have a banject button to use.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:26 am

Is anyone concerned that Minineenee looks like a LKE plant being pilled high with pro-former regime endorsements?

An Onder run dictatorship in Lazarus would suck. Think a stony-faced Puritan regime that hands out a diet of dry toast, with nothing on it. As the fun people are sure to be perm-banned.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:31 am

New Rogernomics wrote:Is anyone concerned that Minineenee looks like a LKE plant being pilled high with pro-former regime endorsements?

An Onder run dictatorship in Lazarus would suck. Think a stony-faced Puritan regime that hands out a diet of dry toast, with nothing on it. As the fun people are sure to be perm-banned.

Oh, we all see it. It’s surely the Rahls just being an RP family, not the power hungry opportunists they appear to be. :/

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United Massachusetts
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:02 am

Christian Lazarus would be so beautiful.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:14 am

Also, regarding KK's defender stuff, I didn't see much of any pressure. I saw some people forcefully suggest banning, and (in my opinion) the most explicit defender who showed up (Vinny) told the candidate to cut the bullshit and answer the question.

So no, I don't 'defenders' are pressuring anyone

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Postby Syberis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:20 am

United Massachusetts wrote:Christian Lazarus would be so beautiful.


I hope you mean theme and not ideology. Because the last thing we need is a religious Sinker. Even then it's not a great idea.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:26 am

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United Massachusetts wrote:Christian Lazarus would be so beautiful.


I hope you mean theme and not ideology. Because the last thing we need is a religious Sinker. Even then it's not a great idea.

Religion in NS is only allowed to be based around NSers :p
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:45 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Syberis wrote:
I hope you mean theme and not ideology. Because the last thing we need is a religious Sinker. Even then it's not a great idea.

Religion in NS is only allowed to be based around NSers :p
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Postby Razzle Dazzle » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:47 am

United Massachusetts wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Religion in NS is only allowed to be based around NSers :p
"Excuse me, have you heard the word of our Lord and chaser Vincent Drake?"

The Christian Commonwealth of Lazarus

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Postby Neop » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:53 am

United Massachusetts wrote:Christian Lazarus would be so beautiful.


This whole Lazarus ordeal is giving even Christian NS a chance to feel relevant
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:08 am

Neop wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Christian Lazarus would be so beautiful.


This whole Lazarus ordeal is giving even Christian NS a chance to feel relevant


I think a mixed religion Lazarus would be beautiful.

I could really dig a "rebirth" theme.

Maybe a mix of Christianity, Buddhism, and Hinduism?
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