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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:01 pm

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Valgora wrote:I took Sociology 101 at my community college.
My teacher liked me, but he also like to make fun of me for being a Marxist.


That is odd, considering that post-1960s sociology is dominated by Marxists and anarchists. Even if he was not a Marxist himself, it seems odd that he would make fun of one. Any sociologist, whether they like it or not, is surrounded by Marxists and anarchists.


Probably the sociology teacher was secretly venting his frustration with the numerous amount of Marxist academians. If he can

If I were a sociology teacher, I'd just gloss over Marx and focus on Spencer and Weber, anyway. Functionalism ftw.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:03 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
That is odd, considering that post-1960s sociology is dominated by Marxists and anarchists. Even if he was not a Marxist himself, it seems odd that he would make fun of one. Any sociologist, whether they like it or not, is surrounded by Marxists and anarchists.


Probably the sociology teacher was secretly venting his frustration with the numerous amount of Marxist academians. If he can

If I were a sociology teacher, I'd just gloss over Marx and focus on Spencer and Weber, anyway. Functionalism ftw.

Functionalism is idealistic and unreal, but conflict theory is equally wrong. Symbolic interactionism ftw.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:18 pm

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Well, the same could be said of many conservatives as well, in a 'no true Christian' sort of way.


I don't understand. Religious and political beliefs are separate things entirely.

No more than philosophy and political beliefs are separate things entirely
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:54 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:If I were a sociology teacher, I'd just gloss over Marx and focus on Spencer and Weber, anyway. Functionalism ftw.


I spend most of my time talking about Marx. Weber is okay, but Spencer's work is really only valuable in studying the history of sociology.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:55 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Functionalism is idealistic and unreal, but conflict theory is equally wrong. Symbolic interactionism ftw.


I don't like any of the ones you mentioned, especially functionalism (which is almost dead anyway) and symbolic interactionism (which is based on American idealism and pragmatism).
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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:56 pm

My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street

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Postby Jelmatt » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:59 pm

New Emeline wrote:My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street


Revisionist. Muppetism is where it's at.
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

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Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:00 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
New Emeline wrote:My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street


Revisionist. Muppetism is where it's at.

Comrade, you disgust me
I can't believe there was a Kermetist in our midst this whole time
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Postby Liriena » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:01 pm

New Emeline wrote:My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street

It's the synthesis of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, Dinosaurs and Cosmos for me.
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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
New Emeline wrote:My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street

It's the synthesis of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, Dinosaurs and Cosmos for me.

I forgot about Mr. Roger's Neighborhood! That's a big part of it too.
And Bill Nye the Science Guy

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Postby Liriena » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:04 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
New Emeline wrote:My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street


Revisionist. Muppetism is where it's at.

This is peak liberal elitism, forsaking the kind proletarians of Sesame Street for the entitled, decadent lifestyle of bourgeois TV celebrities.
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Political compass stuff:
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Jelmatt » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:04 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:
Revisionist. Muppetism is where it's at.

Comrade, you disgust me
I can't believe there was a Kermetist in our midst this whole time


Oh so we're going to political buzzwords now huh
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

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What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide."
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The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:05 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:If I were a sociology teacher, I'd just gloss over Marx and focus on Spencer and Weber, anyway. Functionalism ftw.


I spend most of my time talking about Marx. Weber is okay, but Spencer's work is really only valuable in studying the history of sociology.


Tis a crime to ignore the great Spencer. You do a great disservice, methinks.

Weber is alright, yes. I think The Protestant Ethic is enlightening, though I can see why his definitions of things could conflict with that of Marx's.
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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:05 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Comrade, you disgust me
I can't believe there was a Kermitist in our midst this whole time


Oh so we're going to political buzzwords now huh

If it walks like a Kermit, quacks like a Kermit
It's probably a Kermitist.

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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:09 pm

Liriena wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:
Revisionist. Muppetism is where it's at.

This is peak liberal elitism, forsaking the kind proletarians of Sesame Street for the entitled, decadent lifestyle of bourgeois TV celebrities.

Miss Piggy clearly is meant to represent the worst of the bourgeoisie elite

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Postby Jelmatt » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:16 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Jelmatt wrote:
Oh so we're going to political buzzwords now huh

If it walks like a Kermit, quacks like a Kermit
It's probably a Kermitist.


Is that what Elmoites think now
This nation does not represent my actual views. A semi-feudal absolute monarchy going through political upheaval.

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"Thy enchantments bind together,
What did custom stern divide,
Every man becomes a brother,
Where thy gentle wings abide."
-- Ode to Joy (translated from German)
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


The market is the people Aillyria. You should know this. And if the people want hentai, who are we to question?

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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:19 pm

Jelmatt wrote:
New Emeline wrote:If it walks like a Kermit, quacks like a Kermit
It's probably a Kermitist.


Is that what Elmoites think now

I'd rather be an Elmoite than a puppet of the bourgeoisie Kermit

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Postby Valgora » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:19 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Probably the sociology teacher was secretly venting his frustration with the numerous amount of Marxist academians. If he can

If I were a sociology teacher, I'd just gloss over Marx and focus on Spencer and Weber, anyway. Functionalism ftw.

Functionalism is idealistic and unreal, but conflict theory is equally wrong. Symbolic interactionism ftw.

Conflict Theory is far superior to Structural-Functionalism.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:20 pm

Valgora wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Functionalism is idealistic and unreal, but conflict theory is equally wrong. Symbolic interactionism ftw.

Conflict Theory is far superior to Structural-Functionalism.

Do tell.
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Postby Valgora » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:23 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Valgora wrote:I took Sociology 101 at my community college.
My teacher liked me, but he also like to make fun of me for being a Marxist.


That is odd, considering that post-1960s sociology is dominated by Marxists and anarchists. Even if he was not a Marxist himself, it seems odd that he would make fun of one. Any sociologist, whether they like it or not, is surrounded by Marxists and anarchists.

I said no, because it's utopian.


Did this fellow have a Ph.D. in sociology or only an M.A.?

I'm pretty sure I was the only Marxist and the closest thing to an anarchist in that class.
Remember: I live in Arkansas.

But why is it fun he would make fun of me for being a Marxist? He was just joking around.
But he called himself an Eisenhower Republican.
He was pretty cool though. I really enjoyed that class and having him as a teacher.

He had a Master's Degree I think. I know he didn't have a Ph.D.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:26 pm

New Emeline wrote:My entire political ideology is based off of Sesame Street

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Postby Valgora » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:27 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Valgora wrote:Conflict Theory is far superior to Structural-Functionalism.

Do tell.

Since I'm fairly cynical, I prefer the theory that basically boils everything down to conflict.

I remember when we learned about the different theories. The teacher said "Alright. How many of y'all think Structural-Functionalism is correct?" No one raise hand. "So y'all are all a bunch of cynics. Alright, how many of y'all think Marx was more correct than Durkheim?" Everyone raise hand.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:28 pm

Valgora wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Functionalism is idealistic and unreal, but conflict theory is equally wrong. Symbolic interactionism ftw.

Conflict Theory is far superior to Structural-Functionalism.

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Postby New Emeline » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Valgora wrote:Conflict Theory is far superior to Structural-Functionalism.

Nah m8y

tfw you have no idea what any of this means

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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:34 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Nah m8y

tfw you have no idea what any of this means

I barely know what I'm talking about either, I just think I'm intellectually superior because I took Soc 101.
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