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by Soviet Lestland » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:56 am
BREAKING NEWS: Rations are given out by the military to civilian population.
by Dwarfpolis » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:58 am
RiderSyl wrote:Dwarfpolis wrote:Everybody you described in total adds up to three people TOPS. We still have more commies and socdems than that.
How many of those Commies and SocDems are engaged on the KR Discord? 'Cause the Discord is what mattered. That's where the nasty shit was said. Not in the region.
It used to be just one antisemitic guy (who totes wasn't a Nazi) and now it's three. Ok.
Their use of nazi propaganda, milded down to remove swastikas and SS symbols does justify for once, bause if they were truly imperialist, they would use ww1 posters, rather refraining to posters from the time of the nazis.
by RiderSyl » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:09 am
Dwarfpolis wrote:Firstly, the commies and socdems weren't in the photos because the photo-taker wanted to demonstrate that KR was a fascist region and anything contradicting that wouldn't suit his point.
Dwarfpolis wrote:Most/all. Why does the discord matter anyways? Are you admitting that's the last stand this liberation can make?
Dwarfpolis wrote:We edited nazi propaganda not to be nazi so we're nazi, i see.
by Dwarfpolis » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:14 am
RiderSyl wrote:Dwarfpolis wrote:Firstly, the commies and socdems weren't in the photos because the photo-taker wanted to demonstrate that KR was a fascist region and anything contradicting that wouldn't suit his point.
Oh, now your counterargument is that it's a conspiracy against you. Wonderful. I'll bite. Which Commies and SocDems weren't in the photos?Dwarfpolis wrote:Most/all. Why does the discord matter anyways? Are you admitting that's the last stand this liberation can make?
Of course. No way was I pointing out that your continued references to people in the region didn't mean a damn thing because those people aren't involved in the arena where your community lets loose with its most offensive bullshit. I was clearly admitting something that would make your entire argument for you. Well done.Dwarfpolis wrote:We edited nazi propaganda not to be nazi so we're nazi, i see.
No. A few years back, you used actual Nazi propaganda and were called out for it. You removed them and then someone re-added them with the Nazi stuff edited out. You were called out for it again. It was removed then re-added later. You were called out for it again. It has never been removed. You've been called out repeatedly since and KR and members of it like you have just put out weak-ass justifications for it like the one you just put out.
There. Straightened that out.
by RiderSyl » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:25 am
Dwarfpolis wrote:what?
Dwarfpolis wrote:What?
Dwarfpolis wrote:List of soc-dems/commie countries off the top of my head, more coming soon:
Danubian Fed
Molvania
Eastern Germanic Countries
Risen Prussia anything but fascist
Dwarfpolis wrote:Why would a photo of 3 people in a discord of more than 30 signify anything?
Dwarfpolis wrote:Ok so it's still nazi propaganda edited not to be nazi that is found nazi by non-nazis.
by Dwarfpolis » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:27 am
RiderSyl wrote:Dwarfpolis wrote:what?
Let's move past the fact you don't understand your own counter-argument and see if you'll answer the question if I pose it again. Which Communist/SocDem members of your Discord were excluded from the photos in the conspiracy to make your community look bad?Dwarfpolis wrote:What?
It's sarcasm. Don't play dumb.Dwarfpolis wrote:List of soc-dems/commie countries off the top of my head, more coming soon:
Danubian Fed
Molvania
Eastern Germanic Countries
Risen Prussia anything but fascist
I have yet to make an idealogical argument of any kind and yet you'll still doing this shit. Why are trying so hard to prove you're not fascist to someone that isn't accusing you of being fascist? I'm really starting to wonder.Dwarfpolis wrote:Why would a photo of 3 people in a discord of more than 30 signify anything?
I dunno, ask the Liberation badge at the top of your region what it signifies.Dwarfpolis wrote:Ok so it's still nazi propaganda edited not to be nazi that is found nazi by non-nazis.
Hahahaha, what?! Does it need to be found Nazi by actual real-life Nazis before KR is in the wrong here? What the fuck.
by RiderSyl » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:40 am
Dwarfpolis wrote:Okay, I have no idea what you're trying to say, do rephrase your argument in your next reply to me.
by Dwarfpolis » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:44 am
RiderSyl wrote:Dwarfpolis wrote:Okay, I have no idea what you're trying to say, do rephrase your argument in your next reply to me.
1. The lazily edited WW2-era German posters have to be axed permanently. They've been around for years and nobody in KR has been able to justify their continued existence. They're a bad look that gives a bad vibe to new recruits and gives ammunition to KR's foes. I know that it's difficult to find good art of the German Empire, but you guys have to stop giving into laziness.
2. NationStates is a very liberal community overall, and "it's just a joke" is no longer saving anyone from having their comments used against them if they're deemed too offensive for the average NS user. Since the average NS user has a liberal slant, you guys are on the wrong side of this as long as those 3 members aren't thrown under the bus for the good of the region. No matter how much you protest the diversity of KR, it won't matter.
by Federal American Union » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:58 am
by Kurnugia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:34 am
RiderSyl wrote:Dwarfpolis wrote:Okay, I have no idea what you're trying to say, do rephrase your argument in your next reply to me.
1. The lazily edited WW2-era German posters have to be axed permanently. They've been around for years and nobody in KR has been able to justify their continued existence. They're a bad look that gives a bad vibe to new recruits and gives ammunition to KR's foes. I know that it's difficult to find good art of the German Empire, but you guys have to stop giving into laziness.
by Drasnia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:57 am
by Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:39 am
by Rrborn » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:43 am
RiderSyl wrote:Dwarfpolis wrote:Okay, I have no idea what you're trying to say, do rephrase your argument in your next reply to me.
1. The lazily edited WW2-era German posters have to be axed permanently. They've been around for years and nobody in KR has been able to justify their continued existence. They're a bad look that gives a bad vibe to new recruits and gives ammunition to KR's foes. I know that it's difficult to find good art of the German Empire, but you guys have to stop giving into laziness.
2. NationStates is a very liberal community overall, and "it's just a joke" is no longer saving anyone from having their comments used against them if they're deemed too offensive for the average NS user. Since the average NS user has a liberal slant, you guys are on the wrong side of this as long as those 3 members aren't thrown under the bus for the good of the region. No matter how much you protest, using the ideological diversity of KR, it won't matter.
by Scheinenland » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:44 am
Kaboomlandia wrote:Opposed.
Yes, it's an offensive liberation against a foundered region, which is functionally useless.
However, K-Reich actually is fascist, unlike the other proposals of this type. They and NE should keep their libs.
by Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:49 am
Scheinenland wrote:Kaboomlandia wrote:Opposed.
Yes, it's an offensive liberation against a foundered region, which is functionally useless.
However, K-Reich actually is fascist, unlike the other proposals of this type. They and NE should keep their libs.
After all these liberations went down, I joined other affected regions' servers. When I joined Nazi Europa I was made extremely uneasy by what was said and what they discussed. Kaiserreich and Nazi Europa aren't even close to the same category... And please, I really wish this baffoon didn't open his mouth in the first place, he absolutely doesn't represent how we feel and act in Kaiserreich.
by Rrborn » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:52 am
Kaboomlandia wrote:Scheinenland wrote:
After all these liberations went down, I joined other affected regions' servers. When I joined Nazi Europa I was made extremely uneasy by what was said and what they discussed. Kaiserreich and Nazi Europa aren't even close to the same category... And please, I really wish this baffoon didn't open his mouth in the first place, he absolutely doesn't represent how we feel and act in Kaiserreich.
It's one of the worst-kept secrets in the entire game that K-Reich is a Nazi supporter region, and has been for years now.
by Prydania » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:54 am
Dwarfpolis wrote:<Dreyfus affair photo>It used to be just one antisemitic guy (who totes wasn't a Nazi) and now it's three. Ok.
You are literally not able to refute that we're more lefty than antisemitic and you're now grasping at this straw. Why do you want KR to be fascist so much?
by Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:04 pm
by Scheinenland » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:06 pm
Kaboomlandia wrote:Scheinenland wrote:
After all these liberations went down, I joined other affected regions' servers. When I joined Nazi Europa I was made extremely uneasy by what was said and what they discussed. Kaiserreich and Nazi Europa aren't even close to the same category... And please, I really wish this baffoon didn't open his mouth in the first place, he absolutely doesn't represent how we feel and act in Kaiserreich.
It's one of the worst-kept secrets in the entire game that K-Reich is a Nazi supporter region, and has been for years now.
by Rrborn » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:11 pm
by Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:14 pm
Scheinenland wrote:Kaboomlandia wrote:It's one of the worst-kept secrets in the entire game that K-Reich is a Nazi supporter region, and has been for years now.
I don't expect you to believe me, but personally, I rarely see the kind of anti-semitic jokes that are in the Discord evidence. That doesn't mean they don't happen, because in a region like Kaiserreich, just the name attracts more unwanted individuals than it should. They definitely occasionally occur though, and in all honesty, there's not much anyone can do about it. If all they were doing was shitposting, there might be public outcry against Kaiserreich that it is a censoring police-state, potentially crippling its stability. Most of us have no affiliation or interest in Nazism at all, and in fact hate it. While there are Nazis in Kaiserreich, they are not the majority, and they do not represent the majority.
by Scheinenland » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:18 pm
by Scheinenland » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:20 pm
Kaboomlandia wrote:Scheinenland wrote:I don't expect you to believe me, but personally, I rarely see the kind of anti-semitic jokes that are in the Discord evidence. That doesn't mean they don't happen, because in a region like Kaiserreich, just the name attracts more unwanted individuals than it should. They definitely occasionally occur though, and in all honesty, there's not much anyone can do about it. If all they were doing was shitposting, there might be public outcry against Kaiserreich that it is a censoring police-state, potentially crippling its stability. Most of us have no affiliation or interest in Nazism at all, and in fact hate it. While there are Nazis in Kaiserreich, they are not the majority, and they do not represent the majority.
If K-Reich had any respectability whatsoever, there wouldn't be free reign to make Holocaust jokes. In a Discord channel that is open to any Tom, Dick, and Harry.
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