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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:06 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
People don't agree on much of anything here.

That's something we all agree on, lol. But yeah, most people here represent entirely different currents of "leftism". Of course, we can't even agree on what leftism even is either.

Isn't it kind of a regional thing also? Left meaning something different in the US than in Britain.

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Postby Aillyria » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:13 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's something we all agree on, lol. But yeah, most people here represent entirely different currents of "leftism". Of course, we can't even agree on what leftism even is either.

Isn't it kind of a regional thing also? Left meaning something different in the US than in Britain.

That's true. The US mainstream "left" is basically identical to our right, for all intents and purposes.
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West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:16 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Taihei Tengoku wrote:But why is this inherently bad?

Because would you want to have something taken from you, that you made, being paid less than the worth of the item you made?

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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:18 pm

Aillyria wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Isn't it kind of a regional thing also? Left meaning something different in the US than in Britain.

That's true. The US mainstream "left" is basically identical to our right, for all intents and purposes.

Except they are much more triggered.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:19 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's true. The US mainstream "left" is basically identical to our right, for all intents and purposes.

Except they are much more triggered.


This meme needs to fucking die.
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Postby Aillyria » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:19 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's true. The US mainstream "left" is basically identical to our right, for all intents and purposes.

Except they are much more triggered.

Not really. The conservatives bitch about "muh laissez-faire" all the time.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:21 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu wrote:Mad respect to the three best men of Communism

1. Che Guevara
2. Mao Zedong
3. Pol Pot


> Not Comrade Stalin or Lenin.

Mao and Che are fine with me tho.

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:21 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's true. The US mainstream "left" is basically identical to our right, for all intents and purposes.

Except they are much more triggered.

Saying triggered is just so tired at this point
Also the right gets pretty worked up about stuff too so...

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Postby Aillyria » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:21 pm

Valrifell wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Except they are much more triggered.


This meme needs to fucking die.

Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:22 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This meme needs to fucking die.

Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.

Because it gets applied to literally any emotional or just strong reaction involving politics, justified or not.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:22 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Aillyria wrote:That's true. The US mainstream "left" is basically identical to our right, for all intents and purposes.

Except they are much more triggered.

Good meem, not tired at all. I r8 8/8
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:23 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This meme needs to fucking die.

Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.

calling us "retarded" is ableist, check ur privilege m8erooni
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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:25 pm

Aillyria wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Except they are much more triggered.

Not really. The conservatives bitch about "muh laissez-faire" all the time.

Or MUH HOOMIN NAYTSHUR! Image
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

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Postby Aillyria » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:26 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.

Because it gets applied to literally any emotional or just strong reaction involving politics, justified or not.

More often than not it's justified, tbh.

Cekoviu wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.

calling us "retarded" is ableist, check ur privilege m8erooni

Are you self-identifying as an SJW? That's strange, I never considered you one...... :o
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:28 pm

Aillyria wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Because it gets applied to literally any emotional or just strong reaction involving politics, justified or not.

More often than not it's justified, tbh.

It must depend on where and when you are. I've gotten called "triggered" or told that I'm an SJW for some pretty basic statements.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:28 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Not really. The conservatives bitch about "muh laissez-faire" all the time.

Or MUH HOOMIN NAYTSHUR! Image

The left can't meme.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:28 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Or MUH HOOMIN NAYTSHUR! Image

The left can't meme.

I'm disowning that meme.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:29 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Not really. The conservatives bitch about "muh laissez-faire" all the time.

Or MUH HOOMIN NAYTSHUR!
Image

For the love of Bernstein, PLEASE spoiler your images.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:31 pm

Aillyria wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Because it gets applied to literally any emotional or just strong reaction involving politics, justified or not.

More often than not it's justified, tbh.

Nah.

Cekoviu wrote:calling us "retarded" is ableist, check ur privilege m8erooni

Are you self-identifying as an SJW? That's strange, I never considered you one...... :o

I've been called an SJW before, yet you don't think I am one. It's almost like SJW has no universal definition, thereby making it a meaningless snarl word.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Or MUH HOOMIN NAYTSHUR!
Image

The left can't meme.

We can meme, but there are occasional flubs like that.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Albrenia wrote:Well, if I didn't supply or own the materials, or the tools, or the location and marketing of the final sale, it wouldn't be unfair for others to get a share of the wealth.


Yes, but that is one of the contradictions of capitalism. Under communism, the capital will be seized, by force if necessary, from the capitalists and collectivized in worker cooperatives.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Aillyria wrote:That's something we all agree on, lol. But yeah, most people here represent entirely different currents of "leftism". Of course, we can't even agree on what leftism even is either.


Most, yes. However, you have personally said that you don't identity with the Left.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:11 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This meme needs to fucking die.

Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.

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Postby Rostavykhan » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:16 pm

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Aillyria wrote:Why? It's an actual phenomenon that started with the socially retarded SJWs and their tantrums.

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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:39 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Freed market socialism, yo.

>free market
>socialism
Pick one


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