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Postby Albrenia » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:30 pm

Kramanica wrote:
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Maybe if you wait a few fucking hours instead of jumping on every little minor thing the investigation does as some colossal misstep that invalidates the whole process. It's very annoying that whenever Mueller is mentioned in the thread you seem to spawn to repeat "LOL WHERE'S THE COLLUSION MY BOI TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG"

I do love that I'm famous.

I do that because the schmuck was appointed to find collusion but has somehow managed to find literally everything but collusion.

He's found tax evasion, lying to the FBI, failing to register as a foreign agent - garden variety crimes and yet no collusion.

So I'll continue to mock him.


We don't actually know if he has or has not found anything until the investigation is over.

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Postby Hittanryan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:34 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Maybe if you wait a few fucking hours instead of jumping on every little minor thing the investigation does as some colossal misstep that invalidates the whole process. It's very annoying that whenever Mueller is mentioned in the thread you seem to spawn to repeat "LOL WHERE'S THE COLLUSION MY BOI TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG"

I do love that I'm famous.

I do that because the schmuck was appointed to find collusion but has somehow managed to find literally everything but collusion.

He's found tax evasion, lying to the FBI, failing to register as a foreign agent - garden variety crimes and yet no collusion.

So I'll continue to mock him.

If this was the Watergate hearings you would’ve mocked John Dean and Archibald Cox, I’m sure.
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I do love that I'm famous.

I do that because the schmuck was appointed to find collusion but has somehow managed to find literally everything but collusion.

He's found tax evasion, lying to the FBI, failing to register as a foreign agent - garden variety crimes and yet no collusion.

So I'll continue to mock him.


We don't actually know if he has or has not found anything until the investigation is over.

Well, his investigation leaks like a sieve so I figure if they'd actually found evidence of collusion it would have leaked out by now.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:35 pm

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Corrian wrote:I'm not even sure that had to do with Mueller. It's also not the entire investigation. But I'm used to you seemingly somehow conveniently missing the obvious.

a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III


And yes, I'm seemingly somehow missing the obvious.

Yes, like how the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels may have violated campaign finance laws. But keep plugging your ears singing "LALALA" enough times and you might absolve The Donald of all charges! :^]
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:36 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Kramanica wrote:

And yes, I'm seemingly somehow missing the obvious.

Yes, like how the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels may have violated campaign finance laws. But keep plugging your ears singing "LALALA" enough times and you might absolve The Donald of all charges! :^]

"Might have"

Yes, I'm meant to trust your speculation without evidence that he used campaign money to shut her up.

Move along, Gauth.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:38 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Yes, like how the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels may have violated campaign finance laws. But keep plugging your ears singing "LALALA" enough times and you might absolve The Donald of all charges! :^]

"Might have"

Yes, I'm meant to trust your speculation without evidence that he used campaign money to shut her up.

Move along, Gauth.

You don't need to trust anything. You aren't involved in any way.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:45 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
We don't actually know if he has or has not found anything until the investigation is over.

Well, his investigation leaks like a sieve so I figure if they'd actually found evidence of collusion it would have leaked out by now.


Perhaps. I don't know all the details until it's all over, so I'm not really in a place to comment on it.

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Postby Rio Cana » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:12 pm

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Oh great, how many billions will THIS hair brained scheme cost for absolutely no benefit whatsoever?

Illegal immigrants mostly overstay visas after flying in. What’s the military gonna do? Shoot down any commercial airliner with foreigners who received work visas?


Seems some people in the US just do not get the bigger picture.The billions some want to build a wall, while a waste of money, is not the real problem. The problem is the damage it is doing to US-Mexican relations. All this is working to the Russians advantage. Since last year, Russia has offering Mexico there new Mig-35. There has even been some talk of a joint Mexican-Russian partnership to build the Mig's in Mexico. Already, some Mexican companies have bought Russian civilian airplanes. The company that makes these civilian airplanes also makes the Mig. Should point out that Mexico has tended to buy US built airplanes both civilian and military. Currently, Mexico has some old US F-5's which supposedly they would have replaced with newer but still old F-15's. But with Russia offering a brand new attack airplane and possible tech. transfer and joint partnership to build them why buy used US built military attack airplanes.

Has expected Cuba will be getting these new Russian built Mig's. Aside from Cuba, Peru, Brazil, and Argentina which has been struggling to find someone who would sell them a first class fighter without many strings attached. Could this possibly be Russias way of getting back at the US and NATO for surrounding them. You never know.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:23 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Seangoli wrote:

Dude, he's not investigating it himself. It is his duty to not ignore potentially illegal activity if he comes across it, and he is doing exactly what he is supposed to and passing it off to parties responsible for investigating. If a homicide detective finds evidence of burglary committed by someone related to who they are investigating, do you honestly expect them to say "Well damn, I only deal with homicide. Looks like there is nothing to be done about it".

I'm just saying there's a big lack of collusion in this collusion investigation (and collusion itself isn't even a crime, which makes me further chuckle at the fact that this is a criminal investigation).

And I've yet to see what was illegal about the payment to the porn star.


If he paid a pornstar to keep quiet, and potentially used his lawyer Mr. Cohen as a sort of liaison, it most certainly constitutes bribery.

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Postby Gravlen » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:25 pm

Kramanica wrote:
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Dude, he's not investigating it himself. It is his duty to not ignore potentially illegal activity if he comes across it, and he is doing exactly what he is supposed to and passing it off to parties responsible for investigating. If a homicide detective finds evidence of burglary committed by someone related to who they are investigating, do you honestly expect them to say "Well damn, I only deal with homicide. Looks like there is nothing to be done about it".

I'm just saying there's a big lack of collusion in this collusion investigation (and collusion itself isn't even a crime, which makes me further chuckle at the fact that this is a criminal investigation).

And I've yet to see what was illegal about the payment to the porn star.

Trump attorney Cohen is being investigated for possible bank fraud, campaign finance violations, according to a person familiar with the case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-seizes-records-related-to-stormy-daniels-in-raid-of-trump-attorney-michael-cohens-office/2018/04/09/e3e43cf4-3c30-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.f56c4f382006
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:45 pm

Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:47 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?

She specifically said it wasn't rape.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:49 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?


No, from what I remember (and can gather), Trump had consensual sex with Ms. Daniels. But the reports that he paid her to keep quiet are definitely circling, and given the recent raid, I lean towards believing the claims that she was paid off. Whether or not it's 100% true is up for the courts to decide.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:49 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?

She specifically said it wasn't rape.

Well if she was threatened that sounds rape you to me
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:51 pm

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Kramanica wrote:She specifically said it wasn't rape.

Well if she was threatened that sounds rape you to me

Where did you read that she felt threatened?

And based on her past I have a hard time believing that.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:52 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?

I think her lawyer said that people have been threatening her since she started talking about this.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:53 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well if she was threatened that sounds rape you to me

Where did you read that she felt threatened?

And based on her past I have a hard time believing that.

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Postby Valrifell » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:53 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I'm just saying there's a big lack of collusion in this collusion investigation (and collusion itself isn't even a crime, which makes me further chuckle at the fact that this is a criminal investigation).

And I've yet to see what was illegal about the payment to the porn star.

Trump attorney Cohen is being investigated for possible bank fraud, campaign finance violations, according to a person familiar with the case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-seizes-records-related-to-stormy-daniels-in-raid-of-trump-attorney-michael-cohens-office/2018/04/09/e3e43cf4-3c30-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.f56c4f382006


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Postby Kramanica » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:54 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Where did you read that she felt threatened?

And based on her past I have a hard time believing that.

LInks busted
And I think I read in a paper somewhere
Don’t remember which one

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/247098

Suffer the mobile site then.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?

I think her lawyer said that people have been threatening her since she started talking about this.

I seem to remember reading that she claimed that she had sex with him because she felt threatened
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:55 pm

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Ifreann wrote:I think her lawyer said that people have been threatening her since she started talking about this.

I seem to remember reading that she claimed that she had sex with him because she felt threatened

This may have been an invention of your brain.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:56 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:LInks busted
And I think I read in a paper somewhere
Don’t remember which one

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/247098

Suffer the mobile site then.

So she hit her husband, therefore she can’t be threatened?
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Kramanica wrote:https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/247098

Suffer the mobile site then.

So she hit her husband, therefore she can’t be threatened?

Not really what I meant but okay.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I seem to remember reading that she claimed that she had sex with him because she felt threatened

This may have been an invention of your brain.

Mayberry I misread the article but I remember reading the paper after the 60 minutes interview and something like,”Stormy claimed to have felt threatened by Trump”
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Postby Hittanryan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Also didn’t Stormy say she felt threatened into having sex? Making this rape?

No, she was allegedly threatened in the effort to shut her up.
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