Council of Islamic Cooperation (CIC) (Revived) (Open to all)

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

1) Nations do come back, I think the others should remain listed as "Unconfirmed". 2) I don't think we're seriously considering any of those bills at present, and the Speaker is absent (I think we can afford to wait a bit longer). 3) That sounds eminently sensible.

Incidentally the Ausitorians would be most interested to discuss the effect of desalinization on the biosphere?

[A m e n r i a]

You know, Fahran's got a point there. If we're gonna make an interuniversal governing body, we're gonma have to have some sentient rights to prevent abuse. We need more laws to get this alliance moving along.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

For heaven's sakes! This is not an alliance or interuniversal governing body! It's a diverse multi-faith discussion group, including Jewsish, Christian, and Athiest nations. It's for representing Islam. It's not for forcing everyone here to become Muslim. Not all nations here have any interest in becoming part of some absurd Islamic State. If you go down that path you will loose the non-muslim members here.

Samudera Darussalam, am I not right?

(If not, please accept my resignation. I thought this place was open to non-Muslims).

[Al-Hind Indus]

This place is for everyone

[Fahran]

1) Nations do come back, I think the others should remain listed as "Unconfirmed". 2) I don't think we're seriously considering any of those bills at present, and the Speaker is absent (I think we can afford to wait a bit longer). 3) That sounds eminently sensible.

Incidentally the Ausitorians would be most interested to discuss the effect of desalinization on the biosphere?

1.) Nations that revive and who have a continued interest in the CIC will come back on their own. At the moment, listing nations that have ceased to exist merely exaggerates our membership. At the moment, I'd say we have less than ten active posters in the in-character thread and some of the people who've posted their aren't on NS anymore.

2.) I see. If that's the case, I would recommend doing the sensible thing in-character and sending those bills to a subcommittee that will then allow them to die. It'll preserve the integrity of the thread.

3.) I do my utmost to be sensible.

That might well be a fruitful conversation. My nation isn't likely to favor regulating crude oil extraction or petroleum refinement and shipping though since the petroleum sector is the most important sector of our economy. Environmentalism, while certainly a worthwhile objective, would tank my economy.

[Fahran]

You know, Fahran's got a point there. If we're gonna make an interuniversal governing body, we're gonma have to have some sentient rights to prevent abuse. We need more laws to get this alliance moving along.

As it happens, my character will probably side with Dr. Amreen Javadi in debates on the presently proposed bill, though I don't generally acknowledge supernatural elements or sapient non-humans without editing for my perspective. I generally just pretend like they're normal people (ponies, vampires, etc.), deluded (gods or demons), or something along those lines. Not to say I have anything against fantasy. I quite enjoy it and have written in the genre quite often. This nation is just MT.

[Mabuhay Land]

Member Application

Full Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Mabuhay Land
Head of State: President Nantes Soriano
Money pledged to the CIC annually: 45 billion Mabuhay Landian Peso, roughly $100 billion
Type of Membership desired: Partial Member
Location of branch office (Capital city is preferable): Islamic City of Marawi, Lanao Province, Bangsamoro Autonomous Republic
Other request(s): I would want to have a smaller branch in Alabang Business District, Muntinlupa City, Manila Metropolitan Province, Federal Capital State and in Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu Metropolitan Province, Central Visayas State to cater the needs of the Muslims up north.
Do you permit the International Islamic Universities to operate in your country? Yes, but I would enforce Sharia limitations on non-Muslim students.
Why does your nation want to join the CIC?: 1/5 of the country is Muslim, I want them to be represented to the international stage. I would also like to see this as an oppurtunity to understand Islam, create economic ties and to equalize the power of Christians and Muslims. The affairs regarding this is controlled by National Islamic Cooperation Bureau, Department of Interior and Diplomacy

[Jambekistan]

I'm just gonna post on this forum until somebody lets me in.

[Fahran]

I'm just gonna post on this forum until somebody lets me in.

Did you submit an application?

[Jambekistan]

I'm just gonna post on this forum until somebody lets me in.

Did you submit an application?

yes:

Member Application

Full Nation Name:Republic of Jambekistan
Head of State: Biryar Aran
Money pledged to the CIC annually: 13 billion NSD
Type of Membership desired: Full Membership
Location of branch office (Capital city is preferable): Baku
Other request(s):
Do you permit the International Islamic Universities to operate in your country?:Yes
Why does your nation want to join the CIC?: To support, and be supported by fellow Islamic nations.

[Fahran]

yes

He must have missed you. Don't worry. I'm certain we'll have you added to the roster in no time. /NotACoOP

[Balagan]

@Amenria: Well, I am afraid we won't find common ground here. In your reality he is as you say in our realty he is as the Quran says. No matter what, my favourite colour remains green. As long as we don't go into the details too much in the IC we will have no problems of understanding each other.

@L&A: Thanks for your support. I could not be on NS for a few months but I am glad that I'm still a member of the CIC even though my nation ceased to exist.

I think we should keep the dead and inactive members. The CIC is open to everyone:

The Council of Islamic Cooperation, or also known as CIC, is an international organization created with aim to safeguard and protect the interests of the World Muslim communities in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony. The council is created as a result of a meeting between the Acehian and Mahdistani delegations about a further cooperation between the 2 nations in religious affairs. The CIC lacks central headquarters, but maintain branch offices in the capital of its member nations.
The Council consisted of various nations, not only Muslim-majority nations but also Muslim-minority nations that have interests in Muslim affairs of their countries, or to make further cooperation with the world muslim communities.

Right now we don't even have a real constitution. We are supposed to collaborate on the fields of health, social, culture and education. That is our purpose, or that is what the member states have signed up for. Well at least that is what they should claim to have signed up for. In my opinion the whole idea of 'becoming a governing body' and 'needing more laws' should be done in the IC section as they appear very interesting to me. It is a great way of playing on nation against the other, pulling strings, using leverage and so on. The same way it is done right now when different nations work to push the CIC in their direction.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Member Application

Full Nation Name:Republic of Jambekistan
Head of State: Evet Iravani
Money pledged to the CIC annually: 13 billion NSD
Type of Membership desired: Full Membership
Location of branch office (Capital city is preferable): Baku
Other request(s):
Do you permit the International Islamic Universities to operate in your country?:Yes
Why does your nation want to join the CIC?: To interact with other islamic nations.

Accepted.

[Samudera Darussalam]

This is the last time I'm going to post for a while. I'm going to study for exams soon.
I'll confirm some of the posts:

1. CIC is open to every nations, be it Muslim or not, that are interested to cooperate with each other in various affairs (*Libraria and Ausitoria). So it's much like the OIC in our RL world (where I drew the inspiration from).
2. For the possibility about the CIC is going to be some international governing body, or a federation of some sort, I've no idea about or the intention to make it into one. However, I'm just going to settle and and watch the development.
3. For cte'd members, I'm just going to let them, like Balagan said. RL I'm just too lazy to check which members that had become inactive/cease to exist to be removed , but there's also the hope that they will someday come back.
4. For the cooperation in environmental sector, I'm just going to say that the CIC is probably interested in one, as to help preserve the earth is beneficial for the future of human generations. After all, aren't Muslims are tasked to become the stewards of earth to help manage and preserve the earth itself?

“It is He who has appointed you viceroys in the earth … that He may try you in what He has given you.” (Surah 6:165)

“O children of Adam! … eat and drink: but waste not by excess, for Allah loves not the wasters.” (Surah 7:31)

5. For the other agencies of the CIC, I'll let the members to have another discussions or vote to decided upon.

Edited= sorry, the autocorrect of the handphone is just too amusing to handle.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Member Application

Full Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Mabuhay Land
Head of State: President Nantes Soriano
Money pledged to the CIC annually: 45 billion Mabuhay Landian Peso, roughly $100 billion
Type of Membership desired: Partial Member
Location of branch office (Capital city is preferable): Islamic City of Marawi, Lanao Province, Bangsamoro Autonomous Republic
Other request(s): I would want to have a smaller branch in Alabang Business District, Muntinlupa City, Manila Metropolitan Province, Federal Capital State and in Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu Metropolitan Province, Central Visayas State to cater the needs of the Muslims up north.
Do you permit the International Islamic Universities to operate in your country? Yes, but I would enforce Sharia limitations on non-Muslim students.
Why does your nation want to join the CIC?: 1/5 of the country is Muslim, I want them to be represented to the international stage. I would also like to see this as an oppurtunity to understand Islam, create economic ties and to equalize the power of Christians and Muslims. The affairs regarding this is controlled by National Islamic Cooperation Bureau, Department of Interior and Diplomacy

Accepted.
(The Sharia limitations aren't necessary, but it's up to you though)

[A m e n r i a]

@Amenria: Well, I am afraid we won't find common ground here. In your reality he is as you say in our realty he is as the Quran says. No matter what, my favourite colour remains green. As long as we don't go into the details too much in the IC we will have no problems of understanding each other.

@L&A: Thanks for your support. I could not be on NS for a few months but I am glad that I'm still a member of the CIC even though my nation ceased to exist.

I think we should keep the dead and inactive members. The CIC is open to everyone:

The Council of Islamic Cooperation, or also known as CIC, is an international organization created with aim to safeguard and protect the interests of the World Muslim communities in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony. The council is created as a result of a meeting between the Acehian and Mahdistani delegations about a further cooperation between the 2 nations in religious affairs. The CIC lacks central headquarters, but maintain branch offices in the capital of its member nations.
The Council consisted of various nations, not only Muslim-majority nations but also Muslim-minority nations that have interests in Muslim affairs of their countries, or to make further cooperation with the world muslim communities.

Right now we don't even have a real constitution. We are supposed to collaborate on the fields of health, social, culture and education. That is our purpose, or that is what the member states have signed up for. Well at least that is what they should claim to have signed up for. In my opinion the whole idea of 'becoming a governing body' and 'needing more laws' should be done in the IC section as they appear very interesting to me. It is a great way of playing on nation against the other, pulling strings, using leverage and so on. The same way it is done right now when different nations work to push the CIC in their direction.

Exactly. We need a constitution. Anyone wanna write one?

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I'd be happy too, based on the principles above. I must have written a dozen constitutions and charters by now...

Samudera Darussalam - thanks for the clarification. And good luck with revision!

Amenria - sending technology back from 2040 would break a few of the fundamental rules of the RL universe. In Nationstates it would probably fracture or warp the fabric of reality (although some might argue that sort of thing is fairly common around here).

[A m e n r i a]

I'd be happy too, based on the principles above. I must have written a dozen constitutions and charters by now...

Samudera Darussalam - thanks for the clarification. And good luck with revision!

Amenria - sending technology back from 2040 would break a few of the fundamental rules of the RL universe. In Nationstates it would probably fracture or warp the fabric of reality (although some might argue that sort of thing is fairly common around here).

Naw, man, you wanna fracture the fabric of reality? Get a teenage you, a child you, and a really old you. Get 'em all to touch each other. That'll break reality for sure.

[Nusalia]

Member Application

Full Nation Name: Republic of Nusalia
Head of State: President Kasman Wikarsa
Money pledged to the CIC annually: NS$ 25,000,000
Type of Membership desired: Full Member
Location of branch office (Capital city is preferable): Aikarta
Other request(s):
Do you permit the International Islamic Universities to operate in your country? yes
Why does your nation want to join the CIC?: because 75℅ Nusalian is muslim

[Fahran]

In my opinion the whole idea of 'becoming a governing body' and 'needing more laws' should be done in the IC section as they appear very interesting to me. It is a great way of playing on nation against the other, pulling strings, using leverage and so on. The same way it is done right now when different nations work to push the CIC in their direction.

I wholly concur. At the moment, I'm preoccupied with real life and a couple of other role-plays, but, when I do post, this would definitely be a tantalizing possibility. That being said, it's perhaps more compelling to write it as a gradual realization on the part of individual representatives and delegates. Al-Sistani for instance would simply propose rules to ensure that we can function adequately as a legislative body. He'd then oppose practically every resolution that has been proposed because they appear to hinder or ignore the CIC's wider mission.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Y'all misunderstood Amenria a lot. Someone being from a different dimension or a different planet is a totally different thing for being a bad jinn.

[Fahran]

Y'all misunderstood Amenria a lot. Someone being from a different dimension or a different planet is a totally different thing for being a bad jinn.

The principal issue is that some of the things his character has said clash strongly with conventional understandings of the Quran and hadiths. Some of the in-character reactions have been attempts to reconcile what is essentially FT/FanT characterization within an MT setting.

Also, Kutumba Tribe!

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Y'all misunderstood Amenria a lot. Someone being from a different dimension or a different planet is a totally different thing for being a bad jinn.

The principal issue is that some of the things his character has said clash strongly with conventional understandings of the Quran and hadiths. Some of the in-character reactions have been attempts to reconcile what is essentially FT/FanT characterization within an MT setting.

Also, Kutumba Tribe!

Hey Fahran
Imo, you can reconcile dimensions and extraterrestrial life with Al-Islam.
Also, I guess there shoulda been a setting for this organization. If there isn't, there should be so there aren't any squabbles like these.

[A m e n r i a]

Y'all misunderstood Amenria a lot. Someone being from a different dimension or a different planet is a totally different thing for being a bad jinn.

The principal issue is that some of the things his character has said clash strongly with conventional understandings of the Quran and hadiths. Some of the in-character reactions have been attempts to reconcile what is essentially FT/FanT characterization within an MT setting.

Also, Kutumba Tribe!

Eeeeeewww MT, it's so full of the "r" word!

Anyways...you want..sum PMT science?

[Fahran]

The principal issue is that some of the things his character has said clash strongly with conventional understandings of the Quran and hadiths. Some of the in-character reactions have been attempts to reconcile what is essentially FT/FanT characterization within an MT setting.

Also, Kutumba Tribe!

Eeeeeewww MT, it's so full of the "r" word!

Anyways...you want..sum PMT science?

Realism.

shudders