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Are you picking up the new Shadowspear set?

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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:14 pm

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Postby Tethys 13 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:21 am

I've just finished the Ork army I've been building since the start of the year, so I thought I'd share it:

Waaagh! Ugerekka

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HQ:
Gitclaw (Warboss) 75pts
Attack Squig, Big Choppa, Power Klaw

Elites:
Gitflag - Nob with Waaagh! Banner 79pts
Kustom Shoota

Troops:

19 Boyz + Nob 133pts
Power Klaw

14 Gretchin

Heavy Support:

10 Lootas 170pts


Games played:
vs Adeptus Mechanicus, Objectives, victory (enemy wiped out)
vs Deathwatch, Kill Points, victory (enemy wiped out)




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HQ:
Gitclaw (Warboss) 75pts
Attack Squig, Big Choppa, Power Klaw

Elites:
Gitflag - Nob with Waaagh! Banner 79pts
Kustom Shoota

Troops:
25 Boyz + Nob 169pts
Power Klaw

19 Boyz + Nob 133pts
Power Klaw

20 Gretchin 60pts

Heavy Support:
Battlewagon 180pts
Deff Rolla

10 Lootas 170pts

Flyers:
Blitza-Bomma 134pts


Games played:
vs Death Guard, Kill Points, Victory (enemy wiped out)
vs Primaris Space Marines, Objectives, Victory (Somehow)





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Heavy Support:
Warlord Ugerekka (Deff Dread) 151pts
3 Dread Klaws, Skorcha

Battlewagon 180pts
Deff Rolla

10 Lootas 170pts

3 Killa Kans 189pts
Rokkit Launchas

HQ:
Gitclaw (Warboss) 75pts
Attack Squig, Big Choppa, Power Klaw

Gitmek - Big Mek 84pts
Kustom Force Field, Kustom Mega-Blasta

Elites:
Gitflag - Nob with Waaagh! Banner 79pts
Kustom Shoota

Gitdrum - Nob with Waaagh! Banner 79pts
Kustom Shoota

Troops:
24 Boyz + Nob 169pts
Power Klaw

19 Boyz + Nob 133pts
Power Klaw

20 Gretchin 60pts

Flyers:
Blitza-Bomma 134pts



Games played:
vs Alpha Legion, Objectives, unfinished (enemy almost wiped out by end of turn 2, then the player left)
vs mixed Inquisition/Ministorum/Guard/Blood Angels, Kill Points, victory







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Spearhead Detachment
Heavy Support:
Warlord Ugerekka (Deff Dread) 151pts
3 Dread Klaws, Skorcha

Battlewagon 180pts
Deff Rolla

10 Lootas 170pts

10 Lootas 170pts

5 Killa Kans 189pts
Rokkit Launchas

Squiggoth 165pts

HQ:
Gitclaw (Warboss) 75pts
Attack Squig, Big Choppa, Power Klaw

Gitmek - Big Mek 84pts
Kustom Force Field, Kustom Mega-Blasta

Elites:
Gitflag - Nob with Waaagh! Banner 79pts
Kustom Shoota

Gitdrum - Nob with Waaagh! Banner 79pts
Kustom Shoota

Troops:
24 Boyz + Nob 169pts
Power Klaw

19 Boyz + Nob 133pts
Power Klaw

20 Gretchin 60pts

Flyers:
Blitza-Bomma 134pts
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:58 am

Ooh, nice Squiggoth.

Solid job beating Primaris. Which Chapter?
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:16 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Ooh, nice Squiggoth.

Solid job beating Primaris. Which Chapter?


They were using White Scars rules. Their army was:
Captain in Gravis armour
10 Primaris
10 Primaris with Stalker Boltrifles
6 Aggressors with Boltstorm
6 Aggressors with Flamestorm (they wiped out one of my Boy mobs in overwatch entirely, then my Warboss charged in, took a few wounds from overwatch but was out of range of most of the unit, killed half the unit and then died to the power fists. Then they annihilated my other Boy Mob in their shooting phase, lost one to my Grots shooting at them from the back of my Battlewagon, flamed my Waaagh! Banner down to 1 wound then charged him... and he killed one in overwatch and the other in combat. I was damn lucky)

I ended the game with a Waaagh! Banner on 1 wound, 11 Gretchin, 3 Lootas and a Blitza-Bomma on half wounds with no more bombs. He still had an intact unit of Primaris and one left from the Stalker unit, but they were both so far back that I got all the objectives (my Gretchin were cowering around one and my Lootas holding another)
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:17 pm

Sweet Deff Dread.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:22 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Sweet Deff Dread.


None of the Boyz have realised it, but inside is just a Gretchin with a voice modulator. Whenever the Deff Dread gets destroyed, he's teleported back to the workshop by the mini Shokk Attack Gun on the top of the walker, where he can get into a new one and try again. :D

He also takes the titles of those he defeats in battle, so he is Warlord Ugerekka, Da Great Destroya, Da Immortul, Captain of the Fulminators 5th Company, Alpharius, Brother-Librarian-Dreadnought.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:50 pm

Tethys 13 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Sweet Deff Dread.


None of the Boyz have realised it, but inside is just a Gretchin with a voice modulator. Whenever the Deff Dread gets destroyed, he's teleported back to the workshop by the mini Shokk Attack Gun on the top of the walker, where he can get into a new one and try again. :D

He also takes the titles of those he defeats in battle, so he is Warlord Ugerekka, Da Great Destroya, Da Immortul, Captain of the Fulminators 5th Company, Alpharius, Brother-Librarian-Dreadnought.

yes, yes to all of those titles
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Postby Jetan » Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:51 am

Tethys 13 wrote:He also takes the titles of those he defeats in battle, so he is Warlord Ugerekka, Da Great Destroya, Da Immortul, Captain of the Fulminators 5th Company, Alpharius, Brother-Librarian-Dreadnought.

Nice. Personal defeats only or army victories aswell?
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:13 am

Jetan wrote:
Tethys 13 wrote:He also takes the titles of those he defeats in battle, so he is Warlord Ugerekka, Da Great Destroya, Da Immortul, Captain of the Fulminators 5th Company, Alpharius, Brother-Librarian-Dreadnought.

Nice. Personal defeats only or army victories aswell?


Haven't settled on it yet, but maybe if he doesn't get any personal victories he decides to take the army victory one instead. I've been writing short stories for all of the battles (a friend suggested I should) so I'll see in that - for example, Ugerekka took the title from the Primaris Captain despite the fact I didn't even use him in that battle, because in the story I wrote he showed up at the end to finish off the already dying captain (I had to come up with a reason why the Primaris retreated and "lost" despite having a significant advantage in models when the game ended)
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Postby Tethys 13 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:31 pm

I've started planning my next army, a Necron dynasty called the Nekhet who are honourable warriors whose interpretation of the Silent King's orders to get new biological bodies for the Necrons is to protect biological creatures, so they'll randomly show up to save people (usually Tau, Eldar or humans, since they're not particularly interested in becoming Orks or 'Nids). I was thinking of going with silver and yellow as the main colours (yellow crests and shoulders) but haven't decided yet. Here's the list I'm planning at the moment:

2000pts Vanguard Detachment
Dynasty: Custom
Dynastic Code: Awakened By Murder
Dynastic Heirlooms: 1 Extra Artefact

HQ:
Thutikh - Overlord 130pts
Warscythe (Artefact: Voidreaper), Resurrection Orb, Warlord.
Warlord trait: Honourable Combatant

Azuph - Lord 119pts
Warscythe, Resurrection Orb, Artefact: Sempiternal Weave

Elites:
5x Lychguard 170pts
Hyperphase Swords and Dispersion Shields

10x Lychguard 340pts
Hyperphase Swords and Dispersion Shields

10x Lychguard 300pts
Warscythes

10x Lychguard 300pts
Warscythes

10x Triarch Praetorians 320pts
Voidblades and Particle Casters

10x Triarch Praetorians 320pts
Rods of Covenant


Maybe crazy and certainly not meta, but should be fun. Money's very tight though, so I won't be starting it for a few months at least. Fortunately, it'll cost less than half what my Orks did, only around £250 for the full 200pts.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:32 pm

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:35 pm

:lol:


Also given how

Alpharius got chainsworded something fierce by Dorn at pluto


Its a good fit.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
:lol:


Also given how

Alpharius got chainsworded something fierce by Dorn at pluto


Its a good fit.


I love the helmet, and of course it lets you pull a Trazyn and go "nope, that wasn't actually him, he's actually over here in this random squad"
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:38 am

some fanart is truly awesome. the feel.

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"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:49 am

Socialist Czechia wrote:some fanart is truly awesome. the feel.


"How will this flower assist me in dying for the emperor?"
"Well... it wont.. its a flo-
"Go away"
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Postby Tethys 13 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:17 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Socialist Czechia wrote:some fanart is truly awesome. the feel.


"How will this flower assist me in dying for the emperor?"
"Well... it wont.. its a flo-
"Go away"


"Flowers are often offered to graves-"
*The Death Korps start fighting over it*
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:52 am

Tethys 13 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:"How will this flower assist me in dying for the emperor?"
"Well... it wont.. its a flo-
"Go away"

"Flowers are often offered to graves-"
*The Death Korps start fighting over it*

At least she didn't offer him a Pepsi.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:56 am

"Im sorry miss, this is a coca cola planet, there will be partaking of pepsi beverages on this coca cola planet"
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:59 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:"Im sorry miss, this is a coca cola planet, there will be partaking of pepsi beverages on this coca cola planet"

And then the riots started. Later it turned out that the corruption of Chaos was ominously present, so measures were taken. After all was said, done and purged, the Inquisitors all enjoyed a nice, cold Dr. Pepper.


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Postby Socialist Czechia » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:39 am

That's why I so love Gaun't Ghosts series, too. It's good to read about Primarchs and the Big E, but reading about common human lives in the Imperium is much more interesting to me.

These and other books are also largely redeeming Inquisitors, as it clearly shows how nasty work it is. Sure, you're technically the most free of the Humans, you visit and see even more than average Space Marine: but you see corruption of Chaos even on the most beautiful and 'safe' planets, on which 99,999+% of population has no idea, for example, about Slaneesh cult in multiple hives, planning demon infestation.
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Postby North Curbstompia » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:44 am

IG 4 Life
I just wish 40k wasn't so overpriced or that GW wasn't so retarded. 8th edition a shit for dumbing things down and making some units suck. I especially won't forgive GW for nerfing the deathstrike.

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Postby Tethys 13 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:19 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:That's why I so love Gaun't Ghosts series, too. It's good to read about Primarchs and the Big E, but reading about common human lives in the Imperium is much more interesting to me.

These and other books are also largely redeeming Inquisitors, as it clearly shows how nasty work it is. Sure, you're technically the most free of the Humans, you visit and see even more than average Space Marine: but you see corruption of Chaos even on the most beautiful and 'safe' planets, on which 99,999+% of population has no idea, for example, about Slaneesh cult in multiple hives, planning demon infestation.


Have you read the Shira Calpurnia books? They're great and they're getting rereleased soon.

North Curbstompia wrote:IG 4 Life
I just wish 40k wasn't so overpriced or that GW wasn't so retarded. 8th edition a shit for dumbing things down and making some units suck. I especially won't forgive GW for nerfing the deathstrike.


I've found games more fun with 8th than with the preceding 5 editions personally. Haven't yet used my Guard in 8th though, so I've yet to try out my Deathstrike, but I love the fact that my Vostroyan Armoured Regiment gets 6" extra range to all their rapid fire and heavy weapons (especially good for my Hellhounds and Demolishers)
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:44 pm

Tethys 13 wrote:
Have you read the Shira Calpurnia books? They're great and they're getting rereleased soon.


I have them already, same as the series about Big E as I mentioned.
Still, Ghosts and Eisenhorn remain my favourites.

Because Abnett is damn awesome writer.
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta

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Postby Tethys 13 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:56 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:
Tethys 13 wrote:
Have you read the Shira Calpurnia books? They're great and they're getting rereleased soon.


I have them already, same as the series about Big E as I mentioned.
Still, Ghosts and Eisenhorn remain my favourites.

Because Abnett is damn awesome writer.


Agreed :)
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