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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
273
34%
Eastern Orthodox
67
8%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
53
7%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
95
12%
Methodist
29
4%
Baptist
89
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
52
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
18
2%
Other Christian
113
14%
 
Total votes : 795

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:29 am

Salus Maior wrote:
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Technically if you’re a baptized and confirmed Catholic you need a dispensation from a bishop to routinely attend Protestant worship


Why would dispensation ever be given for that?


I dunno if it would, but they would need it
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:30 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Why would dispensation ever be given for that?


I dunno if it would, but they would need it


Only reason I could think of is if they lived in an isolated area and the only reasonably accessable church nearby was Protestant, maybe.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:33 am

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I know he created billions of planets when I say he only created one world I mean he has only created one world with mortal life on it. Unless you count Heaven then he created two worlds.



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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:44 am

Tarsonis wrote:When did I ever call myself an anti-christ?


Quoted from here.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:52 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:When did I ever call myself an anti-christ?


Quoted from here.


That’s not me saying I’m anti-christ, that you not understanding the point.

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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:53 am

Salus Maior wrote:....Tars isn't socially engineering anything, nor is Arch.(1)

And he's right in saying not to engage the edgelord atheist. The whole point of his display is to trigger Christians, attacking him on it is what he wants.(2)


(1) Or so you say.

(2)... and refute we must. There's a bible quote about rebuking errors and a secular quote about how evil grows when good men do nothing etc etc so whichever the case...

(3) wait, are you Christian? Should I be engaging you in dialectic, considering your advice and your flag? Irony.
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:02 am

Tarsonis wrote:That’s not me saying I’m anti-christ, that you not understanding the point. (1)

Did Jesus sin?(2)


(1) No, I understand very well. You slipped big time and now to continue justifying your presense in CDT you are hoping to catch me on doctrinal deficiencies. No baptized Christian guided by the Holy Spirit will make the blasphemous statement you did.

(2) Jesus Christ was born without sin but He took the sins of the entire world upon Himself to atone for us.

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:17 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:That’s not me saying I’m anti-christ, that you not understanding the point. (1)

Did Jesus sin?(2)


(1) No, I understand very well. You slipped big time and now to continue justifying your presense in CDT you are hoping to catch me on doctrinal deficiencies. No baptized Christian guided by the Holy Spirit will make the blasphemous statement you did.

(2) Jesus Christ was born without sin but He took the sins of the entire world upon Himself to atone for us.

Everything you need to know about the Messiah.

1. I’ve been in the CDT longer than you’ve been on NS. I’m OP of the thread genius.
2. I don’t know what you meant by slipped. It’s not blasphemous if it’s not genuine, especially since everyone here was capable of understanding what I said....except you.

3. But that’s not what the Verse you quoted said. It said all have sinned. Either A. Christ committed sin, or B. That verse isn’t absolute.



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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:55 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:what's your point?


Geneviev wrote: :clap:


Go figure. (Or ask your priest, if you know one.)

Big Jim P wrote:No different from you parading around an openly acknowledged christian symbol as you flag etc etc etc. :roll:


Tarsonis wrote:Considering your flag is really a devils trap, you’re doing us a service.


A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas the middle east (edited) by any chance? Just curious.

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:05 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:


Go figure. (Or ask your priest, if you know one.)





A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas the middle east (edited) by any chance? Just curious.

"I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not."
(Jude 1:5, KJV)
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"It's not responsibility to educate you"

mate are you a christian sjw?


Worse. I go to Yale with christian SJW’s. They’re actually engable.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:06 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:"It's not responsibility to educate you"

mate are you a christian sjw?


Worse. I go to Yale with christian SJW’s. They’re actually engable.

I meant in methods rather than values. Though that is interesting.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:18 am

Albrenia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:So, what interest do you have in the Christian Discussion Thread?


I believe they popped by to applaud a particularly funny bit of Blasphemy by Blaat, and then were drawn into a conversation about blasphemy and mocking God.

EDIT - Ninja'd by the man himself.


Ahem.

The correct term here is Blaatsphemy.
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:25 am

Bakery Hill wrote:"It's not responsibility to educate you"

mate are you a christian sjw?


It really isn't. I am not trained in catechism, so I only share what I know, that I am confident of, with those who seem genuinely interested.

Tarsonis wrote:[ ... ]
You really need to knock off your postering and engage in actual discussion


Yes you are very invested in this social engineering account of yours. Lol, go read a book. (If you've read it already, read it again - it's a big book.)

Edit: social engineering defense: edited in 2nd link
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:30 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
I believe they popped by to applaud a particularly funny bit of Blasphemy by Blaat, and then were drawn into a conversation about blasphemy and mocking God.

EDIT - Ninja'd by the man himself.


Ahem.

The correct term here is Blaatsphemy.


Damnit, you made me laugh -again-. Stop making me laugh out loud when I'm sitting in a room alone. :p

On the topic at hand, what do you mean Temple when you say 'social engineering'? Usually I hear that term to apply more to organisations than individuals.

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:32 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:"It's not responsibility to educate you"

mate are you a christian sjw?


It really isn't. I am not trained in catechism, so I only share what I know, that I am confident of, with those who seem genuinely interested.

Tarsonis wrote:[ ... ]
You really need to knock off your postering and engage in actual discussion


Yes you are very invested in this social engineering account of yours. Lol, go read a book. (If you've read it already, read it again - it's a big book.)

Edit: social engineering defense: edited in 2nd link


What on earth are you even talking about?
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:41 am

Albrenia wrote:... On the topic at hand, what do you mean Temple[dom] when you say 'social engineering'? Usually I hear that term to apply more to organisations than individuals.

It is the insidious nature of such tactics to always carry the shield of plausible deniability. Same with micro-aggression tactics commonplace online AND offline. So I won't delve into details. Suffice to say that once you've known one you've known them all.

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:43 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Albrenia wrote:... On the topic at hand, what do you mean Temple[dom] when you say 'social engineering'? Usually I hear that term to apply more to organisations than individuals.

It is the insidious nature of such tactics to always carry the shield of plausible deniability. Same with micro-aggression tactics commonplace online AND offline. So I won't delve into details. Suffice to say that once you've known one you've known them all.

"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear." (Mark 4:23, KJV)


So in otherwords is something you made up to avoid responding to challenges and criticisms.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:44 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Albrenia wrote:... On the topic at hand, what do you mean Temple[dom] when you say 'social engineering'? Usually I hear that term to apply more to organisations than individuals.

It is the insidious nature of such tactics to always carry the shield of plausible deniability. Same with micro-aggression tactics commonplace online AND offline. So I won't delve into details. Suffice to say that once you've known one you've known them all.

"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear." (Mark 4:23, KJV)


Ah, ok. Thanks. :)

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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:47 am

Psst... another favourite tactic of these "social engineers" is making the pages fly
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:05 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas the middle east (edited) by any chance? Just curious.

I initially thought I would let this go as a provocative but valid theological viewpoint, but given your insistence that Tarsonis is a "self-professed antichrist" when they have clearly admitted to no such thing, and the baity nature of the rest of the comment, The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom: *** warned for flamebait. ***
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:07 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas the middle east (edited) by any chance? Just curious.

I initially thought I would let this go as a provocative but valid theological viewpoint, but given your insistence that Tarsonis is a "self-professed antichrist" when they have clearly admitted to no such thing, and the baity nature of the rest of the comment, The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom: *** warned for flamebait. ***


Badge of honour. For how long does this warning remain valid?

Edit: just dawned on me what a flimsy reason that was.

Truther: are you a liar?
Liar: of course not

Wow!
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:37 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:"It's not responsibility to educate you"

mate are you a christian sjw?


It really isn't. I am not trained in catechism, so I only share what I know, that I am confident of, with those who seem genuinely interested.

Tarsonis wrote:[ ... ]
You really need to knock off your postering and engage in actual discussion


Yes you are very invested in this social engineering account of yours. Lol, go read a book. (If you've read it already, read it again - it's a big book.)

Edit: social engineering defense: edited in 2nd link

So you're either being ignorant or acting conceited here. Fair enough.
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I mean how do you expect someone to engage with your religion if this is how you behave? Thankfully there are more Christlike Christians in this thread.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:18 am

Bakery Hill wrote:I mean how do you expect someone to engage with your religion if this is how you behave? Thankfully there are more Christlike Christians in this thread.

I would like to think this is bait to blowback all of those except those who would listen for the hell of it only to fall into a trap.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:22 am

Benuty wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I mean how do you expect someone to engage with your religion if this is how you behave? Thankfully there are more Christlike Christians in this thread.

I would like to think this is bait to blowback all of those except those who would listen for the hell of it only to fall into a trap.

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