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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
273
34%
Eastern Orthodox
67
8%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
53
7%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
95
12%
Methodist
29
4%
Baptist
89
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
52
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
18
2%
Other Christian
113
14%
 
Total votes : 795

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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:47 pm

-Svenska Riket- wrote:I may be getting this wrong but in the Book of Job it says God was at meeting with a council from different worlds.

Does this mean God has other worlds that haven't fallen to sin?

Sounds Mormon tbh
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Postby New Emeline » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:47 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:The poster parading around a widelly-acknowledged satanic symbol as his "flag" and sprouting atheistic views denying the existence of God is a problem.

Guess I'll have to add yet another link to my sig sometime, just for occassions like this.

Why is it a problem? God is all powerful isn't he?

Not here. Nationstates is a godless, lawless realm.

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Postby -Svenska Riket- » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:48 pm

Albrenia wrote:
-Svenska Riket- wrote:I may be getting this wrong but in the Book of Job it says God was at meeting with a council from different worlds.

Does this mean God has other worlds that haven't fallen to sin?


Wait what? I've never heard of that particular part. Sounds awesome though.


I'm not sure if it's "True" though but I swear reading a paragraph talking about how God has a council each council member from different words. But like I said I may have read it wrong
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:49 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:The poster parading around a widelly-acknowledged satanic symbol as his "flag" and sprouting atheistic views denying the existence of God is a problem.

Guess I'll have to add yet another link to my sig sometime, just for occassions like this.

Why is it a problem? God is all powerful isn't he?

Yes, He is. I guess the problem is the fact that He may be offended by some human who is not all powerful. Maybe He is like me that way. :roll:
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Postby -Nationalist America- » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:55 pm

-Svenska Riket- wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Wait what? I've never heard of that particular part. Sounds awesome though.


I'm not sure if it's "True" though but I swear reading a paragraph talking about how God has a council each council member from different words. But like I said I may have read it wrong


I'm pretty sure the Book of Job isn't apart of the Bible since you know it is its own book besides the Bible only mentions that God only created one world which is Earth.
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Postby New Emeline » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:57 pm

-Nationalist America- wrote:
-Svenska Riket- wrote:
I'm not sure if it's "True" though but I swear reading a paragraph talking about how God has a council each council member from different words. But like I said I may have read it wrong


I'm pretty sure the Book of Job isn't apart of the Bible since you know it is its own book besides the Bible only mentions that God only created one world which is Earth.

He would have to have created a lot of worlds though. There's billions of planets. Maybe just didn't put people on them.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:58 pm

-Nationalist America- wrote:
-Svenska Riket- wrote:
I'm not sure if it's "True" though but I swear reading a paragraph talking about how God has a council each council member from different words. But like I said I may have read it wrong


I'm pretty sure the Book of Job isn't apart of the Bible since you know it is its own book besides the Bible only mentions that God only created one world which is Earth.

The book of Job is part of the Bible, on the same level as Song of Songs.
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Postby -Nationalist America- » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:03 pm

New Emeline wrote:
-Nationalist America- wrote:
I'm pretty sure the Book of Job isn't apart of the Bible since you know it is its own book besides the Bible only mentions that God only created one world which is Earth.

He would have to have created a lot of worlds though. There's billions of planets. Maybe just didn't put people on them.


I know he created billions of planets when I say he only created one world I mean he has only created one world with mortal life on it. Unless you count Heaven then he created two worlds.

Geneviev wrote:
-Nationalist America- wrote:
I'm pretty sure the Book of Job isn't apart of the Bible since you know it is its own book besides the Bible only mentions that God only created one world which is Earth.

The book of Job is part of the Bible, on the same level as Song of Songs.


Ah okay thanks for correcting me
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:06 pm

-Nationalist America- wrote:
New Emeline wrote:He would have to have created a lot of worlds though. There's billions of planets. Maybe just didn't put people on them.


I know he created billions of planets when I say he only created one world I mean he has only created one world with mortal life on it. Unless you count Heaven then he created two worlds.

Geneviev wrote:The book of Job is part of the Bible, on the same level as Song of Songs.


Ah okay thanks for correcting me

It was my pleasure.
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:16 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:Why is it a problem? God is all powerful isn't he?


"21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"
(John 21:21–23)

New Emeline wrote:Not here. Nationstates is a godless, lawless realm.


"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
(Gen 1:1)

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Postby New Emeline » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:19 pm

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Why is it a problem? God is all powerful isn't he?


"21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"
(John 21:21–23)

New Emeline wrote:Not here. Nationstates is a godless, lawless realm.


"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
(Gen 1:1)

[KJV]

I was making a joke about Nationstates...

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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:24 pm

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Why is it a problem? God is all powerful isn't he?


"21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"
(John 21:21–23)

New Emeline wrote:Not here. Nationstates is a godless, lawless realm.


"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
(Gen 1:1)

[KJV]

what's your point?
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Postby New Emeline » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:27 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
"21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"
(John 21:21–23)



"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
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what's your point?

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Postby Geneviev » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:27 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:what's your point?

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:clap:
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:02 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Why would that be a problem anyway?

The poster parading around a widelly-acknowledged satanic symbol as his "flag" and sprouting atheistic views denying the existence of God is a problem.

Guess I'll have to add yet another link to my sig sometime, just for occassions like this.



No different from you parading around an openly acknowledged christian symbol as you flag etc etc etc. :roll:
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:09 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Why is it a problem? God is all powerful isn't he?


"21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"
(John 21:21–23)

New Emeline wrote:Not here. Nationstates is a godless, lawless realm.


"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
(Gen 1:1)

[KJV]



It’s still not a problem
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:18 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:The poster parading around a widelly-acknowledged satanic symbol as his "flag" and sprouting atheistic views denying the existence of God is a problem.

Guess I'll have to add yet another link to my sig sometime, just for occassions like this.



No different from you parading around an openly acknowledged christian symbol as you flag etc etc etc. :roll:


Considering your flag is really a devils trap, you’re doing us a service.
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:51 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Geneviev wrote:They are not really. I attend a Lutheran church every Sunday, and I follow Catholic traditions, and my beliefs are between. I was raised into both groups.


Technically if you’re a baptized and confirmed Catholic you need a dispensation from a bishop to routinely attend Protestant worship


Why would dispensation ever be given for that?
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:01 am

Bakery Hill wrote:what's your point?


Geneviev wrote: :clap:


Go figure. (Or ask your priest, if you know one.)

Big Jim P wrote:No different from you parading around an openly acknowledged christian symbol as you flag etc etc etc. :roll:


Tarsonis wrote:Considering your flag is really a devils trap, you’re doing us a service.


A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas the middle east (edited) by any chance? Just curious.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:03 am

Geneviev wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
It would have to be on other matters. That’s pretty much Catholic doctine ver batum

So I've been told.

Edit: Why does it matter so much if I'm Catholic or Lutheran? I thought maybe a Christian thread would actually understand more than my Satanist mates, rather than less.


Because you can't mix and match Churches as you feel like it. Because that leads to inconsistencies in doctrine, for one which is problematic in and of itself, nevermind the real issue that is the 'One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church" as stated in the Nicene Creed; That there is only one physical Church truly guided by the Holy Spirit, that was founded by Jesus Christ and imbued with the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, which guides and protects true doctrine.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:04 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:what's your point?


Geneviev wrote: :clap:


Go figure. (Or ask your priest, if you know one.)

Big Jim P wrote:No different from you parading around an openly acknowledged christian symbol as you flag etc etc etc. :roll:


Tarsonis wrote:Considering your flag is really a devils trap, you’re doing us a service.


A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas by any chance? Just curious.

"I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not."
(Jude 1:5, KJV)
Epistle of Jude


Can you speak straightforwardly as opposed to dancing around with random verses? Just say what you mean.
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Postby The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:16 am

Salus Maior wrote:Can you speak straightforwardly as opposed to dancing around with random verses? Just say what you mean.

Sure. Their social engineering efforts are a waste of time.

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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:21 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:what's your point?


Geneviev wrote: :clap:


Go figure. (Or ask your priest, if you know one.)

Big Jim P wrote:No different from you parading around an openly acknowledged christian symbol as you flag etc etc etc. :roll:


Tarsonis wrote:Considering your flag is really a devils trap, you’re doing us a service.


A satanist and an antichrist (both self-professed) have joined arms, who'd have thunk? Do both of you, like Archregimancy, also work in oil & gas the middle east (edited) by any chance? Just curious.

"I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not."
(Jude 1:5, KJV)
Epistle of Jude


When did I ever call myself an anti-christ?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:22 am

The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Can you speak straightforwardly as opposed to dancing around with random verses? Just say what you mean.

Sure. Their social engineering efforts are a waste of time.

"To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord God."
(Ezekiel 13:16, KJV)


....Tars isn't socially engineering anything, nor is Arch.

And he's right in saying not to engage the edgelord atheist. The whole point of his display is to trigger Christians, attacking him on it is what he wants.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:29 am

-Svenska Riket- wrote:I may be getting this wrong but in the Book of Job it says God was at meeting with a council from different worlds.

Does this mean God has other worlds that haven't fallen to sin?


No?

He was talking with Satan, however. Which is a fun thought.

God and Satan talk about you.
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