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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:32 am

Torrocca wrote:I hate countries.


You and me both.
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Postby Olivaero » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:37 am

Liriena wrote:This is beautiful. :3


Oh Charlie "pretend to be an adult baby to own the libs" Kirk, I'm sure each one of those folks taught him to be so effective at owning the libs.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:51 am

Liriena wrote:This is beautiful. :3


Humanity was a mistake
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:51 am

Liriena wrote:This is beautiful. :3



>Charlie Kirk
>beautiful

This is why we're reinstating the gulags comrade Liri >:^(
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Postby Aellex » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:54 am

Torrocca wrote:
Liriena wrote:This is beautiful. :3



>Charlie Kirk
>beautiful

This is why we're reinstating the gulags comrade Liri >:^(

Who's that guy and are the people he mentioned famous? I think I recognised only one name and I'm not even sure where I heard it.
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:57 am

Aellex wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Charlie Kirk
>beautiful

This is why we're reinstating the gulags comrade Liri >:^(

Who's that guy and are the people he mentioned famous? I think I recognised only one name and I'm not even sure where I heard it.


Oh thank fuck, you're a lucky one. They're memes, don't look further than that.
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Postby New Emeline » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Aellex wrote:Who's that guy and are the people he mentioned famous? I think I recognised only one name and I'm not even sure where I heard it.


Oh thank fuck, you're a lucky one. They're memes, don't look further than that.

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:52 pm

Aellex wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Charlie Kirk
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This is why we're reinstating the gulags comrade Liri >:^(

Who's that guy and are the people he mentioned famous? I think I recognised only one name and I'm not even sure where I heard it.

They're famous on political YouTube circles, if that counts. Ben Shapiro is a holier-than-thou Young ConservativeTM who thinks ancient political talking points are relevant and good arguments, Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychologist who's weirdly obsessed with IQ, and PragerU is just a bunch of Ben Shapiro clones.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:16 pm

Grenartia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Yup


The fact that you evaded evaluation as Canadian for so long only backs up my point.

What
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Postby Olivaero » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:12 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Aellex wrote:Who's that guy and are the people he mentioned famous? I think I recognised only one name and I'm not even sure where I heard it.

They're famous on political YouTube circles, if that counts. Ben Shapiro is a holier-than-thou Young ConservativeTM who thinks ancient political talking points are relevant and good arguments, Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychologist who's weirdly obsessed with IQ, and PragerU is just a bunch of Ben Shapiro clones.

You missed the best part about Jordan Peterson, his lobster fetishism
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:18 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:They're famous on political YouTube circles, if that counts. Ben Shapiro is a holier-than-thou Young ConservativeTM who thinks ancient political talking points are relevant and good arguments, Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychologist who's weirdly obsessed with IQ, and PragerU is just a bunch of Ben Shapiro clones.

You missed the best part about Jordan Peterson, his lobster fetishism


Lobster... fetishism... :unsure:
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:44 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:They're famous on political YouTube circles, if that counts. Ben Shapiro is a holier-than-thou Young ConservativeTM who thinks ancient political talking points are relevant and good arguments, Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychologist who's weirdly obsessed with IQ, and PragerU is just a bunch of Ben Shapiro clones.

You missed the best part about Jordan Peterson, his lobster fetishism

What?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:56 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:They're famous on political YouTube circles, if that counts. Ben Shapiro is a holier-than-thou Young ConservativeTM who thinks ancient political talking points are relevant and good arguments, Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychologist who's weirdly obsessed with IQ, and PragerU is just a bunch of Ben Shapiro clones.

You missed the best part about Jordan Peterson, his lobster fetishism


Idk.
Pointing out that hierarchy might have biological causes seems fine to me. The lobster argument was used to suggest that hierarchy isn't necessarily socially constructed. Him trying to skip from there to loudly implying but not explicitly saying biological reasons for male leadership isn't justified however.
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:21 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Painisia wrote:Do you all think that the United Nations is useful?


It could be a useful means of promoting revolution if it weren't under capitalist domination, particularly from the U.S.

The UN is a tool of international capitalism, it should be destroyed.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:28 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
It could be a useful means of promoting revolution if it weren't under capitalist domination, particularly from the U.S.

The UN is a tool of international capitalism, it should be destroyed.

I agree with you but for completely different reasons.
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:30 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Aillyria wrote:The UN is a tool of international capitalism, it should be destroyed.

I agree with you but for completely different reasons.

Meh, the goal is what's important, I guess.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:04 pm

Aillyria wrote:The UN is a tool of international capitalism, it should be destroyed.


Certainly in its present form.
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Postby New Emeline » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:06 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:They're famous on political YouTube circles, if that counts. Ben Shapiro is a holier-than-thou Young ConservativeTM who thinks ancient political talking points are relevant and good arguments, Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychologist who's weirdly obsessed with IQ, and PragerU is just a bunch of Ben Shapiro clones.

You missed the best part about Jordan Peterson, his lobster fetishism

His what?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:32 pm

...damn, I'm developing a crush on a Trotskyist. :o
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:32 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Olivaero wrote:You missed the best part about Jordan Peterson, his lobster fetishism

His what?

He tried to use lobster society as an analogy to justify his idea that hierarchies are a natural necessity in human society.

He also fantasizes about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:35 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Him trying to skip from there to loudly implying but not explicitly saying biological reasons for male leadership isn't justified however.

And that's the main thing with him: he constantly implies that he sees his traditionalist worldview as biologically justified, but he only implies it.
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Postby Koalatopolis » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:35 pm

Liriena wrote:
New Emeline wrote:His what?

He tried to use lobster society as an analogy to justify his idea that hierarchies are a natural necessity in human society.

He also fantasizes about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.


I fantasize about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.

I love Jordan Peterson.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:37 pm

Aellex wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Charlie Kirk
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This is why we're reinstating the gulags comrade Liri >:^(

Who's that guy and are the people he mentioned famous? I think I recognised only one name and I'm not even sure where I heard it.

Charlie Kirk is the Koch-funded leader of Toilet Paper USA (okay, seriously, it's called Turning Point USA). It's a "conservative" college activist group that seems to mostly dedicate its time and money to making bad memes and, on one occasion, putting on diapers to own the libs.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:38 pm

Koalatopolis wrote:
Liriena wrote:He tried to use lobster society as an analogy to justify his idea that hierarchies are a natural necessity in human society.

He also fantasizes about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.


I fantasize about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.

If you're serious, please see a psychiatrist. That is not healthy.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:38 pm

Koalatopolis wrote:
Liriena wrote:He tried to use lobster society as an analogy to justify his idea that hierarchies are a natural necessity in human society.

He also fantasizes about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.


I fantasize about beating the crap out of two-year-olds.

I love Jordan Peterson.

Jordan, go back to Twitter. :P
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