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If my neighbors dog craps on my lawn I have a god-given right to respond with the use of force up to and including recreational nuclear warheads
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Guns are literally the embodiment of all evil ever created by mankind, and when the last gun is finally destroyed the entire world will be at peace
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I'm lame and choose not to use a poll with wild stereotypes about both sides because I'm lame
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:38 pm

Kramanica wrote:London overtakes New York City in murder as stabbings surge.

Hm... maybe knife control is the answer.

Pretty sure there ar me movements for knife control/bans.

Let’s not do that, that’s just stupid.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:40 pm


Ok...

How is this a gun violence issue? Is she suggesting replacing police guns with billy clubs or some shit?
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:42 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:

Ok...

How is this a gun violence issue? Is she suggesting replacing police guns with billy clubs or some shit?


I mean, did you watch the video? Blasting a suspected criminal like twenty times with a gun is pretty violent. Especially when he's already down and you keep on firing.

It's part gun violence issue and part police brutality issue, which go hand-in-hand with each other. So in other words, disarm the police yo.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:43 pm


Police brutality / civilian gun violence.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:44 pm

Sovaal wrote:

Police brutality / civilian gun violence.


I'd say it's still definitely an issue of gun violence, just in another form. A nastier, authoritarian type of form.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:44 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Ok...

How is this a gun violence issue? Is she suggesting replacing police guns with billy clubs or some shit?


I mean, did you watch the video? Blasting a suspected criminal like twenty times with a gun is pretty violent. Especially when he's already down and you keep on firing.

It's part gun violence issue and part police brutality issue, which go hand-in-hand with each other. So in other words, disarm the police yo.

Have you seen the movie "Zulu"?

Imagine that, but with thugs instead of brits and fat white men with billy clubs instead of Zulus...

Actually, that's a great idea
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:46 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I mean, did you watch the video? Blasting a suspected criminal like twenty times with a gun is pretty violent. Especially when he's already down and you keep on firing.

It's part gun violence issue and part police brutality issue, which go hand-in-hand with each other. So in other words, disarm the police yo.

Have you seen the movie "Zulu"?

Imagine that, but with thugs instead of brits and fat white men with billy clubs instead of Zulus...

Actually, that's a great idea


Well, fuck the police, so I'd be down to see people kick their billy-club-wielding asses. :P
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:34 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Police brutality / civilian gun violence.


I'd say it's still definitely an issue of gun violence, just in another form. A nastier, authoritarian type of form.

Y'mean like the type the 2nd amendment is to help protect against in its simplistic lil way, against threats both domestic and foriegn?

I mean, one of the parts about the 2nd amendment was to encourage comepancy in firearms-handling so people don't negligently-discharge their own service-pistool into their own foot... or shoot a gun in a changing room "to see if it was real"... CMP got its start to encourage people to dump the popular lever-action deer-hunting rifle of Civil-war era design in favor of bolt and semi-auto actions that were becoming vogue in the turn of the century.

CMP came up with IDPA and 3-gun competitions precisely to get competition-shooters to boost their effective rates of fire prior to service in the Army, should they be drafted or choose to volunteer... or volunteer their services to train other militaries such as Instructor Zero providing training to forces in the Philipean Marines fighting ISIS in Marawi and forces Paraguay in Mali.

*2nd link is age restricted, because war ain't pretty.
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:35 pm


Never heard of him.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:09 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Ok...

How is this a gun violence issue? Is she suggesting replacing police guns with billy clubs or some shit?


I mean, did you watch the video? Blasting a suspected criminal like twenty times with a gun is pretty violent. Especially when he's already down and you keep on firing.

It's part gun violence issue and part police brutality issue, which go hand-in-hand with each other. So in other words, disarm the police yo.


Disarm Disband the police and let everyone carry and police themselves and their community. *nod*
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:12 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I mean, did you watch the video? Blasting a suspected criminal like twenty times with a gun is pretty violent. Especially when he's already down and you keep on firing.

It's part gun violence issue and part police brutality issue, which go hand-in-hand with each other. So in other words, disarm the police yo.


Disarm Disband the police and let everyone carry and police themselves and their community. *nod*


Anarcho-communism! o/
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:14 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Disarm Disband the police and let everyone carry and police themselves and their community. *nod*


Anarcho-communism! o/


To paraphrase your earlier post: fuck the commies.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:17 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Anarcho-communism! o/


To paraphrase your earlier post: fuck the commies.


I mean, if you mean tankies, fuck yeah. But not the rest of us ;~;
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:22 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
To paraphrase your earlier post: fuck the commies.


I mean, if you mean tankies, fuck yeah. But not the rest of us ;~;
o

No, I mean pretty much all commies. Any firm of collectivism in fact.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:29 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I mean, if you mean tankies, fuck yeah. But not the rest of us ;~;
o

No, I mean pretty much all commies. Any firm of collectivism in fact.


You wound me, Biggus Jimmus. ;~;
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:34 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:o

No, I mean pretty much all commies. Any firm of collectivism in fact.


You wound me, Biggus Jimmus. ;~;

I'll throw in a couple of these ET-MP grenades to put you out of your misery Torrocca.

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Postby Kramanica » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:55 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:o

No, I mean pretty much all commies. Any firm of collectivism in fact.


You wound me, Biggus Jimmus. ;~;

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Postby Ors Might » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:27 am

Kramanica wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
You wound me, Biggus Jimmus. ;~;

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commies git out

Guaranteed way to scare any commie away.

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I’d consider this a separate issue from gun violence in that we’d have to tackle in a different way. Improving both police policy and training would be a good step, as well as helping repair relations between them and the communities they patrol. Recruiting more officers from these communities and putting a bigger emphasis on deescalation techniques would go a long way. In the long run, ending the War on Drugs would also help in poorer communities.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:49 am

Kramanica wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
You wound me, Biggus Jimmus. ;~;

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commies git out

Guaranteed way to scare any commie away.


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Ors Might wrote:
Kramanica wrote:
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commies git out

Guaranteed way to scare any commie away.

HISSSS


I’d consider this a separate issue from gun violence in that we’d have to tackle in a different way. Improving both police policy and training would be a good step, as well as helping repair relations between them and the communities they patrol. Recruiting more officers from these communities and putting a bigger emphasis on deescalation techniques would go a long way. In the long run, ending the War on Drugs would also help in poorer communities.


Alternatively, fuck the police, arm the proletariat, and start the international revolution. :^)))
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:53 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Anarcho-communism! o/


To paraphrase your earlier post: fuck the commies.

He says, while advocating for a central plank of anarcho-communism.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:59 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
To paraphrase your earlier post: fuck the commies.

He says, while advocating for a central plank of anarcho-communism.


>When you're cool with communist policy until someone calls it communism
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:59 am

Torrocca wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:He says, while advocating for a central plank of anarcho-communism.


>When you're cool with communist policy until someone calls it communism

Welcome to most people.
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Postby Staniel » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:00 am

Hey, guys, sorry, I'm late to the party... :p

So, gun control? Yeah, I'm not willing for the corrupt government to confiscate my constitutionally given rights. Oh, and personal things like feet killed more people than both shotguns AND rifles according to a 2017 Statista report.



This all would've been prevented if the Broward County police had just done their job and had the POS institutionalized after 39 calls......
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:01 am

Staniel wrote:Hey, guys, sorry, I'm late to the party... :p

So, gun control? Yeah, I'm not willing for the corrupt government to confiscate my constitutionally given rights. Oh, and personal things like feet killed more people than both shotguns AND rifles according to a 2017 Statista report.



This all would've been prevented if the Broward County police had just done their job and had the POS institutionalized after 39 calls......


>expecting .gov to do something right

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Postby Staniel » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:05 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Staniel wrote:Hey, guys, sorry, I'm late to the party... :p

So, gun control? Yeah, I'm not willing for the corrupt government to confiscate my constitutionally given rights. Oh, and personal things like feet killed more people than both shotguns AND rifles according to a 2017 Statista report.



This all would've been prevented if the Broward County police had just done their job and had the POS institutionalized after 39 calls......


>expecting .gov to do something right

anon plz


:blink: I never did?
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