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Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

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Postby Reikoku » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:42 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:No, because Longshanks was unironically the good guy fighting the Scottish barbarians. =^^^(

One day the world will kneel before the superior Gaels.


I bet you believe William Wallace and Robert the Bruce were Gaelic. :lol2:
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:53 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:>positivism in 2018

>current year

>trying to duplicate greentext on NS
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:55 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:So, are skeptics lying about the regressive left or is there some truth to what they say?

I need to start keeping tally marks of how many times you ask this question.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:55 pm

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Italios wrote:real cultural marxists only support entertainment pieces that hit all points of intersection. gender and race is simply too little.


Do you realize that the term cultural Marxism is lifted out of nazism?

Sarcasmus.
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:01 pm

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Postby Jackania yugo » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:12 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:So, are skeptics lying about the regressive left or is there some truth to what they say?

I need to start keeping tally marks of how many times you ask this question.


Can you just give me an answer.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:23 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:One day the world will kneel before the superior Gaels.


I bet you believe William Wallace and Robert the Bruce were Gaelic. :lol2:

Don't crush my dreams. ;-;
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:17 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I need to start keeping tally marks of how many times you ask this question.


Can you just give me an answer.

They're lying, or at least making a planet out of a molehill. Outrage creates views, views make sponsors happy, YouTubers get money.
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Postby Mujahidah » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:10 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:>current year

>trying to duplicate greentext on NS


>Doing the thing you're criticizing to criticize the thing you're criticizing
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:12 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:>trying to duplicate greentext on NS


>Doing the thing you're criticizing to criticize the thing you're criticizing

>not realizing I was talking about the green color and not the meme arrows
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:40 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
>Doing the thing you're criticizing to criticize the thing you're criticizing

>not realizing I was talking about the green color and not the meme arrows

Just trying to be more authentic.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:05 pm

That feel when you're too lefty for the right but not quite lefty enough for the left but also not centre-y enough for the centrists.

Haaalp I don't wanna be a snowflaaaake.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:09 pm

Albrenia wrote:That feel when you're too lefty for the right but not quite lefty enough for the left but also not centre-y enough for the centrists.

Haaalp I don't wanna be a snowflaaaake.

Welcome to my world.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:14 pm

Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz
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Postby Reikoku » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz


Remember reading about how Southern Poverty Law Center declared him to be an “anti-Muslim extremist.” which really goes to show they've gone off the deep end.

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Postby Torrocca » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz


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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz


He is a hate group figure, some ago Trotskylvania showed me the light of the SPLC!

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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

Discuss what? He's just a lib dem who cops a weird amount of hate from the left.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:28 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz


He is a hate group figure, some ago Trotskylvania showed me the light of the SPLC!

https://www.splcenter.org/20161025/jour ... ists#nawaz

Their argument is pretty poor.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:32 pm

Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

He seems okay to me at first glance.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:34 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
He is a hate group figure, some ago Trotskylvania showed me the light of the SPLC!

https://www.splcenter.org/20161025/jour ... ists#nawaz

Their argument is pretty poor.

...Yeah. From that, he just looks selfish and a bit of a liar. Not an Islamophobe or hate figure. The SPLC can be a bit wacky sometimes.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

He is an absolute unit.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:33 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Maajid Nawaz, British born Muslim and secular liberal.
Discuss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

He is an absolute unit.

What?
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:22 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:One day the world will kneel before the superior Gaels.


I bet you believe William Wallace and Robert the Bruce were Gaelic. :lol2:


Robert the Bruce's mother was Gaelic, and he himself spoke Gaelic. Whether he considered that his indentifying culture or not I don't know.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:25 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:He is an absolute unit.

What?

He is a chad.
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