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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:08 pm

UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:11 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)


(Insert Longbows, cross bows, boiling oil, swords, flaming pigs, bubonic plague, King Henry 8th)
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:19 pm

So this happened recently.
Students in Netherlands Chase Off Knife-Wielding School Intruder

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/0 ... l-intruder

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:31 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)


Re: The absolute madmans are already doing it :rofl:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... y-cyclists
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... under-18s/
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:So this happened recently.
Students in Netherlands Chase Off Knife-Wielding School Intruder

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/0 ... l-intruder

They could have chased off a gun-wielding intruder just as easy if the students were all carrying guns!
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Postby Corrian » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:31 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)

Stabbing people is not the same as being able to murder people from a distance...So that comparison is dumb. You're also more likely to survive a stab wound than a gun shot.

While there are rare extreme cases, I can't just go raid a school and stab 17 people to death nearly as easy as if I had an AR-15.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:32 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)


Still seems to me the ban on guns had its intended affect. Removing dangerous weapons from the general community.

Guns are far more dangerous than knives.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:32 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)


(Insert Longbows, cross bows, boiling oil, swords, flaming pigs, bubonic plague, King Henry 8th)

Also last I checked, bows don't rapidly fire like an AR-15 :)
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:36 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:UK is a pretty good example of gun control being inefficient:
https://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/wi ... r-gun.html

Gun murders high -> Ban guns -> Knife murders spike -> Ban knives -> Assault trucks and acid throwing murders spike -> Ban acid and assault trucks (?)


Still seems to me the ban on guns had its intended affect. Removing dangerous weapons from the general community.

Guns are far more dangerous than knives.


Assault truck mass murder and acid attacks are far more dangerous than both.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:37 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:
Still seems to me the ban on guns had its intended affect. Removing dangerous weapons from the general community.

Guns are far more dangerous than knives.


Assault truck mass murder and acid attacks are far more dangerous than both.


Guns are 1 problem. Terrorist attacks using trucks is another separate problem as are acid attacks.

Logically you deal with each problem differently because each situation is unique. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply?
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Postby Corrian » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:39 pm

Pretty sure guns tend to murder more than acid can in a short period of time as well.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:46 pm

Corrian wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:
(Insert Longbows, cross bows, boiling oil, swords, flaming pigs, bubonic plague, King Henry 8th)

Also last I checked, bows don't rapidly fire like an AR-15 :)

Lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efX1cKLki5Y
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:48 pm

Corrian wrote:Pretty sure guns tend to murder more than acid can in a short period of time as well.

Someone will make an acid gun!
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:50 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Corrian wrote:Also last I checked, bows don't rapidly fire like an AR-15 :)

Lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efX1cKLki5Y

The NRA would have armed the Orcs and Uruk-Hai with guns just to prove that only guns can stop an invasion.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:00 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:

The NRA would have armed the Orcs and Uruk-Hai with guns just to prove that only guns can stop an invasion.

Other way around dude the NRA would have armed the defenders with guns to stop an invasion.

Plus Lars Anderson set a speed record by shooting ten arrows in 4.9 seconds. Also theses arrows would work as well https://youtu.be/0dmhyWvhjDI
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:06 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:
Assault truck mass murder and acid attacks are far more dangerous than both.


Guns are 1 problem. Terrorist attacks using trucks is another separate problem as are acid attacks.

Logically you deal with each problem differently because each situation is unique. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply?


I'm pointing out that banning one thing after the other still creates another scapegoats for violence. The only thing that banning things will do is to create general discontent.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:08 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Pretty sure guns tend to murder more than acid can in a short period of time as well.

Someone will make an acid gun!


There actually are acid guns already, it's just easier for the next criminals to use The Boring Company's flamethrowers. How long until Musk is enshrined as the public enemy of HM Govt?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:21 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Someone will make an acid gun!


There actually are acid guns already, it's just easier for the next criminals to use The Boring Company's flamethrowers. How long until Musk is enshrined as the public enemy of HM Govt?

He's already got his own rocket that goes into space so why not turn into the Spacex ICBM.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:22 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Hallistrom wrote:Unless you know every single little detail about guns then you have no right to express an opinion on mentally ill people buying assault rifles.

[/gunnut logic]


I don't think that poor straw man appreciates being manhandled by you in such a way.

I think the strawman needs to #metoo it
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Postby Kramanica » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:25 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:

The NRA would have armed the Orcs and Uruk-Hai with guns just to prove that only guns can stop an invasion.

Do you ever actually have a point to make beyond relentless shitposting?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:31 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:The NRA would have armed the Orcs and Uruk-Hai with guns just to prove that only guns can stop an invasion.

Do you ever actually have a point to make beyond relentless shitposting?

That would require work.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:37 pm

Hey everyone I solved our gun problem, let the dems take the scary black guns while we take these naturally silent "assault rifles" and " machine guns" yeah all natural assault rifle and machine guns, none of the metal and oil crap. :p

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“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
“If we don’t know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can’t anticipate our future actions!”

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:40 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:Hey everyone I solved our gun problem, let the dems take the scary black guns while we take these naturally silent "assault rifles" and " machine guns" yeah all natural assault rifle and machine guns, none of the metal and oil crap. :p

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In that case I need a few siege engines
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:00 am

Corrian wrote:Pretty sure guns tend to murder more than acid can in a short period of time as well.


And yet stupidity can kill more people than guns and acid combined in a shorter time.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:15 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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It's an M-16 with the select fire option deleted. Claiming it's not a weapon of war is like claiming the SLR wasn't a weapon of war because it didn't have select fire.


Other way around actually. ArmaLite originally built and marketed it towards civilians before the military and Colt picked up the design.

I thought it spun off from the AR-10 after the US realized they needed a smaller caliber than 7.62?

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