by Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:25 am
by Arkhall » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:57 am
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:A fair point is currently being raised in the WA Security Council right now regarding Westphalia, on the loss of Regional Message Board content if a region is refounded due to a raid. Right now, Westphalia is liable to being refounded with very little notice, which would result in the loss of a little under 31,000 messages on their RMB. Is there any tool out there right now that allows a region's RMB to be backed up, and if not, could NS admins look into an option to download a copy of a region's RMB?
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by [violet] » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:36 am
by Jar Wattinree » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:53 am
[violet] wrote:There's nothing much now, but I'm developing a system that will preserve RMBs after region death. I've taken a snapshot of Westphalia today, so if it does disappear, I can restore it to public view once the new system is running.
by Flanderlion » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:21 pm
[violet] wrote:There's nothing much now, but I'm developing a system that will preserve RMBs after region death. I've taken a snapshot of Westphalia today, so if it does disappear, I can restore it to public view once the new system is running.
by Lenlyvit » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:06 pm
[violet] wrote:There's nothing much now, but I'm developing a system that will preserve RMBs after region death. I've taken a snapshot of Westphalia today, so if it does disappear, I can restore it to public view once the new system is running.
by Frisbeeteria » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:38 pm
Lenlyvit wrote:Does that mean the RMB will re-appear on the region itself, or in a seperate space designed to be viewable but not written on? And if a separate space, will it have a permanent link to it installed somewhere on the region page?
by Lockdownn » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:48 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:Lenlyvit wrote:Does that mean the RMB will re-appear on the region itself, or in a seperate space designed to be viewable but not written on? And if a separate space, will it have a permanent link to it installed somewhere on the region page?
I would imagine it's yet to be determined. What would you like to see?
by Lenlyvit » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:50 pm
Lockdownn wrote:Frisbeeteria wrote:I would imagine it's yet to be determined. What would you like to see?
I'd personally prefer a divider of sorts between old and new RMBs. Something like "Region's RMB (Ancient) <--> Region's RMB (Current)"
If the option is to preserve all possible RMB histories then I would suggest adding a number after the ancient section indicating which old RMB section it is. "Region's RMB (Ancient [1])" for example.
The sections would act as folders where you would click on the section and page through the desired content but would remain hidden behind the section select as default.
by Frisbeeteria » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:05 pm
Lockdownn wrote:If the option is to preserve all possible RMB histories
by Flanderlion » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:26 pm
by Kshrlmnt » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:42 pm
by Raionitu » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:36 pm
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by Leutria » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:48 pm
Raionitu wrote:I think giving two options at refounding would be best.
Keep old one is good for a region that went founderless and is doing it for security. Getting rid of it is nice for if you are using a name someone used previously, but have no association, or the previous RMB was full of spam and clutter.
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:31 am
Leutria wrote:Raionitu wrote:I think giving two options at refounding would be best.
Keep old one is good for a region that went founderless and is doing it for security. Getting rid of it is nice for if you are using a name someone used previously, but have no association, or the previous RMB was full of spam and clutter.
Issue with this is shown by the very region promoting this suggestion, Westphalia. If a region emptied and refounded by raiders, chances are they would choose not to keep the old RMB even if they old natives or even the wider community would want access to that history.
by Flanderlion » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:33 am
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Leutria wrote:Issue with this is shown by the very region promoting this suggestion, Westphalia. If a region emptied and refounded by raiders, chances are they would choose not to keep the old RMB even if they old natives or even the wider community would want access to that history.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the proposal though, the RMB would still exist, it would just be under the history page instead of just continuing as part of the current RMB. So it's a choice between archiving the RMB or just continuing where it left off before the refound. Either way, it would be accessible.
If I'm misunderstanding, someone please do correct me. If not, I support the choice option.
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:39 am
Flanderlion wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Unless I'm misunderstanding the proposal though, the RMB would still exist, it would just be under the history page instead of just continuing as part of the current RMB. So it's a choice between archiving the RMB or just continuing where it left off before the refound. Either way, it would be accessible.
If I'm misunderstanding, someone please do correct me. If not, I support the choice option.
Everyone else supports that, Rai's has either the history page as the voluntary option or just whoever refounds can decide to wipe it all.
by Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:39 am
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Flanderlion wrote:Everyone else supports that, Rai's has either the history page as the voluntary option or just whoever refounds can decide to wipe it all.
Oh, well I don't support being given the choice to wipe it all. That completely defeats the purpose and raiders would frequently choose that.
by Raionitu » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:58 am
Leutria wrote:Raionitu wrote:I think giving two options at refounding would be best.
Keep old one is good for a region that went founderless and is doing it for security. Getting rid of it is nice for if you are using a name someone used previously, but have no association, or the previous RMB was full of spam and clutter.
Issue with this is shown by the very region promoting this suggestion, Westphalia. If a region emptied and refounded by raiders, chances are they would choose not to keep the old RMB even if they old natives or even the wider community would want access to that history.
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by Raionitu » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:01 am
Flanderlion wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Unless I'm misunderstanding the proposal though, the RMB would still exist, it would just be under the history page instead of just continuing as part of the current RMB. So it's a choice between archiving the RMB or just continuing where it left off before the refound. Either way, it would be accessible.
If I'm misunderstanding, someone please do correct me. If not, I support the choice option.
Everyone else supports that, Rai's has either the history page as the voluntary option or just whoever refounds can decide to wipe it all.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
by Vulturret » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:09 am
by [violet] » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:38 pm
Lenlyvit wrote:[violet] wrote:There's nothing much now, but I'm developing a system that will preserve RMBs after region death. I've taken a snapshot of Westphalia today, so if it does disappear, I can restore it to public view once the new system is running.
Does that mean the RMB will re-appear on the region itself, or in a seperate space designed to be viewable but not written on? And if a separate space, will it have a permanent link to it installed somewhere on the region page? Just curious.
Flanderlion wrote:Also would it be able to take the regional history page?
Flanderlion wrote:Personally, I think a region being refounded should just be changing the founder, the region is just paused while it doesn't exist.
by Lenlyvit » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:40 pm
[violet] wrote:Lenlyvit wrote:Does that mean the RMB will re-appear on the region itself, or in a seperate space designed to be viewable but not written on? And if a separate space, will it have a permanent link to it installed somewhere on the region page? Just curious.
It means that it will be viewable in an archive area of the forum, similar to this.
by Marilyn Manson Freaks » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:46 am
[violet] wrote:There's nothing much now, but I'm developing a system that will preserve RMBs after region death. I've taken a snapshot of Westphalia today, so if it does disappear, I can restore it to public view once the new system is running.
by Parakka » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:45 am
[violet] wrote:Lenlyvit wrote:Does that mean the RMB will re-appear on the region itself, or in a seperate space designed to be viewable but not written on? And if a separate space, will it have a permanent link to it installed somewhere on the region page? Just curious.
It means that it will be viewable in an archive area of the forum, similar to this.Flanderlion wrote:Also would it be able to take the regional history page?
No, this is only about RMBs.Flanderlion wrote:Personally, I think a region being refounded should just be changing the founder, the region is just paused while it doesn't exist.
Yes, I think when people talk about improving refoundings, they really just want a process for appointing a new founder. They don't actually want the region to be destroyed and remade with no history/RMB/etc.
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