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Do you think WWIII is going to start?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:26 am

The South Falls wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A war with N.K. will not be a world war.

OBVIOUSLY. Because when Russia and China get involved, and all their allies, vs. The US and all it's allies, that's obviously not considered a world war.

China is only going to fight for NK if the US attacks them. Otherwise they aren’t going to do shit. Russia is currently pissed at NK and the Russian military is a paper tiger
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:27 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Might as well be at 11:59:59.

That damn thing has never been right. It’s all fear mongering bullshit

Tbh, climate change is far more dangerous than the threat of nuclear war. And unlike nuclear war (where only 2 nukes have been used in warfare, the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki), climate change is happening right now (yes, Trump)

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Postby Annihitor the Incred » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:27 am

It has already begun. I am invading Liechtenstein as we speak, trusty Horsie under me and brave Barkie at my heels. We shall be kings.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:28 am

Olthar wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Conventional wars may happen. Nuclear wars may not.

And how are you going to wage a conventional war while ensuring that it never turns nuclear?

The Falklands. And a few other wars like the Vietnam war never turned Nuclear
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:29 am

Annihitor the Incred wrote:It has already begun. I am invading Liechtenstein as we speak, trusty Horsie under me and brave Barkie at my heels. We shall be kings.

So... you're invading Liechtenstein by yourself with medieval weaponry?

Get rekt m9.

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Postby Annihitor the Incred » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:34 am

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Annihitor the Incred wrote:It has already begun. I am invading Liechtenstein as we speak, trusty Horsie under me and brave Barkie at my heels. We shall be kings.

So... you're invading Liechtenstein by yourself with medieval weaponry?

Get rekt m9.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:36 am

Annihitor the Incred wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:So... you're invading Liechtenstein by yourself with medieval weaponry?

Get rekt m9.

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Postby Kernen » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:22 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:OBVIOUSLY. Because when Russia and China get involved, and all their allies, vs. The US and all it's allies, that's obviously not considered a world war.

China is only going to fight for NK if the US attacks them. Otherwise they aren’t going to do shit. Russia is currently pissed at NK and the Russian military is a paper tiger

Its unlikely that the Chinese will permit US military action in proximity to their borders, just like in the Korean War. If the US can keep land forces at a distance, then perhaps they will sit tight. China doesn't want to be contained a la the Russian Federation.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:The Falklands. And a few other wars like the Vietnam war never turned Nuclear

Tbh I am surprised Thatcher never said to the Argentines: "GTFO, or our Polaris subs will be circling Argentina".
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:47 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:I have it on good authority that WWIII won't start until 2077.

War... war never changes.

On topic, a country dubbed "North Korea Simulator" asking if WWIII will start soon. Kim, is that you?

No, it won't.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:49 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The Falklands. And a few other wars like the Vietnam war never turned Nuclear

Tbh I am surprised Thatcher never said to the Argentines: "GTFO, or our Polaris subs will be circling Argentina".

Because Argentina isn't an island?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Tbh I am surprised Thatcher never said to the Argentines: "GTFO, or our Polaris subs will be circling Argentina".

Because Argentina isn't an island?

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Tbh I am surprised Thatcher never said to the Argentines: "GTFO, or our Polaris subs will be circling Argentina".

Because Argentina isn't an island?

Rofl, I didn't literally mean circling, silly Farn. :p
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Postby Powerful and Prosperous Korea » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:53 pm

North Korea Simulator wrote:Realizing the past news, tensions with the world superpowers; the US, Russia, China, and other minor nations, North Korea and Israel, have been a subject on almost all news outlets.

We will start by part:

North Korea:
Kim Jong-un and US president Donald Trump, have been flaming at each other for a long time now. Ever since Trump arrived to the White House, the Supreme Leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un, has been testing new ICBMs that could reach the west coast of the USA (most notably the state of California), the US president has been calling for military intervention in to North Korea. As he quoted in a Fox News news flash: "North Korea will meet fire and fury as never before seen", end of quote.

Then again on new year's eve, Kim Jong-un sended a message to the US president that,and he quotes: I have a red button in my desk", with President Trump replying back: " My red button is bigger". To make matters worst, the PRC (People's Republic of China, or simply China), have also replied on fighting against the United States supporting the DPRK.

Later on the Pyeonchang Winter Olympics, both Koreas have been talking on peace relations with each other, but the United States has seen this with suspicion, most notably for President Trump, as he did not posted on his Twitter account on supporting the Olympics, with its strange, as he posted on Twitter during the Rio Summer Olympics of 2016.

Israel

President Trump announced that be will be moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and recognize Jerusalem as the official capital of Israel.
This has been controversial with the world, most notably the Arab nations. As multiple Arab nations have been protesting the issue, as they claim west Jerusalem as the official capital of Palestine. The government of Iran have been on the bait to even fight against Israel to declare west Jerusalem as the capital of future Palestinian Nation. The President of Turkey has said that if this happened, Turkey will cut relations with Israel.

Multiple EU nations, most notably Emanuel Macron, President of France, has said that this could be "a dangerous action". Matters got worsen, as may violent protest from Palestinians flared for a very long time, with most notably, flag burnings, poster burning, etc.

Russia

The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, has been arming its border with North Korea with anti-aircraft artillery, in order to defend its self from a high tension war between the United States a d North Korea.

President Putin also has said recently threats against the United States with Russia's nuclear weapons, most notably a bomb called " Satan 2". Supposly this bomb can cause more destruction than a normal WMD.

Do you think world war 3 is going to start?
Got anything else you want to share that is not listed here that can cause WWIII?

Reply this post!

I think that WWIII and war in general is inevitable. Especially with all our technological advancements and mastering of global communication, although you'd think it would have the opposite affect and actually bring a species closer together. But no, we're talking about humans here. And as long as there are humans on this planet, people will be trying to kill eachother, and coming up with new ways to kill eachother, and utilize all the resources at their disposal to kill eachother. There's nothing that can be done to stop or prevent that, it's just a cold reality that we all have to accept. You can have all the globalism, all the peace summits that you want, but none of that is going to change human nature. It's sad to say that we are inherently violent and self-destructive as a species, but it seems to be an undeniable objective fact at this point.

As for WWIII happening soon or in the near future, it's unlikely given all the internationalism that we have with the UN. I mean it's whole purpose is to prevent something like WWIII from ever happening. But, let the world gradually turn against and abandon the UN. I think we'll be back to dropping nukes on eachother in relatively no time.

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Postby Datlofff » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:14 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A war with N.K. will not be a world war.

OBVIOUSLY. Because when Russia and China get involved, and all their allies, vs. The US and all it's allies, that's obviously not considered a world war.


China would only get involved if NK was directly attacked, thats the only reason we haven't flattened their ass with our airforce. Russia won't get involved at all, they aren't communist, and they aren't friends with NK, in fact, I wouldn't be suprised if they helped the US out, and at the same time, scooped up some of that land full of valuable coal to export to china.

The way I see it, if a war does break out, NK will eventually get really good with nukes, and then fire one at the US, the USA intercepts the nuke, and declares war on NK, then invades them, and overthrows the regime. China backs down, because they don't want to be the aggressor in the war, and Russia takes a nice chunk of northern North Korea, in order to secure more resources
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Postby Datlofff » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:14 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:A war with N.K. will not be a world war.

OBVIOUSLY. Because when Russia and China get involved, and all their allies, vs. The US and all it's allies, that's obviously not considered a world war.


China would only get involved if NK was directly attacked, thats the only reason we haven't flattened their ass with our airforce. Russia won't get involved at all, they aren't communist, and they aren't friends with NK, in fact, I wouldn't be suprised if they helped the US out, and at the same time, scooped up some of that land full of valuable coal to export to china.

The way I see it, if a war does break out, NK will eventually get really good with nukes, and then fire one at the US, the USA intercepts the nuke, and declares war on NK, then invades them, and overthrows the regime. China backs down, because they don't want to be the aggressor in the war, and Russia takes a nice chunk of northern North Korea, in order to secure more resources
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:21 pm

North Korea Simulator wrote:Realizing the past news, tensions with the world superpowers; the US, Russia, China, and other minor nations, North Korea and Israel, have been a subject on almost all news outlets.

We will start by part:

North Korea:
Kim Jong-un and US president Donald Trump, have been flaming at each other for a long time now. Ever since Trump arrived to the White House, the Supreme Leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un, has been testing new ICBMs that could reach the west coast of the USA (most notably the state of California), the US president has been calling for military intervention in to North Korea. As he quoted in a Fox News news flash: "North Korea will meet fire and fury as never before seen", end of quote.

Then again on new year's eve, Kim Jong-un sended a message to the US president that,and he quotes: I have a red button in my desk", with President Trump replying back: " My red button is bigger". To make matters worst, the PRC (People's Republic of China, or simply China), have also replied on fighting against the United States supporting the DPRK.

Later on the Pyeonchang Winter Olympics, both Koreas have been talking on peace relations with each other, but the United States has seen this with suspicion, most notably for President Trump, as he did not posted on his Twitter account on supporting the Olympics, with its strange, as he posted on Twitter during the Rio Summer Olympics of 2016.

Israel

President Trump announced that be will be moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and recognize Jerusalem as the official capital of Israel.
This has been controversial with the world, most notably the Arab nations. As multiple Arab nations have been protesting the issue, as they claim west Jerusalem as the official capital of Palestine. The government of Iran have been on the bait to even fight against Israel to declare west Jerusalem as the capital of future Palestinian Nation. The President of Turkey has said that if this happened, Turkey will cut relations with Israel.

Multiple EU nations, most notably Emanuel Macron, President of France, has said that this could be "a dangerous action". Matters got worsen, as may violent protest from Palestinians flared for a very long time, with most notably, flag burnings, poster burning, etc.

Russia

The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, has been arming its border with North Korea with anti-aircraft artillery, in order to defend its self from a high tension war between the United States a d North Korea.

President Putin also has said recently threats against the United States with Russia's nuclear weapons, most notably a bomb called " Satan 2". Supposly this bomb can cause more destruction than a normal WMD.

Do you think world war 3 is going to start?
Got anything else you want to share that is not listed here that can cause WWIII?

Reply this post!


Humans aren't that stupid to annihilate themselves, are they? Stupidity should hopefully have a limit here.
Though if it WAS a conventional war, the damage, both moral and material, that WWIII would inflict on humanity would be pretty much almost irreversible. I mean, WWII was the costliest and deadliest war in human history that occurred 79 years ago. With modern technology, who knows how much a conventional WWIII would cost?
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Postby Datlofff » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:OBVIOUSLY. Because when Russia and China get involved, and all their allies, vs. The US and all it's allies, that's obviously not considered a world war.

China is only going to fight for NK if the US attacks them. Otherwise they aren’t going to do shit. Russia is currently pissed at NK and the Russian military is a paper tiger


The Russian military is no joke fam. Especially considering all the modernization they are doing.
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:27 pm

Datlofff wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:China is only going to fight for NK if the US attacks them. Otherwise they aren’t going to do shit. Russia is currently pissed at NK and the Russian military is a paper tiger


The Russian military is no joke fam. Especially considering all the modernization they are doing.

Their power projection is laughable.
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:32 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
The Russian military is no joke fam. Especially considering all the modernization they are doing.

Their power projection is laughable.


Just you see their full military might...
15 years later
Any second now...
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Postby Datlofff » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:34 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Datlofff wrote:
The Russian military is no joke fam. Especially considering all the modernization they are doing.

Their power projection is laughable.


They fucked ISIS up much more effectively than the US ever has. Also, its kinda hard to power project when you have a massive alliance of 4 of the 6 strongest world powers breathing down your neck at all times. Thats like trying to steal a guys lunch money when he has 4 older brothers, all of which are 6'2 and 200 lbs, and your 5'10, a 185 lbs
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Postby Datlofff » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:35 pm

The Transhuman Union wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Their power projection is laughable.


Just you see their full military might...
15 years later
Any second now...


Ill just quote myself:

"its kinda hard to power project when you have a massive alliance of 4 of the 6 strongest world powers breathing down your neck at all times. Thats like trying to steal a guys lunch money when he has 4 older brothers, all of which are 6'2 and 200 lbs, and your 5'10, a 185 lbs"
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:42 pm

Datlofff wrote:
The Transhuman Union wrote:
Just you see their full military might...
15 years later
Any second now...


Ill just quote myself:

"its kinda hard to power project when you have a massive alliance of 4 of the 6 strongest world powers breathing down your neck at all times. Thats like trying to steal a guys lunch money when he has 4 older brothers, all of which are 6'2 and 200 lbs, and your 5'10, a 185 lbs"


I agree. But also, Putin can't expand his 'power projection'. The thing is, the Russian economy is not that strong to support his military needed to power project like the US. Especially with that Crimean debacle, the Russian GDP contracted by 3.7%. He should just play the waiting game and improve the economy instead of intervening in other affairs. But with the sanctions put on him, his economy is not going to go well.
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:44 pm

Datlofff wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Their power projection is laughable.


They fucked ISIS up much more effectively than the US ever has. Also, its kinda hard to power project when you have a massive alliance of 4 of the 6 strongest world powers breathing down your neck at all times. Thats like trying to steal a guys lunch money when he has 4 older brothers, all of which are 6'2 and 200 lbs, and your 5'10, a 185 lbs

A ham sandwich could fuck up ISIS if they really committed to it. And I mean their power projection is laughable because they literally don't have the capability to project military power beyond their own sphere of influence.
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