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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:30 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Someone actually brought this up in a discussion on paid prioritization.

The fallacy of paid prioritization lies on the word “prioritize”. There is no prioritizing web queries. Once the signal leaves a computer, it travels at the speed of light. You literally cannot make it faster.

What the corporates are offering, is instead of priority, they’re sabotaging your roads so that EVERYTHING is slowed down. Then they give the normal lane to the “prioritized” traffic.

Which wasn’t prioritized at all. It’s still traveling at the same speed.

Everything else is worse.


You're not saying anything new.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:01 am

Grand Britannia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Someone actually brought this up in a discussion on paid prioritization.

The fallacy of paid prioritization lies on the word “prioritize”. There is no prioritizing web queries. Once the signal leaves a computer, it travels at the speed of light. You literally cannot make it faster.

What the corporates are offering, is instead of priority, they’re sabotaging your roads so that EVERYTHING is slowed down. Then they give the normal lane to the “prioritized” traffic.

Which wasn’t prioritized at all. It’s still traveling at the same speed.

Everything else is worse.


You're not saying anything new.

And I will bring it up again and again till you get my outrage

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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:07 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
You're not saying anything new.

And I will bring it up again and again till you get my outrage

https://www.google.com/amp/www.aljazeer ... 23279.html

No one here wants to be as outlandishly outraged like you, because it's not gonna affect people as much as you think. You're overreacting, hyperbolic statements and links do nothing for us, except make us laugh at your childish rants and mock you for you inability to understand why we don't really give a damn, and your calls for revolution don't help your argument either.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:42 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:And I will bring it up again and again till you get my outrage

https://www.google.com/amp/www.aljazeer ... 23279.html

No one here wants to be as outlandishly outraged like you, because it's not gonna affect people as much as you think. You're overreacting, hyperbolic statements and links do nothing for us, except make us laugh at your childish rants and mock you for you inability to understand why we don't really give a damn, and your calls for revolution don't help your argument either.


I would say we care, it is just that we aren't making a giant mountain out of a tiny hill.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:49 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:No one here wants to be as outlandishly outraged like you, because it's not gonna affect people as much as you think. You're overreacting, hyperbolic statements and links do nothing for us, except make us laugh at your childish rants and mock you for you inability to understand why we don't really give a damn, and your calls for revolution don't help your argument either.


I would say we care, it is just that we aren't making a giant mountain out of a tiny hill.

That's basically my entire point to Flutters. None of us are freaking out, it's not the end of the world and none of us are calling for a revolution.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:40 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Someone actually brought this up in a discussion on paid prioritization.

The fallacy of paid prioritization lies on the word “prioritize”. There is no prioritizing web queries. Once the signal leaves a computer, it travels at the speed of light. You literally cannot make it faster.

What the corporates are offering, is instead of priority, they’re sabotaging your roads so that EVERYTHING is slowed down. Then they give the normal lane to the “prioritized” traffic.

Which wasn’t prioritized at all. It’s still traveling at the same speed.

Everything else is worse.


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Postby The Arian nation » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:21 am

as someone that actually lives in a country without any net neutrality or an equivalent.i want to show you the services that an internet provider offers over here.
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As you can see they charge more money for a better traffic and speed.and sadly You are probably gazing into your own future right now
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:40 am

The arian nation wrote:as someone that actually lives in a country without any net neutrality or an equivalent.i want to show you the services that an internet provider offers over here.
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/h1hUgS/Screenshot_20180218_182512.png]Image)[/url]
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/gHVMvn/Screenshot_20180218_182527.png]Image)[/url]
As you can see they charge more money for a better traffic and speed.and sadly You are probably gazing into your own future right now

But silly peasant, high speed internet is a luxury for the rich. Not a utility for everyday citizens. *Nods*
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:49 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
The arian nation wrote:as someone that actually lives in a country without any net neutrality or an equivalent.i want to show you the services that an internet provider offers over here.
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/h1hUgS/Screenshot_20180218_182512.png]Image)[/url]
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/gHVMvn/Screenshot_20180218_182527.png]Image)[/url]
As you can see they charge more money for a better traffic and speed.and sadly You are probably gazing into your own future right now

But silly peasant, high speed internet is a luxury for the rich. Not a utility for everyday citizens. *Nods*

That is not at all what we've been saying to you. Why is it this thread goes silent for a few days then all of a sudden you decide to pop back n and we go back to square one?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:01 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:But silly peasant, high speed internet is a luxury for the rich. Not a utility for everyday citizens. *Nods*

That is not at all what we've been saying to you. Why is it this thread goes silent for a few days then all of a sudden you decide to pop back n and we go back to square one?

You call it a luxury, which is often associated with a privilege for the rich.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:04 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:That is not at all what we've been saying to you. Why is it this thread goes silent for a few days then all of a sudden you decide to pop back n and we go back to square one?

You call it a luxury, which is often associated with a privilege for the rich.

Wrong again, I did not say it as a privilege for the rich, I say it is a luxury, meaning you have to pay for it as a luxury good that is not essential.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:40 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:You call it a luxury, which is often associated with a privilege for the rich.

Wrong again, I did not say it as a privilege for the rich, I say it is a luxury, meaning you have to pay for it as a luxury good that is not essential.

Yes we do pay for it. However, with paid prioritization it could actually become a luxury for the rich as they would be choosing winners and losers depending on how much you pay, pay, pay.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:43 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Wrong again, I did not say it as a privilege for the rich, I say it is a luxury, meaning you have to pay for it as a luxury good that is not essential.

Yes we do pay for it. However, with paid prioritization it could actually become a luxury for the rich as they would be choosing winners and losers depending on how much you pay, pay, pay.

No, that won't happen.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:45 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:Yes we do pay for it. However, with paid prioritization it could actually become a luxury for the rich as they would be choosing winners and losers depending on how much you pay, pay, pay.

No, that won't happen.

Try me. If it won't happen, why would those who can do it want the rules against it gone? Seems like saying removing rules against stealing wouldn't lead to more stealing.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:47 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:No, that won't happen.

Try me. If it won't happen, why would those who can do it want the rules against it gone? Seems like saying removing rules against stealing wouldn't lead to more stealing.

Maybe because you're over-exaggerating the worst possible outcomes.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:54 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
You're not saying anything new.

And I will bring it up again and again till you get my outrage

https://www.google.com/amp/www.aljazeer ... 23279.html


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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:56 am

The arian nation wrote:as someone that actually lives in a country without any net neutrality or an equivalent.i want to show you the services that an internet provider offers over here.
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/h1hUgS/Screenshot_20180218_182512.png]Image)[/url]
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/gHVMvn/Screenshot_20180218_182527.png]Image)[/url]
As you can see they charge more money for a better traffic and speed.and sadly You are probably gazing into your own future right now


Could you spoiler the images. Also some translations would be helpful.
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Greed and Death wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:And I will bring it up again and again till you get my outrage

https://www.google.com/amp/www.aljazeer ... 23279.html


My investments in Telecom companies went up if that makes you feel better. Easiest 20,000 dollars I ever made.

I guess I should have invested in telecom companies when I had the chance.
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My investments in Telecom companies went up if that makes you feel better. Easiest 20,000 dollars I ever made.

I guess I should have invested in telecom companies when I had the chance.

That was the first thing I did November 9th. I knew Net Neutrality was gone once Trump was elected.
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The arian nation wrote:as someone that actually lives in a country without any net neutrality or an equivalent.i want to show you the services that an internet provider offers over here.
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/h1hUgS/Screenshot_20180218_182512.png]Image)[/url]
([url=https://preview.ibb.co/gHVMvn/Screenshot_20180218_182527.png]Image)[/url]
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Freezic Vast wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:But silly peasant, high speed internet is a luxury for the rich. Not a utility for everyday citizens. *Nods*

That is not at all what we've been saying to you. Why is it this thread goes silent for a few days then all of a sudden you decide to pop back n and we go back to square one?

Because Flutter saying, “Okay I’ll stop,” is equal to, “I’ll be back in a few days when I’m mad again.”
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:46 am

Freezic Vast wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Try me. If it won't happen, why would those who can do it want the rules against it gone? Seems like saying removing rules against stealing wouldn't lead to more stealing.

Maybe because you're over-exaggerating the worst possible outcomes.

If you trust the likes of Comcast and Verizon I... I can't tell what to say anymore.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:55 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Maybe because you're over-exaggerating the worst possible outcomes.

If you trust the likes of Comcast and Verizon I... I can't tell what to say anymore.

More like I could care less, if it means people who are too cheap to spend a little bit more for something so "precious" as the internet, then I'm perfectly fine, it'll mean less idiots on the web.
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Luminesa wrote:Are you in...India? If you don’t mind me asking.

I live in iran
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