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Postby Valanora » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:17 am

The deadline for the 11th Hockey Champions League is a week from now. Reposting it here in hopes to get more participants and breathe some new life into the competition. As much fun as it is to constantly win, for the good of the tournament, there needs to be more entrants and competitiveness. That I am the only nation to enter the last five editions is a major factor in the rank disparity that is hampering the competition's health. Even when halving my rank and altering the scorination process to make the playing field more even, it is still resulting in skewed results. So I am asking the community to please enter into this edition and the coming ones to restore balance and competitiveness to the HCL, lest it fizzle out into nothingness for a fourth time.
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Postby Savojarna » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:57 am

I promise I'll enter, I just didn't get to do much about the SHS yet because I had a pretty stressful period in uni over new year's and haven't gotten round to do much scorination. I'll just not RP this season much and make sure to be in time for the cycle.

Aside from that: Are there already any ideas/prospects for the timing of the WJHC 14/WCoH 35 cycle?
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Postby Kep » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:17 pm

Kep has returned~
Hoping to inherit my rankings and hopefully my talents, >.<

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Postby -Anthor- » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:30 pm

Savojarna wrote:I promise I'll enter, I just didn't get to do much about the SHS yet because I had a pretty stressful period in uni over new year's and haven't gotten round to do much scorination. I'll just not RP this season much and make sure to be in time for the cycle.

Aside from that: Are there already any ideas/prospects for the timing of the WJHC 14/WCoH 35 cycle?

We could potentially do the WJHC before the upcoming/next DBC though I do know they are talking about cycle adjustments over there to accommodate the World Cup this summer.

Perhaps it would also be wise of us to look at potentially getting either the WCOH or WJHC going while the Winter Olympics are, could possibly get some people who watch the RL international hockey and then want to see how their nations do over here.
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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:31 pm

-Anthor- wrote:
Savojarna wrote:I promise I'll enter, I just didn't get to do much about the SHS yet because I had a pretty stressful period in uni over new year's and haven't gotten round to do much scorination. I'll just not RP this season much and make sure to be in time for the cycle.

Aside from that: Are there already any ideas/prospects for the timing of the WJHC 14/WCoH 35 cycle?

We could potentially do the WJHC before the upcoming/next DBC though I do know they are talking about cycle adjustments over there to accommodate the World Cup this summer.

Perhaps it would also be wise of us to look at potentially getting either the WCOH or WJHC going while the Winter Olympics are, could possibly get some people who watch the RL international hockey and then want to see how their nations do over here.

Yes good idea
I have a host bid planned for WJHC and I was planning to host solo but if anyone wants to host with me that may
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Kep
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Postby Kep » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:35 pm

Northwest Kalactin wrote:
-Anthor- wrote:We could potentially do the WJHC before the upcoming/next DBC though I do know they are talking about cycle adjustments over there to accommodate the World Cup this summer.

Perhaps it would also be wise of us to look at potentially getting either the WCOH or WJHC going while the Winter Olympics are, could possibly get some people who watch the RL international hockey and then want to see how their nations do over here.

Yes good idea
I have a host bid planned for WJHC and I was planning to host solo but if anyone wants to host with me that may
-Anthor- wrote:
Savojarna wrote:I promise I'll enter, I just didn't get to do much about the SHS yet because I had a pretty stressful period in uni over new year's and haven't gotten round to do much scorination. I'll just not RP this season much and make sure to be in time for the cycle.

Aside from that: Are there already any ideas/prospects for the timing of the WJHC 14/WCoH 35 cycle?

We could potentially do the WJHC before the upcoming/next DBC though I do know they are talking about cycle adjustments over there to accommodate the World Cup this summer.

Perhaps it would also be wise of us to look at potentially getting either the WCOH or WJHC going while the Winter Olympics are, could possibly get some people who watch the RL international hockey and then want to see how their nations do over here.

The WJHC makes more sense to host right now, at best you'll pull in 16-20 teams, making it easier and quicker to host rather than a hectic WCOH in which you'll be pulling in a heavy amount of traffic with a minimum of 32 teams.

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Postby Ontorisa » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:39 pm

whew, guess who's back after an extended hiatus?

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Postby Vilita and Turori » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:40 pm

Ontorisa wrote:whew, guess who's back after an extended hiatus?


kep?

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Postby St Saratoga » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:44 am

Kep wrote:
Northwest Kalactin wrote:Yes good idea
I have a host bid planned for WJHC and I was planning to host solo but if anyone wants to host with me that may
-Anthor- wrote:We could potentially do the WJHC before the upcoming/next DBC though I do know they are talking about cycle adjustments over there to accommodate the World Cup this summer.

Perhaps it would also be wise of us to look at potentially getting either the WCOH or WJHC going while the Winter Olympics are, could possibly get some people who watch the RL international hockey and then want to see how their nations do over here.

The WJHC makes more sense to host right now, at best you'll pull in 16-20 teams, making it easier and quicker to host rather than a hectic WCOH in which you'll be pulling in a heavy amount of traffic with a minimum of 32 teams.


WJHC during Winter Olympics & WCoH during NHL Playoffs(and Minn. State High School Tourney, #Tourney18)? I feel those time would be good because tons of ppl are watching hockey in that time.
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Postby Kep » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:25 am

Vilita and Turori wrote:
Ontorisa wrote:whew, guess who's back after an extended hiatus?


kep?

I'm right here.
Ontor's big gone longer than me dating back to the end of WJHC 12.

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Postby Ontorisa » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:46 am

Kep wrote:
Vilita and Turori wrote:
kep?

I'm right here.
Ontor's big gone longer than me dating back to the end of WJHC 12.


Oh what's up Kep? Long time no see.

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Postby Elejamie » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am

Ontorisa wrote:whew, guess who's back after an extended hiatus?


Welcome back, Ontie. And to Kep, even though you TG'd me asking for a few of my players and we already sorted it out.

Also, sign-ups for the 35th World Cup of Hockey are now open. Of course, I retired at the end of the 34th edition for things I don't really want to get into (but the condensed version is simply "I've lost all interest in the tournament"), but I figured I might as well spread the word so everyone knows.
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Postby Valanora » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:58 am

well eljamie beat me to the announcement as i was making my lunch. but yes, the signups are now open.
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Postby Elejamie » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:00 am

Valanora wrote:well eljamie beat me to the announcement as i was making my lunch. but yes, the signups are now open.


Sorry Val. :blush:
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Postby Valanora » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:49 pm

The rankings have been updated.
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WC 47, 51, 94, 97 (2nd), WC 34, 38, 39, 41, 44, 45, 53, 60, 67, 92, 95 (3rd), WC 49, 58, 87, 90 (Semifinalist), WC 33, 35-37, 46, 48, 54, 55, 62, 63, 65, 72, 83, 85, 86, 88, 91, 96, 98, 99, 100 (Quarterfinalist)
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Postby Elejamie » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:59 pm

Valanora wrote:The rankings have been updated.


Wow, despite two shite tournaments in a row I'm ranked first? Huh. Now I'm starting to have second thoughts about retiring from the WCoH; in fact, I'm going to miss this one (due to the Winter Olympics going on and not really willing to divide my time between two big competitions) and hopefully return for the 36th.

And no, I'm not complaining about the 33rd and 34th tournaments (although they did have problems), I was more talking about my guys' performance.

EDIT: Just to remind everyone that there's less than 48 hours before the deadline for World Cup of Hockey 35 host bids. So if anyone's interested in hosting it might be an idea to get something up as soon as possible.
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Postby Kep » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:02 pm

Feels nice to crack the top-25, Commissioner Rau Fregan can now take credit for doing nothing but increasing our rank xd.

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Postby Free Republics » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:25 am

World Cup of Hockey Federation wrote:
World Cup of Hockey Constitution, Version 1.01 wrote:[box]Constitution of the World Cup of Hockey Federation

1.1.3 Removal
i) Nations, excluding prior hosts, will be removed from the World Cup of Hockey Federation after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in two consecutive World Cups of Hockey.
ii) Prior hosts of a World Cup of Hockey will be removed from the World Cup of Hockey Federation after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in three consecutive World Cups of Hockey.


It appears I'm not currently listed as a member of the WCoHF but based on the above, I believe I should still be listed as a member. I last posted a roster in WCoH 33 so even if I wasn't a prior host of the WCoH, I believe that would apply. I did change primary WCoH nations from Saintland to Ilyseum to Free Republics over the years but normally membership has been associated with the user, not the nation.
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Postby South Covello » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Free Republics wrote:
World Cup of Hockey Federation wrote:


It appears I'm not currently listed as a member of the WCoHF but based on the above, I believe I should still be listed as a member. I last posted a roster in WCoH 33 so even if I wasn't a prior host of the WCoH, I believe that would apply. I did change primary WCoH nations from Saintland to Ilyseum to Free Republics over the years but normally membership has been associated with the user, not the nation.


Same here. Neither Gregoryisgodistan nor South Covello are listed as members even though I've posted at least a roster in every tournament since I've started (and am a prior host.) Perhaps whoever made the list is using a different definition of "participate" than what the Constitution says.

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Postby World Cup of Hockey Federation » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:22 pm

Free Republics wrote:Snip


I was operating under the entry to the WCoH Federation, thus you should have been a member for the last vote, however you failed to post a roster or RP for WCoH 34, therefore are not a member for this cycle. Which brings us to...



WCoHF Presidential Nominations

Members of the WcoH Federation may nominate one other user to be the WCoH Federation President for WCoH 36-38. Two nominations are required to be nominated and any user nominated may wish to decline the nomination. The nominations should be sent to Thalamascia by March 4th 2300 CST.
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Postby South Covello » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:23 pm

World Cup of Hockey Federation wrote:
Free Republics wrote:Snip


I was operating under the entry to the WCoH Federation, thus you should have been a member for the last vote, however you failed to post a roster or RP for WCoH 34, therefore are not a member for this cycle. Which brings us to...



WCoHF Presidential Nominations

Members of the WcoH Federation may nominate one other user to be the WCoH Federation President for WCoH 36-38. Two nominations are required to be nominated and any user nominated may wish to decline the nomination. The nominations should be sent to Thalamascia by March 4th 2300 CST.


Unless he also failed to post a roster in WCoH 33 and WCoH 32, he should be on the Federation.

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Postby World Cup of Hockey Federation » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:06 pm

Fair enough. Needless to say, FFR can't vote in this host bid but they can nominate someone for President. This whole thing is having me take a closer look at the constitution and wondering if there should be an amendment to better align the entry and removal process of Federation Members. This case shows just how out of sync it currently is, and while in this case it does not overly effect much with FFR bidding to host, it could do so in the future and might have done in the past. I am not certain if I will put a proposal forward but I do welcome discussion on ways that the Membership entry and removal might be better synced or the wording in the constitution made more clear.
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Postby Free Republics » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:05 pm

I'd actually be in favor of adopting a roster and an RP for both entry and removal even if it would probably have meant I wouldn't be a WCoHF member right now. I definitely see how the current language can be confusing.
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Postby South Covello » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:33 pm

I am making it known for the record that I will decline any nomination for President. Do not waste your nomination on me, please. I suggest others who would decline if nominated make this fact known now as well, so people can nominate others.

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Postby Elejamie » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:11 pm

South Covello wrote:I am making it known for the record that I will decline any nomination for President. Do not waste your nomination on me, please. I suggest others who would decline if nominated make this fact known now as well, so people can nominate others.


Ditto. I've served two terms already and have no interest in any more, especially if it means I end up being the proper president instead of the vice-pres. It also doesn't help that I'm skipping the 35th edition due to both a lack of interest and because the Winter Olympics are also going on at the moment and I'd rather do that (if I could think of something good to RP about), although I'm not ruling out a return for the 36th just yet.

P.S. Thanks to the Union of Socialist Alpine Republics for pointing out that there wasn't a "re-open host bids" option in the last WCoH Federation post; I've gone back and fixed that.
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