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Remember how Trump was supposed to be the best ally the LGBT community could ask for and Hillary was going to strip all our rights away because reasons?

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Lemonade stands are more lucrative in the long term, once you have a few thousand of them.


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Postby Seangoli » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:33 am

God damn, Trump's Infrastructure "plan" is a damn joke. I can tell you right now that many of the rural states will be less than enthused for footing the massive majority of the bill for a lot of this infrastructure they can't even afford in the first place. His 1.5 Trillion Dollar infrastructure plan is instead 200 billion earmarked federal dollars, with literally everything else being footed by the States and Private entities. This is going to screw Rural states and hard. Which, again, is Trump fucking over his constituents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/busi ... posal.html

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:33 am

Seangoli wrote:God damn, Trump's Infrastructure "plan" is a damn joke. I can tell you right now that many of the rural states will be less than enthused for footing the massive majority of the bill for a lot of this infrastructure they can't even afford in the first place. His 1.5 Trillion Dollar infrastructure plan is instead 200 billion earmarked federal dollars, with literally everything else being footed by the States and Private entities. This is going to screw Rural states and hard. Which, again, is Trump fucking over his constituents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/busi ... posal.html

I knew he'd fuck up the one thing I was hoping would be good from him.
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:40 am

Corrian wrote:
Seangoli wrote:God damn, Trump's Infrastructure "plan" is a damn joke. I can tell you right now that many of the rural states will be less than enthused for footing the massive majority of the bill for a lot of this infrastructure they can't even afford in the first place. His 1.5 Trillion Dollar infrastructure plan is instead 200 billion earmarked federal dollars, with literally everything else being footed by the States and Private entities. This is going to screw Rural states and hard. Which, again, is Trump fucking over his constituents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/busi ... posal.html

I knew he'd fuck up the one thing I was hoping would be good from him.



His final plan is only marginally better than what was being speculated on about a year ago. The actual reality is that a lot of the $200 billion is apparently just them reshuffling funds from already existing funds to a different fund that does the same thing. Literal lateral movement that accomplishes nothing.

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Postby Ism » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:44 am

Seangoli wrote:
Corrian wrote:I knew he'd fuck up the one thing I was hoping would be good from him.



His final plan is only marginally better than what was being speculated on about a year ago. The actual reality is that a lot of the $200 billion is apparently just them reshuffling funds from already existing funds to a different fund that does the same thing. Literal lateral movement that accomplishes nothing.


It’s almost like a con game or something.

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Postby Seangoli » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 am

Ism wrote:
Seangoli wrote:

His final plan is only marginally better than what was being speculated on about a year ago. The actual reality is that a lot of the $200 billion is apparently just them reshuffling funds from already existing funds to a different fund that does the same thing. Literal lateral movement that accomplishes nothing.


It’s almost like a con game or something.


Meanwhile he is claiming it's a $1.5 trillion dollar plan, because State, Local, and Private entities will be footing the 1.3 trillion dollars that the Feds don't.

It's a massive con-game.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:59 am

Corrian wrote:
Seangoli wrote:God damn, Trump's Infrastructure "plan" is a damn joke. I can tell you right now that many of the rural states will be less than enthused for footing the massive majority of the bill for a lot of this infrastructure they can't even afford in the first place. His 1.5 Trillion Dollar infrastructure plan is instead 200 billion earmarked federal dollars, with literally everything else being footed by the States and Private entities. This is going to screw Rural states and hard. Which, again, is Trump fucking over his constituents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/busi ... posal.html

I knew he'd fuck up the one thing I was hoping would be good from him.

I feel like a sucker thinking, “well okay, at least maybe that will get done, it’s been needed for years.” I mean, the pattern is right there to see...
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Corrian wrote:I knew he'd fuck up the one thing I was hoping would be good from him.

I feel like a sucker thinking, “well okay, at least maybe that will get done, it’s been needed for years.” I mean, the pattern is right there to see...

Yeah ... Here's a bit from Paul Krugman's column on this:

Paul Krugman in the NY Times wrote:Donald Trump doesn’t give a dam. Or a bridge. Or a road. Or a sewer system. Or any of the other things we talk about when we talk about infrastructure.

But how can that be when he just announced a $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan? That’s easy: It’s not a plan, it’s a scam. The $1.5 trillion number is just made up; he’s only proposing federal spending of $200 billion, which is somehow supposed to magically induce a vastly bigger overall increase in infrastructure investment, mainly paid for either by state and local governments (which are not exactly rolling in cash, but whatever) or by the private sector.

And even the $200 billion is essentially fraudulent: The budget proposal announced the same day doesn’t just impose savage cuts on the poor, it includes sharp cuts for the Department of Transportation, the Department of Energy and other agencies that would be crucially involved in any real infrastructure plan. Realistically, Trump’s offer on infrastructure is this: nothing.

That’s not to say that the plan is completely vacuous. One section says that it would “authorize federal divestiture of assets that would be better managed by state, local or private entities.” Translation: We’re going to privatize whatever we can. It’s conceivable that this would be done only in cases where the private sector really would do better, and contracts would be handed out fairly, without a hint of cronyism. And if you believe that, I have a degree from Trump University you might want to buy.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:04 pm

Seangoli wrote:God damn, Trump's Infrastructure "plan" is a damn joke. I can tell you right now that many of the rural states will be less than enthused for footing the massive majority of the bill for a lot of this infrastructure they can't even afford in the first place. His 1.5 Trillion Dollar infrastructure plan is instead 200 billion earmarked federal dollars, with literally everything else being footed by the States and Private entities. This is going to screw Rural states and hard. Which, again, is Trump fucking over his constituents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/busi ... posal.html


Well, you know what they say.

"You only get what you give."

Maybe now his constituents will realize they've made a mistake in voting for the Reality TV camwhore corporate slavemaster.
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Postby Ism » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:11 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Seangoli wrote:God damn, Trump's Infrastructure "plan" is a damn joke. I can tell you right now that many of the rural states will be less than enthused for footing the massive majority of the bill for a lot of this infrastructure they can't even afford in the first place. His 1.5 Trillion Dollar infrastructure plan is instead 200 billion earmarked federal dollars, with literally everything else being footed by the States and Private entities. This is going to screw Rural states and hard. Which, again, is Trump fucking over his constituents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/busi ... posal.html


Well, you know what they say.

"You only get what you give."

Maybe now his constituents will realize they've made a mistake in voting for the Reality TV camwhore corporate slavemaster.


Somehow, I doubt it.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Well, you know what they say.

"You only get what you give."

Maybe now his constituents will realize they've made a mistake in voting for the Reality TV camwhore corporate slavemaster.

Some, maybe, but I feel like there is at least a 25% chunk that will never budge, because even if they're blatantly being conned, they come back. I mean, look at all the people who fall for blatant scams.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pm

Ism wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Well, you know what they say.

"You only get what you give."

Maybe now his constituents will realize they've made a mistake in voting for the Reality TV camwhore corporate slavemaster.


Somehow, I doubt it.


*sigh* Yeah, me too.

But hey, we're flat broke, we just do it in style.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:14 pm

Corrian wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Well, you know what they say.

"You only get what you give."

Maybe now his constituents will realize they've made a mistake in voting for the Reality TV camwhore corporate slavemaster.

Some, maybe, but I feel like there is at least a 25% chunk that will never budge, because even if they're blatantly being conned, they come back. I mean, look at all the people who fall for blatant scams.


DarkSydePhil fans. *nod*
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:19 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Corrian wrote:Some, maybe, but I feel like there is at least a 25% chunk that will never budge, because even if they're blatantly being conned, they come back. I mean, look at all the people who fall for blatant scams.


DarkSydePhil fans. *nod*


Off topic, I know, but are there seriously actual fans of his, or are his "fans' there to meme him?

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:25 pm

Seangoli wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
DarkSydePhil fans. *nod*


Off topic, I know, but are there seriously actual fans of his, or are his "fans' there to meme him?


An excellent question that is difficult to answer, similarly to Donald Trump supporters.

I still can't tell if his supporters support him because they suppor this policies or if they're just here for the memes.

The medium is the most likely answers: the majority of their followers are there to troll them, but they do have the few who think they're 100% right about everything.

The real question is, who is Donald Trump's BrightSideViking? (TL;DR a weirdo who gave DarkSydePhil $800 a month until he got fired from his job presumably for being a weirdo DSP fan and proceeded to threaten to dox members of KiwiFarms for making a LOLcow article about DSP).
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:07 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Ism wrote:
It’s almost like a con game or something.


Meanwhile he is claiming it's a $1.5 trillion dollar plan, because State, Local, and Private entities will be footing the 1.3 trillion dollars that the Feds don't.

It's a massive con-game.

Chronic con artist playing a con game. Unexpected. Sadly, most of the common people will do goatse while praying to the God-Emperor and loyally vote GOP in 2018 and 2020.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:11 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.c ... llets/amp/.

Well that sort of talk certainly an't dangerous at all if you take it to It's logical conclusion...
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The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.com/national-security/nadler-russian-election-meddling-equivalent-attack-u-s-bombs-bullets/amp/.

Well that sort of talk certainly an' t dangerous at all if you take it to It's logical conclusion...

Only if the Russians help abolish net neutrality, duh.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:17 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.com/national-security/nadler-russian-election-meddling-equivalent-attack-u-s-bombs-bullets/amp/.

Well that sort of talk certainly an't dangerous at all if you take it to It's logical conclusion...


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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:20 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.com/national-security/nadler-russian-election-meddling-equivalent-attack-u-s-bombs-bullets/amp/.

Well that sort of talk certainly an' t dangerous at all if you take it to It's logical conclusion...

Only if the Russians help abolish net neutrality, duh.

I don't blame Russia for any dangerous policy that our Government has pushed.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:26 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.com/national-security/nadler-russian-election-meddling-equivalent-attack-u-s-bombs-bullets/amp/.

Well that sort of talk certainly an't dangerous at all if you take it to It's logical conclusion...


If interfering in a foreign government is equal to physical invasion then the U.S. is literally Hitler...

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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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