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Jutsa
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Postby Jutsa » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:41 pm

Does it relate to homeschooling and private schooling? If so, go ahead,
but I'd not mind knowing before I go ahead and make a draft for those, myself. :P

@Sacrifice: I honestly have no idea, let me check.

Edit: Er, can't find anything using ctrl+f, but it might not hurt to wait until someone else can confirm it.
Or you could write it and then scrap it if you find out one exists. :P
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Ransium
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:50 pm

It's much easier for IEs to answer these sort of questions.

#333 "No Sacrifice, No Sacrifice at All" (it does make some assumptions about religion, immigration, and state news though)
#58 "Violent Violetists Demand Blood!" also has some options that reversal sacrifice (that one is for nations that aren't mandatory atheists or have killed all violetists)

It is possible to get in a situation where human sacrifice cannot be reversed but it would take some effort. Still if you want to write an issue that doesn't make religious assumptions have at it, I say.
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:33 pm

I think Phydios may have meant a reversal for compulsory or government-endorsed human sacrifice, as in #058 2 / #243 4, rather than #058 1. I don't think we have an issue yet that addresses that explicitly, rather than as a side effect of an issue that's intended as ban vs grudgingly tolerate with the assumption that either way it's not a mainstream practice.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Phydios » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:15 pm

Thanks, everyone. I'm not planning on drafting any issues anytime soon- I don't have the time. I just want to get that policy off my nation, and I know that there's been some problems with linking policies into the issues system. :P As long as it's possible for me, I'm satisfied.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:04 am

I can't remember, are there separate @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ and @@RANDOMSURNAME@@ macros available now?
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Postby Singapore no2 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:18 am

Bears Armed wrote:I can't remember, are there separate @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ and @@RANDOMSURNAME@@ macros available now?

I dunno, but I always used @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@ as a macro instead.
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Conservative Democracy

Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:21 am

Any options that ban religion or classify religious belief as a mental disorder? I'm asking because I would like to write a follow-up issue.
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:49 am

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are... at least the former. Tbh, I'm not sure about the latter; that could be a good option to add if you want. :P
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:48 am

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:Any options that ban religion or classify religious belief as a mental disorder? I'm asking because I would like to write a follow-up issue.
#070 3 and #196 5.

There are, of course, other anti-religion options (most prominently #128 3, #172 3, #333 5, #363 4) that treat religion as stupid/incorrect without specifically emphasizing that it's a mental disorder to be "cured" (and only #333 5 is even an explicit ban, rather than just a discouragement, though I believe the game is currently coded so that "discouraging" religion enough eventually leads to an automatic ban policy even if that's not what you intended).

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:26 pm

Singapore no2 wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:I can't remember, are there separate @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ and @@RANDOMSURNAME@@ macros available now?

I dunno, but I always used @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@ as a macro instead.

Any of those are fine. We'll make it work.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:37 pm

Jutsa wrote:Not really sure. There are several options that instate private schools and homeschools, so I just kinda figured they could both use reversals. :P

Also, yeah, 723 definitely is along the lines of what I was thinking about. Not exactly, but there'd certainly be overlap.


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Zwxekdoegi
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Postby Zwxekdoegi » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:58 pm

Quite often, when I'm looking at an issue, none of the options are perfectly satisfactory, but I pick the best one there is. However, for issue #93, Affirmative Action in [country name]?, I actually have a pretty good idea for an option I want to be added. I'm not entirely sure of the wording, but I know the concept. Where should I ask, and how?
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:58 pm

Zwxekdoegi wrote:Quite often, when I'm looking at an issue, none of the options are perfectly satisfactory, but I pick the best one there is. However, for issue #93, Affirmative Action in [country name]?, I actually have a pretty good idea for an option I want to be added. I'm not entirely sure of the wording, but I know the concept. Where should I ask, and how?
Make a new thread for it, present your case, and be forewarned that it's an uphill battle.

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Zwxekdoegi
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Postby Zwxekdoegi » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:29 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Zwxekdoegi wrote:Quite often, when I'm looking at an issue, none of the options are perfectly satisfactory, but I pick the best one there is. However, for issue #93, Affirmative Action in [country name]?, I actually have a pretty good idea for an option I want to be added. I'm not entirely sure of the wording, but I know the concept. Where should I ask, and how?
Make a new thread for it, present your case, and be forewarned that it's an uphill battle.

I don’t even know how to word it yet or what unexpected effects it might have. I don’t think I’m prepared for this, honestly.
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:10 pm

Zwxekdoegi wrote:I don’t even know how to word it yet or what unexpected effects it might have. I don’t think I’m prepared for this, honestly.
Well, in that case, you can either wait a while, or you can post what you have (again, in a new thread) and hope another poster here will feel like helping you.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:31 am

Zwxekdoegi wrote:Quite often, when I'm looking at an issue, none of the options are perfectly satisfactory, but I pick the best one there is.


Honestly, that's the sweet spot that is generally being aimed for in writing issues.
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Azylon
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Postby Azylon » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:59 am

I would like an issue about funding chess to make it the national sport... and it should be a continuous issue thread there people rise up and demand how to respect the other faculties of sports too whether or not take part in the Olympic system or fund gymnastics at all or make gymnastics the first step of military service and so on... ;) Also the number of gym classes per week in the curriculum should also a matter of the issue thread ;) You can never be too healthy... XD Also eating junk foods should be considered a civil right just as writing scientific ideas from middle school

btw how many people in NationStates play chess? Could there be a NationStates lettermail chess tournament or such it shouldn't take up too much space if we involve our private e-mails... ;)

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:07 am

Azylon wrote:I would like an issue about funding chess to make it the national sport... and it should be a continuous issue thread there people rise up and demand how to respect the other faculties of sports too whether or not take part in the Olympic system or fund gymnastics at all or make gymnastics the first step of military service and so on... ;) Also the number of gym classes per week in the curriculum should also a matter of the issue thread ;) You can never be too healthy... XD Also eating junk foods should be considered a civil right just as writing scientific ideas from middle school

btw how many people in NationStates play chess? Could there be a NationStates lettermail chess tournament or such it shouldn't take up too much space if we involve our private e-mails... ;)


There's an existing issue that bans sports and encourages chess in place.

I've also drafted a chess-themed issue in the past which isn't yet published:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=390483

In the meantime, feel free to draft an issue on the above topic.
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:12 am

Pogaria wrote:
Singapore no2 wrote:I dunno, but I always used @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@ as a macro instead.

Any of those are fine. We'll make it work.

Thank you.
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
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Jutsa
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:40 am

Would it be ok to make a draft about Mrs. Gratwick?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:57 am

Jutsa wrote:Would it be ok to make a draft about Mrs. Gratwick?


Sure, why not.

Have to say though, I'm personally feeling that the Gratwick thing is quite "done" by now.
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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:40 am

The joke with Catherine Gratwick is that she keeps popping up in all sorts of different contexts, without any clear explanation of what exactly is up with her. Having an issue focussed entirely on her would ruin the joke.

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Jutsa
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:06 pm

Fair enough. I was going to have a draft that'd praise her for it, denounce her for it, and investigate cloning technology. :lol:
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:16 am

Jutsa wrote:Fair enough. I was going to have a draft that'd praise her for it, denounce her for it, and investigate cloning technology. :lol:


That sounds pretty funny, actually.
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:14 am

Trotterdam wrote:The joke with Catherine Gratwick is that she keeps popping up in all sorts of different contexts, without any clear explanation of what exactly is up with her. Having an issue focussed entirely on her would ruin the joke.
It’s generally funny or embarrasing solutions/non-solutions where she shows up
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