FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[Washington Resistance Army]

I personally have Centurylink,, I don't think there are really any other options, as I live in a rural area. No data cap, 50 down 4 up for 140 monthly. I heard stories on the internet about Comcast and how it is not very good, are those stories true?

I have Comcast and while I have no love for the company and their customer service makes me want to shoot people I can't really argue with the speeds.

[Galloism]

The fact that we need net neutrality rules and ISPs are fucking monopolies us a reason to get hysterical.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.c ... eline/amp/

Examples of the shit they pulled. The fact that they are now allowed to do this is unacceptable and intolerable. To not be hysterical feels like to be complacent.

ISP'S WEREN'T CLASSIFIED UNDER TITLE II UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2015.

WE MANAGED.

You ARE aware of the lawsuit that struck down the 2010 rules because they weren't allowed under Title 1, right? That the rules that were ultimately enacted under Title 2 were enacted under Title 1 until the court said they literally aren't permissible under Title 1, yes?

[The Flutterlands]

ISP'S WEREN'T CLASSIFIED UNDER TITLE II UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2015.

WE MANAGED.

You ARE aware of the lawsuit that struck down the 2010 rules because they weren't allowed under Title 1, right? That the rules that were ultimately enacted under Title 2 were enacted under Title 1 until the court said they literally aren't permissible under Title 1, yes?

This. The internet apocalypse will be upon us if the Courts do not overturn the Net Neutrality repeal and reclassification to Title I. If that happens the Courts will show themselves as traitors and enemies of the American people. This is indeed a black and white issues, net neutrality, you are ether with big business or you are with the consumers. Hopefully the Courts will listen to public opinion and stand on our side unless they wish to be our enemy.

[Galloism]

The internet apocalypse

Did you just use this phrase unironically in a sentence?

[The Flutterlands]

The internet apocalypse

Did you just use this phrase unironically in a sentence?

Yes. The end of net neutrality means the end of the internet as we know it, meaning this:

"Just $79.99/month for access to over 300 of the most popular websites! Don't see your favorites in the package? Add them for just $5.99/month each! Want streaming content? Standard definition streaming access is only $17.99/month additional, or get high definition streaming for $24.99/month extra!"

It will be cable tv 2.0

[Camicon]

ISP'S WEREN'T CLASSIFIED UNDER TITLE II UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2015.

WE MANAGED.

You ARE aware of the lawsuit that struck down the 2010 rules because they weren't allowed under Title 1, right? That the rules that were ultimately enacted under Title 2 were enacted under Title 1 until the court said they literally aren't permissible under Title 1, yes?

I am, but if you try in introduce nuance into the discussion then Flutters-

You ARE aware of the lawsuit that struck down the 2010 rules because they weren't allowed under Title 1, right? That the rules that were ultimately enacted under Title 2 were enacted under Title 1 until the court said they literally aren't permissible under Title 1, yes?

This. The internet apocalypse will be upon us if the Courts do not overturn the Net Neutrality repeal and reclassification to Title I. If that happens the Courts will show themselves as traitors and enemies of the American people. This is indeed a black and white issues, net neutrality, you are ether with big business or you are with the consumers. Hopefully the Courts will listen to public opinion and stand on our side unless they wish to be our enemy.

Oh, fuck me...

It's a not a substantive difference. The FCC has been trying to enforce some kind of neutrality principle since 2004, but the US was without what we would call net neutrality until 2015, when telecoms were classified under Title II and the FCC gained the authority to do what they've been trying to for the last decade and a half.

[Galloism]

Did you just use this phrase unironically in a sentence?

Yes. The end of net neutrality means the end of the internet as we know it, meaning this:

"Just $79.99/month for access to over 300 of the most popular websites! Don't see your favorites in the package? Add them for just $5.99/month each! Want streaming content? Standard definition streaming access is only $17.99/month additional, or get high definition streaming for $24.99/month extra!"

It will be cable tv 2.0

Have you ever considered that you're overreacting?

Losing NN is a bad thing, but it's not THAT bad. Most likely what we will see is anticompetitive business practices - cable companies throttling netflix or hulu and claiming it's all their fault, but we have a great TV package that works all the time.

[Galloism]

It's a not a substantive difference. The FCC has been trying to enforce some kind of neutrality principle since 2004, but the US was without what we would call net neutrality until 2015, when telecoms were classified under Title II and the FCC gained the authority to do what they've been trying to for the last decade and a half.

That's not quite accurate. When the FCC had the rules under Title 1, the ISPs generally complied with them. Verizon challenged them in court, but it complied while challenging them, and the FCC took enforcement actions along those lines for those who were not compliant.

Now, ultimately all those enforcement actions were reversed (because of the ruling), but for a while we had pretty decent net neutrality rules that ISPs WERE complying with, even if Verizon was challenging their validity while complying.

Title 2 was then enacted to do basically what the Title 1 rules did before being struck down (a little further, but not much).

[The Flutterlands]

Yes. The end of net neutrality means the end of the internet as we know it, meaning this:



It will be cable tv 2.0

Have you ever considered that you're overreacting?

Losing NN is a bad thing, but it's not THAT bad. Most likely what we will see is anticompetitive business practices - cable companies throttling netflix or hulu and claiming it's all their fault, but we have a great TV package that works all the time.

No. If we do not fear the worse, we become complacent and allow the slippery slope to take us to the worse.

I hope the courts rule against the FCC because this is a case where they are ether with the American People or against the American people and for corporate tyranny on the internet.

[Galloism]

Have you ever considered that you're overreacting?

Losing NN is a bad thing, but it's not THAT bad. Most likely what we will see is anticompetitive business practices - cable companies throttling netflix or hulu and claiming it's all their fault, but we have a great TV package that works all the time.

No. If we do not fear the worse, we become complacent and allow the slippery slope to take us to the worse.

I hope the courts rule against the FCC because this is a case where they are ether with the American People or against the American people and for corporate tyranny on the internet. This is an absolute.

I'm not sure if you're going to be disappointed or relieved when your crazy ass fears don't materialize.

[The Flutterlands]

No. If we do not fear the worse, we become complacent and allow the slippery slope to take us to the worse.

I hope the courts rule against the FCC because this is a case where they are ether with the American People or against the American people and for corporate tyranny on the internet. This is an absolute.

I'm not sure if you're going to be disappointed or relieved when your crazy ass fears don't materialize.

It may not happen immediately, but perhaps slowly when we have all but given up. It will get worse slowly till the American saps accept it as the new normal. This is why we need to get net neutrality back immediately within no more than the next three to four years.

[Irona]

No. If we do not fear the worse, we become complacent and allow the slippery slope to take us to the worse.

I hope the courts rule against the FCC because this is a case where they are ether with the American People or against the American people and for corporate tyranny on the internet. This is an absolute.

I'm not sure if you're going to be disappointed or relieved when your crazy ass fears don't materialize.

If we let this happen we’re basically saying we’re okay with regulatory capture.

[Camicon]

I'm not sure if you're going to be disappointed or relieved when your crazy ass fears don't materialize.

It may not happen immediately, but perhaps slowly when we have all but given up. It will get worse slowly till the American saps accept it as the new normal. This is why we need to get net neutrality back immediately within no more than the next three to four years.

Well, at least you're off the "violent revolution NOW" screed.

[Freezic Vast]

Let me say this once, before any mods come in and ruin this

DROP IT!!!

No more arguing over whether this repeal is "the end of the internet" no more of this hysterics from Flutter and no more antagonizing one another over this.

Again, END THIS NOW, IT'S DERAILING THE THREAD THE MORE THIS GOES ON!

Unless you have something to report on this issue, and not antagonize Flutters or one another, delete your post now and forget it, this has to end.

[Camicon]

Let me say this once, before any mods come in and ruin this

DROP IT!!!

No more arguing over whether this repeal is "the end of the internet" no more of this hysterics from Flutter and no more antagonizing one another over this.

Again, END THIS NOW, IT'S DERAILING THE THREAD THE MORE THIS GOES ON!

Unless you have something to report on this issue, and not antagonize Flutters or one another, delete your post now and forget it, this has to end.

I think Iffy put it best...

Sorry, who the fuck are you?

[Freezic Vast]

Let me say this once, before any mods come in and ruin this

DROP IT!!!

No more arguing over whether this repeal is "the end of the internet" no more of this hysterics from Flutter and no more antagonizing one another over this.

Again, END THIS NOW, IT'S DERAILING THE THREAD THE MORE THIS GOES ON!

Unless you have something to report on this issue, and not antagonize Flutters or one another, delete your post now and forget it, this has to end.

I think Iffy put it best...

Sorry, who the fuck are you?

Does it really fucking matter?

[Luminesa]

Let me say this once, before any mods come in and ruin this

DROP IT!!!

No more arguing over whether this repeal is "the end of the internet" no more of this hysterics from Flutter and no more antagonizing one another over this.

Again, END THIS NOW, IT'S DERAILING THE THREAD THE MORE THIS GOES ON!

Unless you have something to report on this issue, and not antagonize Flutters or one another, delete your post now and forget it, this has to end.

...You could always report Flutter too, you know, if he-or any of us-are bothering you this much.

[Camicon]

I think Iffy put it best...

Does it really fucking matter?

Little bit, yeah. I'm not inclined to listen to someone who, by all appearances, I don't know and is a new addition to the site.

You popping in to scold us all for jacking the thread about the FCC and net neutrality, when that's what we're discussing, smacks of misplaced self-importance and a need to control the actions of others when they don't conform to your expectations. I don't know anyone on NS that appreciates your kind of interjections. I know I don't.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and stop derailing the thread by telling us to cease speculation on the potential consequences, or lack thereof, of the FCC's decision.

[The Flutterlands]

I think Iffy put it best...

Does it really fucking matter?

Except I'm not doing anything wrong and discussing my justifiable concerns and fears about losing the open internet.

[Dylar]

I think it depends on where you live. I used to have it when I lived in a neighborhood and I loved it.

was there competition where you lived?

Eh, a little. Dish, AT&T, and Directv when it was still it's own company.

[The Flutterlands]

So Murphy's law doesn't apply to what could happen without net neutrality? I still think we must find a way to bring net neutrality back by force. Without it, ISPs basically get control of facts, knowledge and information on the internet. Imagine 1984, except it is the corporations controlling facts instead of the government, which the media kind of does already.

[Galloism]

I still think we must find a way to bring net neutrality back by force.

This is going to be the lamest revolutionary war cry I've ever heard.

[The Flutterlands]

I still think we must find a way to bring net neutrality back by force.

This is going to be the lamest revolutionary war cry I've ever heard.

So it is lame to protect your rights as if they are God given at all costs?

[Freezic Vast]

This is going to be the lamest revolutionary war cry I've ever heard.

So it is lame to protect your rights as if they are God given at all costs?

If your gonna ignore the rule of law and basically overthrow the government over something like the internet the yes.

[The Flutterlands]

So it is lame to protect your rights as if they are God given at all costs?

If your gonna ignore the rule of law and basically overthrow the government over something like the internet the yes.

As long as We have equal access to the internet, among other rights, I can care less.

Remember the heart of this. This isn't just about how fast our videos load, it's about the future of the internet as a platform for free expression, economic innovation, and exchange of ideas. It's about the future of our democracy.