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Postby Corantia » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:22 am

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Speaking of "control" take a gander I think this could be the beginning of the end for gun control.

http://reason.com/reasontv/2018/02/05/c ... un-control

People have been pounding old shovels into AKs in their garage (or unlit man-cave) since the 1960s.

I imagine it's easier to make a gun with precision machinery like this.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:04 am

Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:18 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:I'm not sure why that was quoted at me but they're probably referring to the European habit of having officers with long guns on foot patrol.

Long guns? If you mean military rifles, those are not that common with police forces. It depends on the individual European country, also you tend to see more heavily armed military police at airports, ministries and such.

Well considering that the term ‘long gun’ refers to rifles and shotguns, long guns, and at one point in time or another pretty much every rifle was a military rifle I would say that’s exactly what they mean.

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Republic of Keshiland wrote:So gun onwers what are YOU willing to give up to make sure that the School shooting where 2 kids died and 17 were injured never happens again?


>Taking away the constitutional right of dozens of millions that own guns for the benefit of two dead children
lolwut

Let the dead rest son.

Gig em Aggies wrote:Speaking of "control" take a gander I think this could be the beginning of the end for gun control.

http://reason.com/reasontv/2018/02/05/c ... un-control

3D STG 44 when?

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Speaking of "control" take a gander I think this could be the beginning of the end for gun control.

http://reason.com/reasontv/2018/02/05/c ... un-control

People have been pounding old shovels into AKs in their garage (or unlit man-cave) since the 1960s.

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:19 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

I mean do you think the cops in Bumfuck California and New York care if Jim Bobs rifle has pistol grip or not?
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:24 am

Alright fess up, who sold their soul for .44 magnum Ruger Mk IV clones
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I mean it wasn’t my soul...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:32 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:Absolutely fucking pathetic!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-w ... spartanntp

Did he ever actually sell any of the AP rounds?


Wanted to respond to this earlier but forget to. It doesn't matter if he did, the ATF and co just want to present something to make it seem like they actually do things.

18USC921(a)(17)(B) quite explicitly says the only restrictions on AP ammo are for handgun AP ammo, the rounds in question were .308's for a rifle. Even a public defender who spent ten minutes looking these things up could run circles around the ATF.

The bit of law in question for anyone interested
The term “armor piercing ammunition” means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
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Postby Dylar » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:35 am

Sovaal wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:People have been pounding old shovels into AKs in their garage (or unlit man-cave) since the 1960s.

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...Is that powered by vodka, blin?
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:37 am

Dylar wrote:
Sovaal wrote:
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...Is that powered by vodka, blin?

The only proper way to make an AK is to be black out drunk from vodka.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:46 am

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

I mean do you think the cops in Bumfuck California and New York care if Jim Bobs rifle has pistol grip or not?


We have firearms sanctuary cities...
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:15 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Did he ever actually sell any of the AP rounds?


Wanted to respond to this earlier but forget to. It doesn't matter if he did, the ATF and co just want to present something to make it seem like they actually do things.

18USC921(a)(17)(B) quite explicitly says the only restrictions on AP ammo are for handgun AP ammo, the rounds in question were .308's for a rifle. Even a public defender who spent ten minutes looking these things up could run circles around the ATF.

The bit of law in question for anyone interested
The term “armor piercing ammunition” means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.


Ten minutes strikes me as a high estimate of the attention span of your average public defender.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:16 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.


Non compliance of inane, bullshit, feel good do nothing laws is the correct path and it also makes sense on why there is such wide spread non compliance, after all spending $200+ on a stock and willy nilly turning it in and not getting compensated for the cost is most likely one of the main reasons other than the gratifying middle finger to the man.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:21 am

Telconi wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I mean do you think the cops in Bumfuck California and New York care if Jim Bobs rifle has pistol grip or not?


We have firearms sanctuary cities...

You just gave me an idea tell the president he'll give the democrats sanctuary cities* and anything that goes wrong is on them completely if they give republicans sanctuary cities for 2nd amendment loving people.

* not really just a little lie
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:19 pm

Corantia wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:People have been pounding old shovels into AKs in their garage (or unlit man-cave) since the 1960s.

I imagine it's easier to make a gun with precision machinery like this.

Not really... you don't even need to make straight cuts/bends and it'll still out-shoot certain other firearms

Next up: Minimum-effort home-built PSG-1 that out-shoots actual H&K PSG-1s.
-Because roller delayed blowback in a stamped sheet-metal gun built in your garage, what could possibly go wrong?

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

That, or bump stocks never were that popular to begin with.
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Postby Topoliani » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:23 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

Kek

Call me encouraging illegal activities, but I think stupid bullshit like this SHOULD be ignored
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:26 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Corantia wrote:I imagine it's easier to make a gun with precision machinery like this.

Not really... you don't even need to make straight cuts/bends and it'll still out-shoot certain other firearms

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

That, or bump stocks never were that popular to begin with.


Maybe not that popular, but a measly 3,000 of them in MA would mean compliance was 0.1%
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:28 pm

:D
Topoliani wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Despite Massachusetts recent ban on bumpstocks they've only had 3 of them (and one trigger crank) turned in after they sent out a letter to all licensed gun owners in the state telling them to turn em over or be punished with a sentence anywhere from 18 months to life in prison.

With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

Kek

Call me encouraging illegal activities, but I think stupid bullshit like this SHOULD be ignored


Martin Luther King Jr. encouraged illegal activities, and he has a day now...
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:33 pm

Telconi wrote::D
Topoliani wrote:Kek

Call me encouraging illegal activities, but I think stupid bullshit like this SHOULD be ignored


Martin Luther King Jr. encouraged illegal activities, and he has a day now...

Was kinda hoping you'd have quoted Henry Thoreau...

I guess he just isn't famous anymore.

Even though he himself was quoted by both MLK, Hemmingway and Ghandi.

Granted, HT's essay goes to great lengths to explain that by no means does this give an excuse to wrong someone or ignore social contracts simply whenever it suits you as "evil". As he was by no means an anarchist.

And just about anyone who mentions someone marching merely to the beat of a different drum.

I already have a day, it's called "today".
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:38 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Telconi wrote::D

Martin Luther King Jr. encouraged illegal activities, and he has a day now...

Was kinda hoping you'd have quoted Henry Thoreau...

I guess he just isn't famous anymore.

Even though he himself was quoted by both MLK, Hemmingway and Ghandi.

And just about anyone who mentions someone marching merely to the beat of a different drum.


I'm a huge Thoreau fan, but he doesn't have a day.
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Postby A alpaca » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

truly a broken society
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Postby Topoliani » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:40 pm

A alpaca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

truly a broken society

So, ignoring A, as in ONE, law nobody wanted = Broken, Somali, society?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:41 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:With this and the massive non-compliance rates in New York, California and Connecticut it seems like ignoring the laws is the new norm.

truly a broken society


Yup, and I wonder if it's fixable.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:45 pm

Telconi wrote:
A alpaca wrote:truly a broken society


Yup, and I wonder if it's fixable.

Simplest fix would be to abolish the law and legalize booze abortions weed bump-stocks.

Would make their current non-compliance into compliance, and current compliers would be unaffected.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:48 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Yup, and I wonder if it's fixable.

Simplest fix would be to abolish the law and legalize booze abortions weed bump-stocks.


Yeah, but bigots hate freedom so...
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:50 pm

Telconi wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Simplest fix would be to abolish the law and legalize booze abortions weed bump-stocks.


Yeah, but bigots hate freedom so...

Politicians used to be cool...

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Wut happened?

(... just got reminded of Churchill's apparent lack of "BIGOT" security-clearance leading to a... unique bit of dialouge.)
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Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:It was remarkable how much could happen in as little as fifteen seconds.
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