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Postby Donut section » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:32 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I forgot we were a peninsula.

It does feel a lot like an island sometimes.


Island or Ireland?
Cause there is lots of drunks, fights and drunks around here.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:37 pm

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Ifreann wrote:It does feel a lot like an island sometimes.


Island or Ireland?
Cause there is lots of drunks, fights and drunks around here.

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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:40 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=962267

This is the internet without net neutrality and I think Nationstates will be affected simply because it won't be able to pay the fast lane bribery enforced by the ISP thugs.

NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

Is NationStates actually on here or did I just waste my time?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:42 pm

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Ifreann wrote:NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

Is NationStates actually on here or did I just waste my time?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:42 pm

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Ifreann wrote:NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

Is NationStates actually on here or did I just waste my time?

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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:49 am

Ether way, by stripping away net neutrality, our freedom of access to the internet has been robbed from us in a fucked up undemocratic hiest. It was a looting by telecom companies and an evil fucked up FCC Commisioner who had no interest in engaging in the American People and actually should great contempt towards us. He did not care that his actions could ruin the internet by allowing ISPs to stifle the free speech and free expression that the American people are and should be entitled to on the internet. He did not care that ISPs could now block and throttle websites they politically disagree with or simply anyone who cares citizens them. Another reason why they might block NS, simply because we might criticize them or speak out against whatever government official they support.

If Net Neutrality was simply called "Free Access to the internet" instead, then I bet everyone would go on a riot, taking up arms against the tyrannical decision.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:08 am

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Ifreann wrote:NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

I forgot we were a peninsula.

That data was taken in 2010 though, so we might be a little bit bigger now.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=962267

This is the internet without net neutrality and I think Nationstates will be affected simply because it won't be able to pay the fast lane bribery enforced by the ISP thugs.

NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

I suspect that map needs an update.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:51 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Ether way, by stripping away net neutrality, our freedom of access to the internet has been robbed from us in a fucked up undemocratic hiest. It was a looting by telecom companies and an evil fucked up FCC Commisioner who had no interest in engaging in the American People and actually should great contempt towards us. He did not care that his actions could ruin the internet by allowing ISPs to stifle the free speech and free expression that the American people are and should be entitled to on the internet. He did not care that ISPs could now block and throttle websites they politically disagree with or simply anyone who cares citizens them.

He also kicks puppies and punches babies and loves Hitler.
Another reason why they might block NS, simply because we might criticize them or speak out against whatever government official they support.

Yeah, the government is terrified of a bunch of children saying that they're bad.

If Net Neutrality was simply called "Free Access to the internet" instead, then I bet everyone would go on a riot, taking up arms against the tyrannical decision.

Obviously wrong.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Ether way, by stripping away net neutrality, our freedom of access to the internet has been robbed from us in a fucked up undemocratic hiest. It was a looting by telecom companies and an evil fucked up FCC Commisioner who had no interest in engaging in the American People and actually should great contempt towards us. He did not care that his actions could ruin the internet by allowing ISPs to stifle the free speech and free expression that the American people are and should be entitled to on the internet. He did not care that ISPs could now block and throttle websites they politically disagree with or simply anyone who cares citizens them.

He also kicks puppies and punches babies and loves Hitler.
Another reason why they might block NS, simply because we might criticize them or speak out against whatever government official they support.

Yeah, the government is terrified of a bunch of children saying that they're bad.

If Net Neutrality was simply called "Free Access to the internet" instead, then I bet everyone would go on a riot, taking up arms against the tyrannical decision.

Obviously wrong.

1.) I wouldn't be surprised. He is obviously in favor of Corporations fucking us over?
2 ) The freedom of communication on the internet helps create uprisings like BLM, the Woman's March and Occupy Wall Street. The oligarchy may actually see all of that as a threat and try to silence us. Not to mention websites like Face Book and Twitter are trying to combat "Fake News" What makes you think they wouldn't do the same to target dissenting News? Heck Google is already doing that.
3.) People would have a stronger idea of what net neutrality is and a lot more people would be upset. Unless you think that people don't like having unlimited access to the internet...
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:18 am

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Ifreann wrote:He also kicks puppies and punches babies and loves Hitler.

Yeah, the government is terrified of a bunch of children saying that they're bad.


Obviously wrong.

1.) I wouldn't be surprised. He is obviously in favor of Corporations fucking us over?

Having different opinions than you about internet regulation doesn't make a person evil.
2 ) The freedom of communication on the internet helps create uprisings like BLM, the Woman's March and Occupy Wall Street. The oligarchy may actually see all of that as a threat and try to silence us. Not to mention websites like Face Book and Twitter are trying to combat "Fake News" What makes you think they wouldn't do the same to target dissenting News? Heck Google is already doing that.

NSG is not some hotbed of revolution that the government quakes in fear of.

You can tell because you're constantly begging us to agree with you about violently overthrowing the government("B-but I don't want to hurt anyone!") and no one ever does.
3.) People would have a stronger idea of what net neutrality is and a lot more people would be upset. Unless you think that people don't like having unlimited access to the internet...

People might care more. That doesn't mean they'll riot at your order.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:27 am

1) I would gladly call anyone who thinks corporations should control what I say and do on the internet an evil or at least ignorant person.
2.) Websites like the Intercept and other progressive newes sites could be attacked by ISPs. Most likely at the behest of Corporate news like MSNBC and Fox.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:31 am

The Flutterlands wrote:2 ) The freedom of communication on the internet helps create uprisings like BLM, the Woman's March and Occupy Wall Street.

Three problems:

1. None of those movements were uprisings.
2. NS had nothing to do with them.
3. None of those movements were very good.
The oligarchy may actually see all of that as a threat and try to silence us. Not to mention websites like Face Book and Twitter are trying to combat "Fake News"

Facebook and Twitter are not fighting fake news, they're supporting their own version.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:39 am

The Flutterlands wrote:1) I would gladly call anyone who thinks corporations should control what I say and do on the internet an evil or at least ignorant person.

Yes, clearly you will call people evil at the drop of a hat.
2.) Websites like the Intercept and other progressive newes sites could be attacked by ISPs. Most likely at the behest of Corporate news like MSNBC and Fox.

Sure, the evil ISPs will target small time websites that don't need a lot of bandwidth because they're just so evil. They won't demand money of bigger, richer websites, because all the evil corporations work together to destroy everything you love.
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The Flutterlands wrote:2 ) The freedom of communication on the internet helps create uprisings like BLM, the Woman's March and Occupy Wall Street.

Three problems:

1. None of those movements were uprisings.
2. NS had nothing to do with them.
3. None of those movements were very good.
The oligarchy may actually see all of that as a threat and try to silence us. Not to mention websites like Face Book and Twitter are trying to combat "Fake News"

Facebook and Twitter are not fighting fake news, they're supporting their own version.

1 ) Well, they have had people organize.
2.) I am no longer talking about NS but dissenting websites.
3.) I agree. They have mostly been pretty useless and have failed to grasp the real issues.
4.) I know. Which is why I put "Fake News" in quotation marks.
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/h ... ill-rights

There is no doubt in my mind that AT&T's "Internet Bill of Rights" will be nothing more than an Orwellian Scam just like title of the FCC's 'Destroying Restoring Internet Freedom Order'

No corporation can be trusted in making it's own regulations. It's in their nature to make as much profit as they can for their shareholders. So I can't see anything but AT&T giving us a mangled and Swiss cheese version of Net Neutrality no one will like.
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The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/hypocrisy-atts-internet-bill-rights

There is no doubt in my mind that AT&T's "Internet Bill of Rights" will be nothing more than an Orwellian Scam just like title of the FCC's 'Destroying Restoring Internet Freedom Order'

No corporation can be trusted in making it's own regulations. It's in their nature to make as much profit as they can for their shareholders. So I can't see anything but AT&T giving us a mangled and Swiss cheese version of Net Neutrality no one will like.


And yet corporations are better than governments...

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:35 pm

Donut section wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/hypocrisy-atts-internet-bill-rights

There is no doubt in my mind that AT&T's "Internet Bill of Rights" will be nothing more than an Orwellian Scam just like title of the FCC's 'Destroying Restoring Internet Freedom Order'

No corporation can be trusted in making it's own regulations. It's in their nature to make as much profit as they can for their shareholders. So I can't see anything but AT&T giving us a mangled and Swiss cheese version of Net Neutrality no one will like.


And yet corporations are better than governments...

Nah.
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Nah.

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Donut section wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/hypocrisy-atts-internet-bill-rights

There is no doubt in my mind that AT&T's "Internet Bill of Rights" will be nothing more than an Orwellian Scam just like title of the FCC's 'Destroying Restoring Internet Freedom Order'

No corporation can be trusted in making it's own regulations. It's in their nature to make as much profit as they can for their shareholders. So I can't see anything but AT&T giving us a mangled and Swiss cheese version of Net Neutrality no one will like.


And yet corporations are better than governments...

Well technically you're not wrong.
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Donut section wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/hypocrisy-atts-internet-bill-rights

There is no doubt in my mind that AT&T's "Internet Bill of Rights" will be nothing more than an Orwellian Scam just like title of the FCC's 'Destroying Restoring Internet Freedom Order'

No corporation can be trusted in making it's own regulations. It's in their nature to make as much profit as they can for their shareholders. So I can't see anything but AT&T giving us a mangled and Swiss cheese version of Net Neutrality no one will like.


And yet corporations are better than governments...


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And yet corporations are better than governments...


[citation needed


Both corporations and politicians have been known to act far, far outside the interests of the people, regarding most matters, the vast majority of the time.

On occasion, they will try to act nice, but that is usually an attempt to get the average person to believe that they will not immediately backstab everyone for their own gain after the fact, as both corporations and politicians do benefit from good publicity, and they are aware of this.

As with all things, there are exceptions, but they are very few and far between.
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