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Postby Donut section » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:31 pm

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Donut section wrote:I'm still going with government is less trustworthy than the private sector, so we should probably scrap all regulations, regulatory bodies and amend the constitution to make sure that they never can come back.


The problem is that regulations usually have a reason for existing. Hell no, the private sector can't be trusted to work within the public's best interests.

All that ever happens with deregulation is that the owners of capital privatize any gains and socialize the losses. Lessons weren't learned from the 2008 financial crisis and it appears that it will be allowed to happen yet again. The banks if allowed, are going to make the same casino capitalist bets that will tank the entire world economy and when bailed out- are going to write blank checks to failed CEOs and executives once again.


But without government who is going to bail them out?

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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:31 pm

Dysmastan wrote:So, I read that AT&T wants Congress to pass a net neutrality law. What do y'all think of this?

EDIT: Ninja 8)

Fake NN. Give me the same rules as Title II or GTFO. Nothing more, nothing less. No compromise with the enemy.
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Postby Dysmastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:34 pm

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Dysmastan wrote:So, I read that AT&T wants Congress to pass a net neutrality law. What do y'all think of this?

EDIT: Ninja 8)

Fake NN. Give me the same rules as Title II or GTFO. Nothing more, nothing less. No compromise with the enemy.


Can you elaborate please, maybe in an educational way?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:40 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Fake NN. Give me the same rules as Title II or GTFO. Nothing more, nothing less. No compromise with the enemy.


Can you elaborate please, maybe in an educational way?

I want the same rules that were reapeled by the FCC last year or something stronger (so scratch nothinh more). I will not accept any thing less that gives AT&T wiggle room for extortion
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Postby Dysmastan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:48 pm

You failed to elaborate. No more MLP for you!

I'd like it if you explained how you consider any net neutrality proposal from AT&T as fake.

They haven't produced any relevant proposal yet (from what I know).
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Postby Corrian » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:58 pm

Dysmastan wrote:So, I read that AT&T wants Congress to pass a net neutrality law. What do y'all think of this?

EDIT: Ninja 8)

I was vastly confused by this, but this particular line explains it all.

"For any big company, the only things worse than federal regulation are dozens of different state regulations."
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:44 am

Dysmastan wrote:You failed to elaborate. No more MLP for you!

I'd like it if you explained how you consider any net neutrality proposal from AT&T as fake.

They haven't produced any relevant proposal yet (from what I know).

Because anything they make is bound to have loopholes to get around the rules or just be generally weaker. It is to be expected from a big corporation making it's own regulations. I demand nothing less than all or nothing for Net Neutrality and I don't trust big telecoms to give it all.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:31 am

Dysmastan wrote:So, I read that AT&T wants Congress to pass a net neutrality law. What do y'all think of this?

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AT&T want good publicity.
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The Flutterlands wrote:
Dysmastan wrote:You failed to elaborate. No more MLP for you!

I'd like it if you explained how you consider any net neutrality proposal from AT&T as fake.

They haven't produced any relevant proposal yet (from what I know).

Because anything they make is bound to have loopholes to get around the rules or just be generally weaker. It is to be expected from a big corporation making it's own regulations. I demand nothing less than all or nothing for Net Neutrality and I don't trust big telecoms to give it all.


I don't trust any government involvement at all.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:56 am

Donut section wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Because anything they make is bound to have loopholes to get around the rules or just be generally weaker. It is to be expected from a big corporation making it's own regulations. I demand nothing less than all or nothing for Net Neutrality and I don't trust big telecoms to give it all.


I don't trust any government involvement at all.

That's because the government is often owned by corporations.
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I don't trust any government involvement at all.

That's because the government is owned the by the corporations.


No that's because it's a government.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:28 am

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Dysmastan wrote:So, I read that AT&T wants Congress to pass a net neutrality law. What do y'all think of this?

EDIT: Ninja 8)

I was vastly confused by this, but this particular line explains it all.

"For any big company, the only things worse than federal regulation are dozens of different state regulations."

Makes sense. Hiring one team of lawyers to to figure out how to get the most money without getting taken to court beats the hell out of having to hire fifty teams of lawyers.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:31 am

I think that the FCC will actually lose on the State Premption case. I don't think Ajit Pai can claim that the agency lacks the authority to enforce net neutrality while in the same breath claim to have the authority to basically outlaw net neutrality nationwide. That sounds like a legal paradox. I can't see how they can have it both ways. Congress, maybe, but not a lone federal agency.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:35 am

Aren't some states taking advantage of a loophole, too? I guess this is what happens when you rush job your net neutrality repeal.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:42 pm

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a70 ... 822ba143f4

Curse them, fuck them, damn them. Another demonstration that both parties are against the American people.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:55 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=962267

This is the internet without net neutrality and I think Nationstates will be affected simply because it won't be able to pay the fast lane bribery enforced by the ISP thugs.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:15 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=962267

This is the internet without net neutrality and I think Nationstates will be affected simply because it won't be able to pay the fast lane bribery enforced by the ISP thugs.

NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:20 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a70f13ee4b0be822ba143f4

Curse them, fuck them, damn them. Another demonstration that both parties are against the American people.

That is nothing of the sort.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=962267

This is the internet without net neutrality and I think Nationstates will be affected simply because it won't be able to pay the fast lane bribery enforced by the ISP thugs.

NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

To make more money of course. Ether way, everyone who can't pay the toll gets put onto the slow lane where they will fall under obscurity and likely cease to exist. You cant have fast lanes without slow lanes.
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Ifreann wrote:NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

To make more money of course. Ether way, everyone who can't pay the toll gets put onto the slow lane where they will fall under obscurity and likely cease to exist. You cant have fast lanes without slow lanes.

I don't know if you've noticed, but Nation States is a text based game. Fast lane, slow lane, makes no difference. So why bother demanding money of Max Barry that he'll never pay?
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Ifreann wrote:NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

To make more money of course. Ether way, everyone who can't pay the toll gets put onto the slow lane where they will fall under obscurity and likely cease to exist. You cant have fast lanes without slow lanes.


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:13 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:To make more money of course. Ether way, everyone who can't pay the toll gets put onto the slow lane where they will fall under obscurity and likely cease to exist. You cant have fast lanes without slow lanes.


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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:18 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=962267

This is the internet without net neutrality and I think Nationstates will be affected simply because it won't be able to pay the fast lane bribery enforced by the ISP thugs.

NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

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Ifreann wrote:NS is a pretty minor forum in the grand scheme of things. Why would ISPs bother trying to wring money out of our lord and saviour Max Barry?

I forgot we were a peninsula.

It does feel a lot like an island sometimes.
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