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Postby Kramanica » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:07 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I have not assumed anything. I stipulated in my post in which I provided the source that data from them should be taken with a grain of salt because they are highly innacurate.


Your entire premise is "the CBO has a history of inaccurate predictions ergo this is an inaccurate prediction". That is, by definition, an assumption.

I said it should be taken with a grain of salt.

What part of that do you not understand?

You're the one citing data from an innacurate body. If I cited you some study from Breitbart would you believe it? The fallacy of yours.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:43 pm

Related topic, what do we think of the admitted rise in Trump's approval ratings? What could we attribute it to, tax cuts, the SOTU (which generally only causes a slight tick briefly), or something else entirely? And do we think they're going to continue going up?

As for myself, I imagine with continued economic growth, Trump could regain some popularity if he keeps his mouth shut, but I also imagine that something will go wrong between now and the midterms that will again cause his approval rating to drop below 40% again.

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Postby Trumptonium » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:44 pm

trump should double down, the approval ratings will fix themselves.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:45 pm

Trumptonium wrote:trump should double down, the approval ratings will fix themselves.


Double down on what exactly?

I forgot to mention the shutdown, too. After the shutdown ended, even our local Democratic Party branch seemed to admit that it was going to take a small toll, but a toll nonetheless, on our party.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:47 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Related topic, what do we think of the admitted rise in Trump's approval ratings? What could we attribute it to, tax cuts, the SOTU (which generally only causes a slight tick briefly), or something else entirely? And do we think they're going to continue going up?

As for myself, I imagine with continued economic growth, Trump could regain some popularity if he keeps his mouth shut, but I also imagine that something will go wrong between now and the midterms that will again cause his approval rating to drop below 40% again.


I think the tax cuts and more money in people's pockets this year will have a lot to do with the rise of Trump's approval ratings this year, if there's any.

If DACA passes legislative muster under Trump there might be an even more pronounced approval uptick.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:50 pm

Trumptonium wrote:trump should double down, the approval ratings will fix themselves.


Yeah, double down on the wall he said Mexico was going to build.

*snicker*

Major-Tom wrote:Related topic, what do we think of the admitted rise in Trump's approval ratings? What could we attribute it to, tax cuts, the SOTU (which generally only causes a slight tick briefly), or something else entirely? And do we think they're going to continue going up?

As for myself, I imagine with continued economic growth, Trump could regain some popularity if he keeps his mouth shut, but I also imagine that something will go wrong between now and the midterms that will again cause his approval rating to drop below 40% again.


I'll be generous and say his followers are willing to overlook all of the idiotic things he's said and done.

That's going out the window when he opens his big mouth again.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:56 pm

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We got to fucking do something! People should go out and obstruct all efforts at destroying these national monuments.

Edit: Hopefully the Courts will strike it down.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:59 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:trump should double down, the approval ratings will fix themselves.


Double down on what exactly?

I forgot to mention the shutdown, too. After the shutdown ended, even our local Democratic Party branch seemed to admit that it was going to take a small toll, but a toll nonetheless, on our party.

Double down on the wall. It'll be twice as high and stretch across the ocean! All of South America will pay for it!
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:01 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:https://thinkprogress.org/trump-national-monuments-mining-bc92ca54db29/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

We got to fucking do something! People should go out and obstruct all efforts at destroying these national monuments.

Edit: Hopefully the Courts will strike it down.


Hopefully, they're not too corrupt to not strike it down.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:12 pm

Trumptonium wrote:trump should double down, the approval ratings will fix themselves.


No, they probably won't. These approval/disapproval ratings are like cured concrete. It's an extremely polarized electorate. There isn't much give.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:19 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:trump should double down, the approval ratings will fix themselves.


No, they probably won't. These approval/disapproval ratings are like cured concrete. It's an extremely polarized electorate. There isn't much give.


The guy has had shit approval ratings for the majority of his presidency for fuck's sake.

Also, 42% is pathetic even with "improved" ratings.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:24 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
No, they probably won't. These approval/disapproval ratings are like cured concrete. It's an extremely polarized electorate. There isn't much give.


The guy has had shit approval ratings for the majority of his presidency for fuck's sake.

Also, 42% is pathetic even with "improved" ratings.


He's lost most of the independent voters. He can't even get 90% of the GOP voters, and a bunch of them have already ditched the party officially.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:34 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The guy has had shit approval ratings for the majority of his presidency for fuck's sake.

Also, 42% is pathetic even with "improved" ratings.


He's lost most of the independent voters. He can't even get 90% of the GOP voters, and a bunch of them have already ditched the party officially.

The entire GOP is Baghdad Bobbing for Donnie. Good grief.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:54 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
He's lost most of the independent voters. He can't even get 90% of the GOP voters, and a bunch of them have already ditched the party officially.

The entire GOP is Baghdad Bobbing for Donnie. Good grief.


Latest Gallup poll (Jan 22-28) has his approval at 87% of the GOP, 33% of Independents and 7% of Dems. There's not a lot of give in these numbers over time either.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/pres ... trump.aspx
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:08 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Related topic, what do we think of the admitted rise in Trump's approval ratings? What could we attribute it to, tax cuts, the SOTU (which generally only causes a slight tick briefly), or something else entirely? And do we think they're going to continue going up?

As for myself, I imagine with continued economic growth, Trump could regain some popularity if he keeps his mouth shut, but I also imagine that something will go wrong between now and the midterms that will again cause his approval rating to drop below 40% again.


I think the tax cuts and more money in people's pockets this year will have a lot to do with the rise of Trump's approval ratings this year, if there's any.

If DACA passes legislative muster under Trump there might be an even more pronounced approval uptick.


Tax cuts should loose a little luster when people realize in April the cuts take effect next April...
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:16 pm

Vassenor wrote:The GOP tax cut is draining the Treasury even faster than expected

...So remember how the Cut Cut Cut Act was supposed to be the best thing ever for the economy?

It will be once the government figures out how to cut spending.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:16 pm

Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:20 pm


They were the only ones who thought it wouldn’t be.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:34 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:

They were the only ones who thought it wouldn’t be.


As a result some of Donnie's more rabid NS fans are a bit anxious too. I guess that's a problem with generating fake memos and faux outrage. Tsk tsk. :p
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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:55 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yes they do.


Source?

Pretty sure you were already given a source.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:07 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:

They were the only ones who thought it wouldn’t be.

Must be scary to look at reality from the outside.
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Postby Kramanica » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:07 pm


Wow, that sure is a thorough article.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:10 pm

When your own DoJ, the FBI, and Congressional Democrats tell you not to a release a memo for fear of jeopardizing national security and misleading the public, but you force the memo to be released anyway...fucking fat liar, so desperate to discredit Mueller’s investigation.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:11 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:https://thinkprogress.org/trump-national-monuments-mining-bc92ca54db29/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

We got to fucking do something! People should go out and obstruct all efforts at destroying these national monuments.

Edit: Hopefully the Courts will strike it down.

What is weird is the fact they didn't mine Bears Ears before it was made into one. There must have been a reason. And if I recall correctly, some of these things can take forever to process before they actually do anything.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:15 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:When your own DoJ, the FBI, and Congressional Democrats tell you not to a release a memo for fear of jeopardizing national security and misleading the public, but you force the memo to be released anyway...fucking fat liar, so desperate to discredit Mueller’s investigation.


Their desperation is palpable. There is definitely a severe fear of the truth coming out. Sad. So sad.
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