Friedrich Nietzsche

[Shikihara]

Very few authors are as (in)famous as Friedrich Nietzsche, who's most well known for his phrase "God is dead," misunderstood by many to be a declaration of the literal death of God. His reception by the Nazis and far-right has also added to his controversial reputation, with a lot of people keen to dismiss him as a raving syphilitic, while others insist that he has been misunderstood and unfairly portrayed.

What are your thoughts on this German philosopher? Have you read any of his works, and if so, what did you think about them?

Nietzsche is probably one of my favorite writers, mostly because he stands for a message centered around will and creativity in a period where mankind is suffering a crisis of values ("the death of God"). I think it's pretty fitting that a philosopher who proclaimed "there are no facts, only interpretations." should have so many diverse and contradictory depictions in the modern world.

[Khalmaria]

Very few authors are as (in)famous as Friedrich Nietzsche, who's most well known for his phrase "God is dead," misunderstood by many to be a declaration of the literal death of God. His reception by the Nazis and far-right has also added to his controversial reputation, with a lot of people keen to dismiss him as a raving syphilitic, while others insist that he has been misunderstood and unfairly portrayed.

What are your thoughts on this German philosopher? Have you read any of his works, and if so, what did you think about them?

Nietzsche is probably one of my favorite writers, mostly because he stands for a message centered around will and creativity in a period where mankind is suffering a crisis of values ("the death of God"). I think it's pretty fitting that a philosopher who proclaimed "there are no facts, only interpretations." should have so many diverse and contradictory depictions in the modern world.

Personally, I love the guy. He was a great writer and would of been much more beloved writer if he wrote in modern times instead of the Nazi era. It's unfortunately that people have associated him with being Nazi, because frankly he wasn't too fond of Hitler and his regime.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

Very few authors are as (in)famous as Friedrich Nietzsche, who's most well known for his phrase "God is dead," misunderstood by many to be a declaration of the literal death of God. His reception by the Nazis and far-right has also added to his controversial reputation, with a lot of people keen to dismiss him as a raving syphilitic, while others insist that he has been misunderstood and unfairly portrayed.

What are your thoughts on this German philosopher? Have you read any of his works, and if so, what did you think about them?

Nietzsche is probably one of my favorite writers, mostly because he stands for a message centered around will and creativity in a period where mankind is suffering a crisis of values ("the death of God"). I think it's pretty fitting that a philosopher who proclaimed "there are no facts, only interpretations." should have so many diverse and contradictory depictions in the modern world.

Personally, I love the guy. He was a great writer and would of been much more beloved writer if he wrote in modern times instead of the Nazi era. It's unfortunately that people have associated him with being Nazi, because frankly he wasn't too fond of Hitler and his regime.

Nietzsche died before the rise of Hitler. Nietzsche died before WW1 even happened.

[13 Necropolis 13]

Personally, I love the guy. He was a great writer and would of been much more beloved writer if he wrote in modern times instead of the Nazi era. It's unfortunately that people have associated him with being Nazi, because frankly he wasn't too fond of Hitler and his regime.

Nietzsche died before the rise of Hitler. Nietzsche died before WW1 even happened.

He died in 1900 CE.
I do recall reading that towards the end of his life, he claimed to be Polish. (What exactly this means, I don't know.)

I will say however, that he is one of my favorite philosophers.

[Khalmaria]

Sorry I misspoke. What I meant was that he probably wouldn't of been a fan of Mr. Nazi.

[Shikihara]

Sorry I misspoke. What I meant was that he probably wouldn't of been a fan of Mr. Nazi.

Definitely. He hated his brother-in-law who was a proto-Nazi.

[Khalmaria]

Sorry I misspoke. What I meant was that he probably wouldn't of been a fan of Mr. Nazi.

Definitely. He hated his brother-in-law who was a proto-Nazi.

His dislike only fuels my appreciation for the authors work.

[Shikihara]

Definitely. He hated his brother-in-law who was a proto-Nazi.

His dislike only fuels my appreciation for the authors work.

Indeed. Nietzsche leaned mostly to Lamarckian evolution, which the Nazis detested because it was incompatible with their belief in an inherent racial nature.

[Khalmaria]

His dislike only fuels my appreciation for the authors work.

Indeed. Nietzsche leaned mostly to Lamarckian evolution, which the Nazis detested because it was incompatible with their belief in an inherent racial nature.

I must say, your flag does not make you seem like a proper intellectual for this type of thread. Well done.

[13 Necropolis 13]

Sorry I misspoke. What I meant was that he probably wouldn't of been a fan of Mr. Nazi.

Definitely. He hated his brother-in-law who was a proto-Nazi.

I think I remember reading that.

Maybe that's what lead to Nietzsche claiming to be Polish? I suppose we can only speculate at this point.


In other news on the subject, a lot of people have quoted Nietzsche over the past... few decades or so. But not a lot of people really knew what he meant. (such as the "God is dead" quote, but I've seen a LOT more quotes. I'd actually say Nietzsche's most famous quote is probably "He who fights monsters must be careful, lest he become a monster himself, for as you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes back into you.")

[Shikihara]

Indeed. Nietzsche leaned mostly to Lamarckian evolution, which the Nazis detested because it was incompatible with their belief in an inherent racial nature.

I must say, your flag does not make you seem like a proper intellectual for this type of thread. Well done.

Yeah, I get that a lot.

My bookshelf is a bizarre hybrid with everything ranging from moé manga to books on Japanese nationalism and German idealism.

Maybe that's what lead to Nietzsche claiming to be Polish? I suppose we can only speculate at this point.

Not specifically his brother-in-law, but the chauvinistic German nationalism embodied in the Kaiser.

In other news on the subject, a lot of people have quoted Nietzsche over the past... few decades or so. But not a lot of people really knew what he meant. (such as the "God is dead" quote, but I've seen a LOT more quotes. I'd actually say Nietzsche's most famous quote is probably "He who fights monsters must be careful, lest he become a monster himself, for as you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes back into you.")

It's pretty sad how people choose to rip the provocative and "edgy" quotes out of context, while ignoring the sublime.

[Ethel mermania]

Brilliant man, one of the foremost interperters of classical philosophy.

Shame he wasn't bullied as a child, never would have had all this beyond good and evil nonsense.

[13 Necropolis 13]

I must say, your flag does not make you seem like a proper intellectual for this type of thread. Well done.

Yeah, I get that a lot.

My bookshelf is a bizarre hybrid with everything ranging from moé manga to books on Japanese nationalism and German idealism.

Nice.

In other news on the subject, a lot of people have quoted Nietzsche over the past... few decades or so. But not a lot of people really knew what he meant. (such as the "God is dead" quote, but I've seen a LOT more quotes. I'd actually say Nietzsche's most famous quote is probably "He who fights monsters must be careful, lest he become a monster himself, for as you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes back into you.")

It's pretty sad how people choose to rip the provocative and "edgy" quotes out of context, while ignoring the sublime.

That word there with the "e" isn't one I would use, but I digress.

A lot of his work WAS provocative. But that is part of what made it sublime. The world hadn't seen anything like Nietzsche before. And there is some evidence suggesting Nietzsche knew his works were provocative, what with his professed hatred for Christianity in a time where that was unheard of. (It was a very different time then.) But this shows that Nietzsche was brave, and willing to get his message across, no matter how much he might be despised for it. He was willing to defy the norm, and indeed his philosophy of the Übermensch centers on rejecting the norm and rising above it.

[Kurnugia]

Brilliant philosopher most definitely worth a read. He had some controversial thoughts though and no not talking about anti-semitism ect. (if anything he was semitophile). I personally do share his view on human existence and psyche.

[Bombadil]

As Kennedy said.. 'May you live i interesting times'.. Nietzsche certainly lived in such times, when the concept of God being the base of absolute morality was not just being challenged but alternatives were being put out. You also had the rise of Nationstates, the place and purpose of the individual within a state along with the struggle between predetermined fate over determined choice as expressed across music, from his friend Wagner, to philosophy and politics. The idea that history is the epic struggle of the individual, and what values a hero represents, is a strand of philosophy that Nietzsche ascribed to..

..and it's a debate still highly visible if not instrumental in modern politics and social discourse..

..but I prefer this quote by an influencer of his..

"World history is not the ground of happiness. The periods of happiness are empty pages in her" - Hegel.

[Len Hyet]

Very few authors are as (in)famous as Friedrich Nietzsche, who's most well known for his phrase "God is dead," misunderstood by many to be a declaration of the literal death of God. His reception by the Nazis and far-right has also added to his controversial reputation, with a lot of people keen to dismiss him as a raving syphilitic, while others insist that he has been misunderstood and unfairly portrayed.

What are your thoughts on this German philosopher? Have you read any of his works, and if so, what did you think about them?

Nietzsche is probably one of my favorite writers, mostly because he stands for a message centered around will and creativity in a period where mankind is suffering a crisis of values ("the death of God"). I think it's pretty fitting that a philosopher who proclaimed "there are no facts, only interpretations." should have so many diverse and contradictory depictions in the modern world.

Poor Nietzsche. He spends a lifetime arguing that simply because man has lost faith in god does not mean that life is worthless, and that the value of life can and must be found in the pursuit of life itself, in enjoyment and creation of the arts and sciences.

Then a hundred odd years later his work is used by edgy teenagers to moan that life is meaningless and "god is dead".

[Kibbutz Unions]

Very few authors are as (in)famous as Friedrich Nietzsche, who's most well known for his phrase "God is dead," misunderstood by many to be a declaration of the literal death of God. His reception by the Nazis and far-right has also added to his controversial reputation, with a lot of people keen to dismiss him as a raving syphilitic, while others insist that he has been misunderstood and unfairly portrayed.

What are your thoughts on this German philosopher? Have you read any of his works, and if so, what did you think about them?

Nietzsche is probably one of my favorite writers, mostly because he stands for a message centered around will and creativity in a period where mankind is suffering a crisis of values ("the death of God"). I think it's pretty fitting that a philosopher who proclaimed "there are no facts, only interpretations." should have so many diverse and contradictory depictions in the modern world.

I appreciate his writing style and his originality (As well as his personal character, in particular his staunch opposition to antisemitism) however I can't say I endorse a lot of his philosophical stances that I am aware of nor the overall vagueness of his intellectual work (That has too many different interpretations).

Interestingly enough though, Michel Foucault, arguably the philosopher who influenced me the most (Alongside Marx and Kant), considered Nietzsche to be his inspiration. So maybe I really should further examine Nietzsche's own work. (Compared to most other "Great Philosophers" I know Nietzsche arguably the least).

[Sovaal]

Very few authors are as (in)famous as Friedrich Nietzsche, who's most well known for his phrase "God is dead," misunderstood by many to be a declaration of the literal death of God. His reception by the Nazis and far-right has also added to his controversial reputation, with a lot of people keen to dismiss him as a raving syphilitic, while others insist that he has been misunderstood and unfairly portrayed.

What are your thoughts on this German philosopher? Have you read any of his works, and if so, what did you think about them?

Nietzsche is probably one of my favorite writers, mostly because he stands for a message centered around will and creativity in a period where mankind is suffering a crisis of values ("the death of God"). I think it's pretty fitting that a philosopher who proclaimed "there are no facts, only interpretations." should have so many diverse and contradictory depictions in the modern world.

Poor Nietzsche. He spends a lifetime arguing that simply because man has lost faith in god does not mean that life is worthless, and that the value of life can and must be found in the pursuit of life itself, in enjoyment and creation of the arts and sciences.

Then a hundred odd years later his work is used by edgy teenagers to moan that life is meaningless and "god is dead".

Is that not the fate of every philosopher to be misquoted by the unwashed mass?

[San Marlindo]

He believed in nihilism, which is a hopelessly pessimistic, depressing way to look at the world.

Nietzsche thought that right and wrong were subjective and the only moral values that mattered were those imposed on the rest of us by a select few ("supermen"). I disagree with him on all counts.

[Community Values]

Never read him, and can't talk about his beliefs.
I like the quote though.

[Shikihara]

He believed in nihilism, which is a hopelessly pessimistic, depressing way to look at the world.

Nietzsche was not a nihilist, rather he saw nihilism as a great crisis facing Western civilization that it needed to overcome.

I praise, I do not reproach, [nihilism's] arrival. I believe it is one of the greatest crises, a moment of the deepest self-reflection of humanity. Whether man recovers from it, whether he becomes master of this crisis, is a question of his strength. It is possible. . . . (Complete Works Vol. 13)

only moral values that mattered were those imposed on the rest of us by a select few ("supermen").

I have found strength where one does not look for it: in simple, mild, and pleasant people, without the least desire to rule—and, conversely, the desire to rule has often appeared to me a sign of inward weakness: they fear their own slave soul and shroud it in a royal cloak (in the end, they still become the slaves of their followers, their fame, etc.) The powerful natures dominate, it is a necessity, they need not lift one finger. Even if, during their lifetime, they bury themselves in a garden house!

Nietzsche, in his writings, makes a distinction between the German words Kraft (Force) and Macht (Power). The goal of the overman/superman is to sublimate the former into the latter, rather than trying to force everyone to agree with him.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

A good fundamental philosopher for modern worldviews.

I do agree with Ethel he should have been bullied more as a child.

[Kenmoria]

One of my favourite philosophers, and the one who most frequently sends me into a rage when anyone uses "God is dead" to signify something ridiculous. This week, one of my friends used that quote in reference to a vandal spray-painting on a church.

[Greed and Death]

His valuation of individualism is one of his strongest points.

A pity his sister tried to edit his works to make them sound nationalist.

[13 Necropolis 13]

He believed in nihilism, which is a hopelessly pessimistic, depressing way to look at the world.

Nietzsche thought that right and wrong were subjective and the only moral values that mattered were those imposed on the rest of us by a select few ("supermen"). I disagree with him on all counts.

I disagree. He did not believe in nihilism. His philosophy helped create existentialism. Which is a counter to nihilism.