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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:39 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/370920-trump-immigration-plan-hits-wall-of-opposition%3famp

Try to please everyone and you end up pleasing almost no one.


Please everyone? I will give you 2 million DACA people if you give me the wall?

Everyone hates it. The hard righters hate it for being too pro-immigration and the Democrats think It's too anti-immigrant. No one is happy. You can't make a deal that please everyone in this case.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:44 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Please everyone? I will give you 2 million DACA people if you give me the wall?

Everyone hates it. The hard righters hate it for being too pro-immigration and the Democrats think It's too anti-immigrant. No one is happy. You can't make a deal that please everyone in this case.

Just on the highlights I’m cool with it. Naturalize a bunch of dreamers if you let trump play with a wall that isn’t really feasible and won’t happen even without interference? Let me pretend to be put out by that while 2 million people can plan for a future.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:45 pm

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You can call him a racist, however it doesn't mean you are right though.


Really? Violating the fair housing act....the central park 5.....so what is he then?


He didn't violate the fair housing act at all. What about central park 5?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:47 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Really? Violating the fair housing act....the central park 5.....so what is he then?


He didn't violate the fair housing act at all. What about central park 5?

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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:48 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
He didn't violate the fair housing act at all. What about central park 5?

Settling out of court is proof of innocence.

Settling out of court is proof of settling out of court.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:57 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Really? Violating the fair housing act....the central park 5.....so what is he then?


He didn't violate the fair housing act at all. What about central park 5?


He was sued on violation.

You don't know about the Central Park 5?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:59 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Everyone hates it. The hard righters hate it for being too pro-immigration and the Democrats think It's too anti-immigrant. No one is happy. You can't make a deal that please everyone in this case.

Just on the highlights I’m cool with it. Naturalize a bunch of dreamers if you let trump play with a wall that isn’t really feasible and won’t happen even without interference? Let me pretend to be put out by that while 2 million people can plan for a future.


I used to think that way but I can see the wall turning into a bigger sink hole for money. "The wall is only part of the solution. Now we need to spend more on....."
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:01 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Settling out of court is proof of innocence.

Settling out of court is proof of settling out of court.

Donnie has a habit of settling out of court whenever he's sued, like during the Trump You case. Why settle if he did nothing wrong and there's no proof he did?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Just on the highlights I’m cool with it. Naturalize a bunch of dreamers if you let trump play with a wall that isn’t really feasible and won’t happen even without interference? Let me pretend to be put out by that while 2 million people can plan for a future.


I used to think that way but I can see the wall turning into a bigger sink hole for money. "The wall is only part of the solution. Now we need to spend more on....."

SWAT teams doing an Elian Gonzalez to Latino children all across the country, with some even pulling the trigger.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:04 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Settling out of court is proof of settling out of court.

Donnie has a habit of settling out of court whenever he's sued, like during the Trump You case. Why settle if he did nothing wrong and there's no proof he did?

Saves everyone's time.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:06 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Donnie has a habit of settling out of court whenever he's sued, like during the Trump You case. Why settle if he did nothing wrong and there's no proof he did?

Saves everyone's time.
If you had the choice between spending what could be multiple months in court or just giving the other person a fistful of dollars, which would you choose?

Donnie just wants to save everyone time. Sure, not like he tries to settle so cases can be dropped before his wrongdoings are exposed in court.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:08 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Saves everyone's time.
If you had the choice between spending what could be multiple months in court or just giving the other person a fistful of dollars, which would you choose?

Donnie just wants to save everyone time. Sure, not like he tries to settle so cases can be dropped before his wrongdoings are exposed in court.

We'll never truly know, I suppose, because he settled the cases out of court. Without a court case he cannot be guilty because of how the law works.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:10 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Donnie has a habit of settling out of court whenever he's sued, like during the Trump You case. Why settle if he did nothing wrong and there's no proof he did?

Saves everyone's time.
If you had the choice between spending what could be multiple months in court or just giving the other person a fistful of dollars, which would you choose?


Yes but it's more about avoiding a judgement against you. The next time you do the same thing; you open the door to penalties being added and those can get nasty.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:13 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Saves everyone's time.
If you had the choice between spending what could be multiple months in court or just giving the other person a fistful of dollars, which would you choose?


Yes but it's more about avoiding a judgement against you. The next time you do the same thing; you open the door to penalties being added and those can get nasty.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:50 pm

Dahon wrote:Not sure where this fits, as I'm not sure this guy has that loud a voice even in far-right circles, but posting anyway:

From Pat fucking Buchanan: Does democracy stop us from being white again? Then screw democracy and worship Trump forevermore! #MAGA


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:52 pm

Give some good news people I’m this close to exploding on Trump
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:53 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Dahon wrote:Not sure where this fits, as I'm not sure this guy has that loud a voice even in far-right circles, but posting anyway:

From Pat fucking Buchanan: Does democracy stop us from being white again? Then screw democracy and worship Trump forevermore! #MAGA


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So what’d you think of that
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:56 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Dahon wrote:Not sure where this fits, as I'm not sure this guy has that loud a voice even in far-right circles, but posting anyway:

From Pat fucking Buchanan: Does democracy stop us from being white again? Then screw democracy and worship Trump forevermore! #MAGA


An influential thinker, but not really a leader of sorts; basically we tend to view him as philosopher in a way.


So we're back to the point where someone can seriously promote ethnic cleansing without being laughed out of the room.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:00 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
An influential thinker, but not really a leader of sorts; basically we tend to view him as philosopher in a way.


So we're back to the point where someone can seriously promote ethnic cleansing without being laughed out of the room.

Humanity has declined.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:02 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:So what’d you think of that


The first thing I'd point out is that I don't seem him praising China anywhere in there, so I'm not really sure where that charge is made from; I will say I think he overstates Chinese power by calling them a Superpower, but he does note such is viewed from the eyes of the Chinese themselves, so it's a reasonable claim to make. The underlying theme of the article, meanwhile, is that of people being instinctively drawn to tribal ties over that of idealism. I find such an idea to be sound, and I think most people would too if they considered such objectively.
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Postby Seangoli » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:04 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/370920-trump-immigration-plan-hits-wall-of-opposition%3famp

Try to please everyone and you end up pleasing almost no one.


Please everyone? I will give you 2 million DACA people if you give me the wall?


I mean, if I were a Congress person I would draw a big red line around the Wall, and absolutely not vote for it. If they want to spend 25 billion dollars on increasing border security through infrastructure, increased personnel, security measures, equipment, etc., that's one thing. If they want to to spend 25 billion dollars to erect a thousands-mile long useless pile of concrete and steel that will rot away within a decade, and be damn useless almost from the start then I would tell them to screw off. The Wall is just the biggest waste of resources imaginable, utilizing funds that could actually be useful elsewhere. Any Democrat worth their salt would draw a giant line around the wall, and instead demand intelligent border security measures.

There are far, far better ways to spend a literal fortune.
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Postby Painisia » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:05 pm

Will Ben Shapiro become president in the future?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:06 pm

Seangoli wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Please everyone? I will give you 2 million DACA people if you give me the wall?


I mean, if I were a Congress person I would draw a big red line around the Wall, and absolutely not vote for it. If they want to spend 25 billion dollars on increasing border security through infrastructure, increased personnel, security measures, equipment, etc., that's one thing. If they want to to spend 25 billion dollars to erect a thousands-mile long useless pile of concrete and steel that will rot away within a decade, and be damn useless almost from the start then I would tell them to screw off. The Wall is just the biggest waste of resources imaginable, utilizing funds that could go to actually be useful.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:08 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:So what’d you think of that


The first thing I'd point out is that I don't seem him praising China anywhere in there, so I'm not really sure where that charge is made from; I will say I think he overstates Chinese power by calling them a Superpower, but he does note such is viewed from the eyes of the Chinese themselves, so it's a reasonable claim to make. The underlying theme of the article, meanwhile, is that of people being instinctively drawn to tribal ties over that of idealism. I find such an idea to be sound, and I think most people would too if they considered such objectively.

Well I don’t, as my “tribe” has be n irrelevant my whole life
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Postby Rostavykhan » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:25 pm

Painisia wrote:Will Ben Shapiro become president in the future?


If mighty midget actually gets into government at all, then it will be a sign that America truly is lost.

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So we're back to the point where someone can seriously promote ethnic cleansing without being laughed out of the room.

Humanity has declined.

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