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[War Gears]

The Romans had the right idea on how to deal with this.

Enslave the people you want to fuck?

This raises uncomfortable questions about Vercingetorix and Caesar.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

According to Jesus himself, sexual immorality (Adultery) is grounds for a divorce; I'm honestly confused as to where the motif came from myself as well.

I'd like to ask which verse that is from?

As for where it came from: Jesus speaks about marriage and divorce: “Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate,” (Mark 10:9).

[...]The "marriage no matter what" motif is a Christian thing,[...]

That is why I explicitly mentioned wanting to fix the marriage based on the love you have for one another.

[...] A cheater is no longer in love with you, the marriage is functionally over.

I reject both notions utterly.

[Luminesa]

Yes, and you tend to fret over incredibly small differences in ideologies.

Why not just call them "religions?" it's pretty damn confusing, people tend to associate "ideologies" with politics.

Mormonism and Catholicism are entirely different, you’re comparing apples-to-oranges. If I was to convert to Mormonism, I would be radically abandoning some very important core tenants of my faith. Your problems with Buddhism and Jainism boil down to, “Do I want Cheddar or Brie?”

Yes, I'm sure the existence of the soul, lineages, afterlife, and praxis are comparable to food choices.

Sure, I’m an emotional person, I won’t lie. But I’m still secure about what I believe.

No, you just resort to acting silly whenever conversations don't go in your favor.

hence why you’re still here acting as though I’m an unsophisticated child.

"Acting."

As in, you’re not the final authority on non-Western religions.

I don't claim to be. You're the one acting like you're the authority and I'm not a true Jain because I don't buy into your racist bullshit that's been used by Western imperialists for hundreds of years.

Furthermore, that quote still talks a fair bit about detachment, which makes it close to Buddhism.

That's because it's a Buddhist text.

“Cheddar or Brie” as in two different flavors of a pretty close set of ideas. One being sharper and one being a little softer and more vague in flavor.

Wow, that’s a lot of salt. Huh. Wall of smug and insecurity just got ten feet higher, Trump is jealous. Are you gonna sit there all night and call me a child? Because that’s pretty funny. Really, keep going. Let’s see what else you can come up with.

Aaaaaaaaand the bolded part means Parkus wins an Internet. We see your contempt for Western civilization showing up, and it’s stinking up the room. That had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation, and yet here you are, acting silly when the conversation doesn’t go your-wait.

[Oil exporting People]

As for where it came from: Jesus speaks about marriage and divorce: “Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate,” (Mark 10:9).

Matthew 5:32

In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving
for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and
whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

The New International Version translates the passage as:

But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for
marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and
anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

[Conserative Morality]

Enslave the people you want to fuck?

This raises uncomfortable questions about Vercingetorix and Caesar.

Vercingetorix wasn't a slave, silly. He was a prisoner. You would never execute a slave at the end of a triumph. That's a waste of your property.

[Conserative Morality]

daily reminder that west a best

[Luminesa]

The point is nobody cares

You apparently do, considering how personally you seem to take it.

when you should just pick one religion and stick with it.

There are a lot of people who spend their lives genuinely searching through multiple religions and ideologies, like St. Augustine.

Have to give you credit. You backtrack so much that you backtrack over your own backtracks.

I’m not taking anything personally, you’re cussing me out and calling me a child. I’m just smiling and nodding.

St. Augustine knew his own ideologies so well he wrote books describing them. Once again, your arrogance shows, as you compare yourself to St. Augustine. I haven’t backtracked at all, difference is St. Augustine was a serious philosopher and you’re not. You’re just some person on the internet trying to cover massive insecurities by calling-out every brand of ideology you’ve tried.

[Oil exporting People]

Enslave the people you want to fuck?

This explains a lot of Roman history, but no; the concept of Pater Familis, in regards to adultery.

[War Gears]

Are you gonna sit there all night and call me a child? Because that’s pretty funny.

That depends. Are you going to keep calling me "smug," as though you know what that word actually means?

We see your contempt for Western civilization showing up,

It's pretty telling that your idea of "contempt for Western civilization" is pointing out you're rehashing old imperialist-era stereotypes about Asian worldviews, rather than anything actually Anti-Western. But whatever, I'm sure you'll just pretend this is all a meme.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Why would you want to stay married to an adulterer?

People make mistakes, they should be allowed to atone for them.

Not all mistakes are equal.

I'd say that, unless you and your partner agree to be polygamous and have multiple sex partners, once you cheat on your partner it is quite hard to gain their trust back. What I'd tend to do at that point is either offer them the out to be in a polygamous relationship, which is easier for me, as I don't have to worry about cheating then and I hold a discrete and symbolic choice to sleep with someone else if I want to since they are now starting to sleep with other guys, or have them sign the papers of divorce.

Of course, a brutal prenup would be in order, too, where if she cheats she'd leave everything she brought into the marriage with me and she would end up with not a single damn thing on her name (or as far as the law allows). Of course, in the name of fairness, I'd be bound under the same prenup too to not cheat on her or have all my shit taken away on a divorce.

[Conserative Morality]

Enslave the people you want to fuck?

This explains a lot of Roman history, but no; the concept of Pater Familis, in regards to adultery.

That was rarely ever actually used. Romans fucked like crazy. Adultery went largely unpunished, even in the moralizing reign of Augustus.

[Luminesa]

Are you gonna sit there all night and call me a child? Because that’s pretty funny.

That depends. Are you going to keep calling me "smug," as though you know what that word actually means?

We see your contempt for Western civilization showing up,

It's pretty telling that your idea of "contempt for Western civilization" is pointing out you're rehashing old imperialist-era stereotypes about Asian worldviews, rather than anything actually Anti-Western. But whatever, I'm sure you'll just pretend this is all a meme.

Haha! Now you’re trying to tell me to get a dictionary! This is funny, keep going.

I am? Huh. You just sound extremely angry that I questioned your worldview. Get used to it.

[Oil exporting People]

That was rarely ever actually used. Romans fucked like crazy. Adultery went largely unpunished, even in the moralizing reign of Augustus.

I did say it was the right idea, but nothing of it in practice.

[Mattopilos II]

Could you explain, please?

Your abstaining from taking life is just part of your attempt to escape life, to escape this world, to deny it and yourself. It is the negation of life and all its qualities; it is the attempt to make life empty and hollow.

And yet, he still sees Buddhism in a more positive light than Christianity.

[War Gears]

Once again, your arrogance shows, as you compare yourself to St. Augustine.

I'm pretty sure I didn't compare myself to the achievements of St. Augustine, rather just pointing out your hypocrisy. But at this point, I guess it's my fault for not realizing you've been trolling for the past few pages. No one is unintentionally going to act as obtuse as you've been.

I'd like to ask which verse that is from?

It's a pretty well known verse, I'm surprised you've not heard of it.

This raises uncomfortable questions about Vercingetorix and Caesar.

Vercingetorix wasn't a slave, silly. He was a prisoner. You would never execute a slave at the end of a triumph. That's a waste of your property.

Thought he was executed years after the Triumph.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Once again, your arrogance shows, as you compare yourself to St. Augustine.

I'm pretty sure I didn't compare myself to the achievements of St. Augustine, rather just pointing out your hypocrisy. But at this point, I guess it's my fault for not realizing you've been trolling for the past few pages. No one is unintentionally going to act as obtuse as you've been.

I've been following this conversation.

Honestly, St. Augustine knew a lot of his shit and knew about different religions, what he didn't do was think of any of them as superior to his own (Christianity). He looked, analyzed, and made records of other religions, but never thought he'd be better served converting into one of them.

[Luminesa]

Once again, your arrogance shows, as you compare yourself to St. Augustine.

I'm pretty sure I didn't compare myself to the achievements of St. Augustine, rather just pointing out your hypocrisy. But at this point, I guess it's my fault for not realizing you've been trolling for the past few pages. No one is unintentionally going to act as obtuse as you've been.

I'd like to ask which verse that is from?

It's a pretty well known verse, I'm surprised you've not heard of it.

Vercingetorix wasn't a slave, silly. He was a prisoner. You would never execute a slave at the end of a triumph. That's a waste of your property.

Thought he was executed years after the Triumph.

What hypocrisy? I don’t hang in the cafeteria looking for religions I like, and neither did St. Augustine. And if you haven’t noticed, it doesn’t look like anyone else on the forum is taking you very seriously either. So keep calling me names, I won’t take them seriously unless you write them in iambic pentameter. :^))))

[Aillyria]

According to Jesus himself, sexual immorality (Adultery) is grounds for a divorce; I'm honestly confused as to where the motif came from myself as well.

I'd like to ask which verse that is from?

As for where it came from: Jesus speaks about marriage and divorce: “Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate,” (Mark 10:9).

[...]The "marriage no matter what" motif is a Christian thing,[...]

That is why I explicitly mentioned wanting to fix the marriage based on the love you have for one another.

[...] A cheater is no longer in love with you, the marriage is functionally over.

I reject both notions utterly.

#1.) The key phrase here is "love for one another", that requires reciprocity.....which no longer existed long before they act on their desire for extramarital sex.

#2.) Not only is that a naive way of seeing infidelity, in Islam, we have no sympathy for adultery.

When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female, they should receive one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.

— Sahih Muslim, 17:4191

Allah's Messenger awarded the punishment of stoning to death to the married adulterer and adulteress and, after him, we also awarded the punishment of stoning, I am afraid that with the lapse of time, the people may forget it and may say: We do not find the punishment of stoning in the Book of Allah, and thus go astray by abandoning this duty prescribed by Allah. Stoning is a duty laid down in Allah's Book for married men and women who commit adultery when proof is established, or if there is pregnancy, or a confession.

— Sahih Muslim, 17:4194

In islamic law, the appropriate punishment for infidelity is death.....God (swt) is great!

[Conserative Morality]

#1.) The key phrase here is "love for one another", that requires reciprocity.....which no longer existed long before they act on their desire for extramarital sex.

#2.) Not only is that a naive way of seeing infidelity, in Islam, we have no sympathy for adultery.

When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female, they should receive one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.

— Sahih Muslim, 17:4191

Well, that's a little off-kilter. I may not be an advocate for penalizing unauthorized adultery for married couples, but I can understand the urge, but unmarried couples?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

What hypocrisy? I don’t hang in the cafeteria looking for religions I like, and neither did St. Augustine. And if you haven’t noticed, it doesn’t look like anyone else on the forum is taking you very seriously either. So keep calling me names, I won’t take them seriously unless you write them in iambic pentameter. :^))))

*notices a lot of bags of coffee at your desk*

What are these then? Hm?

[War Gears]

I don’t hang in the cafeteria looking for religions I like,

Too much opportunity for food to be contaminated with meat.

it doesn’t look like anyone else on the forum is taking you very seriously either.

I don't mind. I've been on this forum for six years. After awhile, you learn it doesn't really matter.

[Luminesa]

What hypocrisy? I don’t hang in the cafeteria looking for religions I like, and neither did St. Augustine. And if you haven’t noticed, it doesn’t look like anyone else on the forum is taking you very seriously either. So keep calling me names, I won’t take them seriously unless you write them in iambic pentameter. :^))))

*notices a lot of bags of coffee at your desk*

What are these then? Hm?

COMMUNITY COFFEE.

*Jitters.*

IT’S AT THE SUPERMARKET.

*Twitches.*

[Luminesa]

I don’t hang in the cafeteria looking for religions I like,

Too much opportunity for food to be contaminated with meat.

it doesn’t look like anyone else on the forum is taking you very seriously either.

I don't mind. I've been on this forum for six years. After awhile, you learn it doesn't really matter.

Cool. Then you finally get my point. Or did you just run out of ammo? Either way, good job.

[Mattopilos II]

"Hey Matt, what did you learn in the thread today?"
"Apparently Catholics drink a lot of coffee"
"By fuck, knew you were still religious matey"
"DELET"

[Aillyria]

#1.) The key phrase here is "love for one another", that requires reciprocity.....which no longer existed long before they act on their desire for extramarital sex.

#2.) Not only is that a naive way of seeing infidelity, in Islam, we have no sympathy for adultery.

When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female, they should receive one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.

— Sahih Muslim, 17:4191

Well, that's a little off-kilter. I may not be an advocate for penalizing unauthorized adultery for married couples, but I can understand the urge, but unmarried couples?

Premarital sex isn't allowed in Islam.........