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by Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:27 am

by Kenmoria » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:28 am

by Community Values » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:30 am

by Greed and Death » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 am

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:06 am
Community Values wrote:I would agree, but make it a semi-presidential system, like Russia or Turkey, except the PM has a bit more power.
Multi-member districts with the threshold to get a seat being 2.5%
FPTP for the president.

by Purpelia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:13 am
Fartsniffage wrote:My perfect voting system would be one man, one vote. And I would be the man.

by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:13 am

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:20 am

by Purpelia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:46 am

by Forniphiliac Limbo of Inabilis » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:56 am

by San Lumen » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:05 pm

by Lalaki » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:07 pm

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:10 pm
San Lumen wrote:Whomever gets the most votes is elected no matter the office would be my perfect system while keeping the current government structure in the US. Perhaps expand the size of the house a bit though
And gerrymandering is illegal and done by a non partisan commission to ensure you dont have situations where one party wins the popular vote but not a majority in the legislature. This has happened three times in a row in Michigan, and in Wisconsin.

by San Lumen » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:12 pm
Thermodolia wrote:San Lumen wrote:Whomever gets the most votes is elected no matter the office would be my perfect system while keeping the current government structure in the US. Perhaps expand the size of the house a bit though
And gerrymandering is illegal and done by a non partisan commission to ensure you dont have situations where one party wins the popular vote but not a majority in the legislature. This has happened three times in a row in Michigan, and in Wisconsin.
Um ya know what would get rid of gerrymandering all together? A proportional representation system like single district PR, STV, or MMP. Why have FPTP and make gerrymandering illegal when you can a voting system where gerrymandering isn’t a feature

by San Lumen » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:12 pm
Lalaki wrote:I like what we have now, but with a handful of changes. The electoral college should be abolished, legislative redistricting should be controlled by a bipartisan commission and/or random algorithm, and we should have an alternative vote system instead of first past the post (meaning that if no candidate gets above 50%, a runoff election would be held between the two top finishers). While we're at that, campaign finance reform is absolutely essential. We've seen it before with the McCain-Feingold Act, and need only a majority on the Supreme Court who would uphold this legislation.
One particular far-reaching step I'd be willing to look at is multi-member districts for the U.S. House of Representatives. I think 435 members isn't enough to embody the interests of 300 million citizens. Some states, and several foreign countries, have it so each district sends multiple delegates to their legislatures. That might be something that we want to consider.
I'm against parliamentary systems on the premise that even if they are more efficient in terms of passing legislation, the people should have the right to elect their chief executive. I am also a fan of checks and balances -- and just about everything else in the Constitution.

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:14 pm
Lalaki wrote:I like what we have now, but with a handful of changes. The electoral college should be abolished, legislative redistricting should be controlled by a bipartisan commission and/or random algorithm, and we should have an alternative vote system instead of first past the post (meaning that if no candidate gets above 50%, a runoff election would be held between the two top finishers). While we're at that, campaign finance reform is absolutely essential. We've seen it before with the McCain-Feingold Act, and need only a majority on the Supreme Court who would uphold this legislation.
One particular far-reaching step I'd be willing to look at is multi-member districts for the U.S. House of Representatives. I think 435 members isn't enough to embody the interests of 300 million citizens. Some states, and several foreign countries, have it so each district sends multiple delegates to their legislatures. That might be something that we want to consider.
I'm against parliamentary systems on the premise that even if they are more efficient in terms of passing legislation, the people should have the right to elect their chief executive. I am also a fan of checks and balances -- and just about everything else in the Constitution.

by Lalaki » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:15 pm
Thermodolia wrote:San Lumen wrote:Whomever gets the most votes is elected no matter the office would be my perfect system while keeping the current government structure in the US. Perhaps expand the size of the house a bit though
And gerrymandering is illegal and done by a non partisan commission to ensure you dont have situations where one party wins the popular vote but not a majority in the legislature. This has happened three times in a row in Michigan, and in Wisconsin.
Um ya know what would get rid of gerrymandering all together? A proportional representation system like single district PR, STV, or MMP. Why have FPTP and make gerrymandering illegal when you can a voting system where gerrymandering isn’t a feature

by Lalaki » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:19 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Lalaki wrote:I like what we have now, but with a handful of changes. The electoral college should be abolished, legislative redistricting should be controlled by a bipartisan commission and/or random algorithm, and we should have an alternative vote system instead of first past the post (meaning that if no candidate gets above 50%, a runoff election would be held between the two top finishers). While we're at that, campaign finance reform is absolutely essential. We've seen it before with the McCain-Feingold Act, and need only a majority on the Supreme Court who would uphold this legislation.
One particular far-reaching step I'd be willing to look at is multi-member districts for the U.S. House of Representatives. I think 435 members isn't enough to embody the interests of 300 million citizens. Some states, and several foreign countries, have it so each district sends multiple delegates to their legislatures. That might be something that we want to consider.
I'm against parliamentary systems on the premise that even if they are more efficient in terms of passing legislation, the people should have the right to elect their chief executive. I am also a fan of checks and balances -- and just about everything else in the Constitution.
Um parliamentary systems doesn’t mean that. It’s literally just another word for congress. Congress, parliament, and assembly are all talking about the same damn thing.
What you are think over is a Westminster system. Which is not the only system. Look at the French legislature. It has checks and balances while having both a president and a prime minister

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:20 pm
San Lumen wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Um ya know what would get rid of gerrymandering all together? A proportional representation system like single district PR, STV, or MMP. Why have FPTP and make gerrymandering illegal when you can a voting system where gerrymandering isn’t a feature
then you would have situations were no one has a majority. Israel for example has never had a majority government in its history. The entire country is one election district and threshold to enter parliament is so low its nearly impossible for one party to get a majority.

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:23 pm
Lalaki wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Um parliamentary systems doesn’t mean that. It’s literally just another word for congress. Congress, parliament, and assembly are all talking about the same damn thing.
What you are think over is a Westminster system. Which is not the only system. Look at the French legislature. It has checks and balances while having both a president and a prime minister
I think we have a semantic difference. I've always thought that "Parliamentary democracy" (which is the Westminster system) is where a legislature selects the chief executive, but a semi-presidential democracy (as France is) can term its legislature a parliament without following the above definition.

by Major-Tom » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:25 pm

by Thermodolia » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:25 pm
Lalaki wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Um ya know what would get rid of gerrymandering all together? A proportional representation system like single district PR, STV, or MMP. Why have FPTP and make gerrymandering illegal when you can a voting system where gerrymandering isn’t a feature
To my understanding, MMP and STV would still be susceptible to gerrymandering because you still have to draw districts (even if proportion is better taken into account). And I don't think a single district PR system would work for America because there is an advantage to having a representative in government that understands the issues of your area, and whom you could contact on a personal basis. Making politics solely about party isn't the best strategy IMO.

by Anywhere Else But Here » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:27 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:My perfect voting system would be one man, one vote. And I would be the man.

by Trumptonium » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:28 pm
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