The Parkus Empire wrote:The people do not even have community dances anymore. They go to privatized establishments where dj's are gradually replacing musicians
Good DJ's are a form of musician.
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by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:19 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:The people do not even have community dances anymore. They go to privatized establishments where dj's are gradually replacing musicians
by The Widening Gyre » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:22 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:No, they cannot coexist. Regular people have stopped singing together.
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not going to defend against talk show radio style of attack.
by The Multiversal Communist Collective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:28 pm
Cekoviu wrote:It looks like you might be using the wrong version. Go to https://8values.github.io
by The Multiversal Communist Collective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:31 pm
Cedoria wrote:RIght, we're off topic. But I'm sorry that occurred with you. My own childhood was rather tame by comparison. I was lucky compared to many, don't think I don't know it.
by Aillyria » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:35 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:36 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:37 pm
The Widening Gyre wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:No, they cannot coexist. Regular people have stopped singing together.
... They most certainly still do.The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not going to defend against talk show radio style of attack.
The lady doth proteſt too much, methinks. Prithee, if thou haſt not a rejoinder than iche schall be forced to conclude that thy words are nought but Auſter's wend.
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:43 pm
by The Widening Gyre » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:44 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Widening Gyre wrote:
... They most certainly still do.
The lady doth proteſt too much, methinks. Prithee, if thou haſt not a rejoinder than iche schall be forced to conclude that thy words are nought but Auſter's wend.
I do not think you know what "protest" means in Early Modern English
by The Multiversal Communist Collective » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:45 pm
Aillyria wrote:So have you guys heard about the Deysha Hargrave case in Louisiana? What do you guys think about this? Personally, I see this as the bourgeois becoming more bold in enforcement of their hegemony. This will be common soon.
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:50 pm
by Arkolon » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:04 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Widening Gyre wrote:
To make a solemn declaration or vow - like declaring that you're not going to defend your argument.
I am not going to defend against unfalsifiable accusations. Nor am I going to defend the statement that people would sing and have community dances much, much more without automated music.
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:14 pm
Arkolon wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:I am not going to defend against unfalsifiable accusations. Nor am I going to defend the statement that people would sing and have community dances much, much more without automated music.
The nature of community song and dance has just shifted with economic developments. It is financially necessary to mass produce music in the way it is today, and even that is changing with streaming and other music platforms. Folk dances have been supplanted by music players, radio stations and night clubs, as music becomes more generalised but also more specific, with new styles appealing to avant-garde or alternative niches. People still sing, people still dance, but differently as they have a different attitude to music. Such is the result of the industrialisation and privatisation of music, a cultural product of a capitalist system. What you are yearning for is to go back to the tribal sense of community and music, but that is impossible without reverting to the tribal sense of society and economy.
by Aillyria » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:34 pm
The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:Aillyria wrote:So have you guys heard about the Deysha Hargrave case in Louisiana? What do you guys think about this? Personally, I see this as the bourgeois becoming more bold in enforcement of their hegemony. This will be common soon.
That's what happens without unionization. In my college, if any professor was treated that way, we could get the college blacklisted (and the college knows it). However, generally, it is only public school teachers who are treated like trash, not professors. Very, very sad.
I agree, under Trump, it may start becoming more common.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:47 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Arkolon wrote:The nature of community song and dance has just shifted with economic developments. It is financially necessary to mass produce music in the way it is today, and even that is changing with streaming and other music platforms. Folk dances have been supplanted by music players, radio stations and night clubs, as music becomes more generalised but also more specific, with new styles appealing to avant-garde or alternative niches. People still sing, people still dance, but differently as they have a different attitude to music. Such is the result of the industrialisation and privatisation of music, a cultural product of a capitalist system. What you are yearning for is to go back to the tribal sense of community and music, but that is impossible without reverting to the tribal sense of society and economy.
Ah, no, automation of music is less than a hundred years old, and it is not "financially necessary"
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Northern Davincia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:53 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Ostroeuropa » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:57 pm
by Democratic Communist Federation » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:17 pm
Aillyria wrote:It's pretty sad, especially that Mrs. Hargrave was arrested without having even committed a crime.
Eh, I think this is a trend that has nothing to do with Trump in specific. This is just the continued actualization of the capitalist ideology.
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by Cekoviu » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:59 am
The Multiversal Communist Collective wrote:Cekoviu wrote:It looks like you might be using the wrong version. Go to https://8values.github.io
Hi,
No, I used the right version. For some reason the browser didn't display it. However, when I refreshed the browser, all the results showed up. This semester, I am going to recommend that all the students who will be using NationStates for their term project take that 8values test.
by Ostroeuropa » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:06 pm
by Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:55 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:So Oprah is being talked about as the 2020 democratic candidate and taken seriously by pundits.
FYI, her face cream uses circumcised foreskins as an active ingredient. So she's now literally the face of the total lack of self-awareness our media has regarding misandry and mens issues. I want you to try and consider a candidate who used blood drawn from baby girls clitorises (As in the less harmful but still bad forms of FGM, this one is milder than circumcision, the prick to draw a drop of blood, rather than removal of tissue.) to rejuvenate their complexion being taken seriously by the media. Imagine them not even bringing it up as a weird thing to do.
Can you imagine the utter hysterics the media would be in if Trumps face cream was that? But Oprah does it and not even a mention.
This doubles up the lack of self-awareness among "Democrat" pundits in the media, seeing as they seem desperate to avoid the obvious suggestion, Bernie Sanders or another Justice Democrat.
But the specific thing here is, I think they ARE self-aware of the economic stuff they are trying to ignore and demonize. The sexism stuff? I genuinely think it's beyond their abilities to notice. While the shilling for various corporate democrats seems duplicitous and conscious, the misandry i'd wager is just who they are as people, and not a conscious decision to ignore it.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Democratic Communist Federation » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:26 pm
Cekoviu wrote:You have sociology students use NationStates?
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by The Parkus Empire » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:54 pm
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by Northern Davincia » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:09 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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