[IC] [TWI-Only] The League of TWI (Assembly)

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

“Indeed”

[Atnaia]

"Their past actions indicate a struggle which the League ignored until it became disastrous," Barburj said. "Then, instead of taking diplomatic efforts, members of this League acted in provocation of the situation. It certainly does not excuse what has happened with the investigators, especially the unfortunate death of the Corindi investigator, but I hope that in the future we all think long and hard about the difference between proactive pursuance of peace and reactive response and recriminations."

[Ter Natiour]

"So are you suggesting that we send more diplomats to receive answers, ask questions, and get to learn about the situation before doing something? So respond and do not react, right Honorable Delegate Barburj?" said Soup thoughtfully.

[Atnaia]

"No," Barburj said. "I'm saying that this situation was predictable, and had we acted proactively to step in and help the government of Charbagnia before this conflict escalated, we may have been able to convince them of a more peaceful resolutuon to their problems. Its too late for that now, but I hope we remember it for the future."

Barburj brushed an invisble speck from his jacket. "I'm disappointed to see that you are yet another diplomat content to villainize me and my people at a whim through assumption and derogation."

[Ter Natiour]

"No," Barburj said. "I'm saying that this situation was predictable, and had we acted proactively to step in and help the government of Charbagnia before this conflict escalated, we may have been able to convince them of a more peaceful resolutuon to their problems. Its too late for that now, but I hope we remember it for the future."

Barburj brushed an invisble speck from his jacket. "I'm disappointed to see that you are yet another diplomat content to villainize me and my people at a whim through assumption and derogation."

Soup sighs with disappointment in himself for coming out that way, "Okay, thank you for helping me to understand what you are saying and I didn't mean to sound like that. I was just trying to understand what you were saying and heard you correctly. Obviously, I did not. I don't know much about your people's history except like you said, from a textbook, and it doesn't say that much about your nation. I don't mean that to be insulting, it's just that Ter Natiour focuses more on it's region in History."

[Corindia]

"No," Barburj said. "I'm saying that this situation was predictable, and had we acted proactively to step in and help the government of Charbagnia before this conflict escalated, we may have been able to convince them of a more peaceful resolutuon to their problems. Its too late for that now, but I hope we remember it for the future."

Barburj brushed an invisble speck from his jacket. "I'm disappointed to see that you are yet another diplomat content to villainize me and my people at a whim through assumption and derogation."

"It's neither you nor your people being villianized, but the current Atnaian regime in power. Once again you try and trot out your, admittedly victimized, people to justify your actions which only serve to get them and other nations' citizens killed. This League will not stand for such pretensions, delegate. We seek peace in these halls, not meaningless diplomatic victories won through empty to turn of phrase to appease out handlers back home."

[Atnaia]

Barburj sighed. "I was not speaking to the chamber at large, nor was I using it as some sort of justification for anything," he said. "I was pointing out how Delegate Soup appeared to be suggesting that I was somehow claiming we should do nothing, based purely upon what nation I represent. Which, I will point out, is exactly what you are doing now. I have offered solutions, and am attempting to point out a lesson that we should all learn from. If we do not recognize our mistakes, we will simply make them over and over again. Simply put, every action taken by the League thus far in regards to Charbagnia has been a mistake. Either it has been too little too late or too much too soon. We seem to vacillate between passivity and aggressiveness with disturbing regularity. Ignoring that, especially for as petty a reason as a dislike for the Hegemonic government, is going to cause the eventual collapse of this organization."

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

Annoyed by Barburj’s moralising and condescension, and wishing to guide the conversation away from trivialities, Edmond ignored Barburj’s defense and inquired,” perhaps you might compose a resolution expounding your reasonable suggestions?”

[Atnaia]

Barburj chuckled. "No, I don't think I will. It's neither worth my time nor effort, given that I generally do not agree with any of the League's handling of this situation."

OOC: I legitimately, IRL, do not have the time to do so. I am writing 7000 words of essays, have an exam and an assignment due, have to apply for an extended loan, and am looking for a new job. RP is already enough extra for me.

[Athara Magarat]

"While in way would I support Mr Barburj here for his government's actions, I do agree that certain nations in the Isles are made the villains." Garbuja Hang said referring to many nations often being branded a terrorist state or communist threat by folks who had never set foot on said nations.

"And if I may notify, we have sent a diplomatic offer to Mr Weinreb. If he agrees to the terms, which regarding that he is said to be a cunning man who think with his brains unlike some of us, then we may not have to think of destroying the lives of people in yet another nation. If he does not, well..."

(OOC; here for more reference.)

[Noronica]

"While I agree with what has been said, I believe that the action taken by the Athara Magarati Government, while unannounced, is the best way forward. For us to both be diplomatic and ensure that as an organisation, we remain firm in our beliefs, we must be blunt and strong in these interactions. I propose that we give the Charbagnian Government a unified League ultimatum with a deadline to respond to our wish for peace. If diplomacy fails then we may consider our actions."

Rodger brought up a new proposal, "It is in this light that I would appreciate if other nations may agree to this resolution that I hope the League may send to the Charbagnian Government as our unified response."

Resolution 11: League demands for the return of peace and stability to the Charbagnian Federation
The Assembly of the League of the Western Isles

Reaffirming our desire to maintain the stability of the Western Isles and to ensure that the citizens of every nation may live in freedom and democracy,

Recalling that the League made a previous resolution on the 22 October 2017, authorising the peaceful and neutral investigation into the suspected Charbagnian chemical weapons programme,

Concerned by the sudden and unwarranted arrest and imprisonment of League investigators,

Deeply outraged by the brutal and horrific atrocity that was the massacre in the city of Helmwerder between popular movements and the Government Forces,

Saddened by the sudden death of the League investigator held in captivity in the Charbagnian Federation,

Demanding that the violence and tension between the Charbagnian Government, the country's people, and the League, must end for the sake of peace,

Hereby:
1. Strongly condemns the brutal violence in the Charbagnian Federation and the increased period of imprisonment for international League investigators.
2. Heavily encourages the Charbagnian Government to hand over all League investigators and their belongings, both personal and business related, with no exceptions.
3. Reaffirms that no political or non-affiliated party in the Charbagnian Federation should use, research, develop, produce, acquire, stockpile, retain, or transport chemical weapons, or any other weapon of mass destruction.
4. Encourages the Members States to support this united effort to prevent further aggression through diplomatic means.
5. Decides that the Charbagnian Federation shall apologise for their actions against the League and aggressively treating prisoners.
6. Decides that the Charbagnian Federation shall represent themselves at the League and shall be present in a diplomatic summit which shall be designed later.
7. Hereby declares a deadline of the 16 January for the Charbagnian Federation to agree to all terms presented in this resolution effective immediately.
8. Concludes that if the deadline is not met, the League shall convene to discuss further action.

Introduced by: Noronica on January 11, 2018

[Corindia]

Américo nodded in approvement.
"Corindia seconds the resolution"

[Belle Ilse en Terre]

“Belle Ilse en Terre heartily seconds the resolution.”

[Atnaia]

"I oppose the use of the term 'massacre'," Barburj said. "As we've noted, the protesters were armed as well. It does not limit the quote-unquote atrocity of the situation, but I would rather we avoid miscategorizing the situation in that way."

[Noronica]

“However, the resolution does not mention any specific side, merely stating that a massacre had occurred. I believe the mass indiscriminate killing of multiple victims counts as a definition.”

[Negarakita]

Purnama read through the resolution carefully before speaking.

"Do we know that the prisoners were treated aggressively in prison? People die in prison all the time and I feel more information is needed before such a statement."

He sighed and took a sip of his tea before continuing.

"The mention of a summit is equally vague. No date is provided, nor a location or even focus. They will not likely agree to something they know so little about. Them coming to the league is another thing I believe they may disagree with. For the most part, the league has shown itself to be fervently against their nation to the point of people calling for an invasion. I doubt they will wish for one person to face this storm alone where they will be alone and vulnerable. I would limit it to the summit and provide a concrete time and space for this. Not mentioned either are the military sanctions, which I believe were a good suggestion and could help to de-escalate the situation."

[Atnaia]

"The implication, via focus on the government of Charbagnia, is that the government committed an indiscriminate massacre. My preferred term would be the less loaded 'violence'."

[Noronica]

Rodger nodded his head to the delegate from Negarakita, “I agree that it should be noted about sanctions, however I must yet again disagree with this policy of taking the actions of an organisation from a few nations’ statements. I must stress that there are a large number of delegates here, and the purpose of an international forum is to voice your nation’s interests. If a message is unified then by all means, take it as an organisation-wide policy, but really, taking the few calls for war as a League-sanctioned invasion is silly. Denouncing the League time and time again is only going land us in the mud again and again until we can do no more than argue over the integrity of this organisation while large problems occur outside this building.” He turned to the rest of the room, “Would my colleagues agree?”

“Now, I should also add that the summit is vague as we want to allow the Charbagnian Government some leeway to agree on a location and time. I would say that demanding a set time or place would stress relations further. Therefore I believe it correct that we allow this to remain vague as it is obvious as to what shall be spoken about in said summit.” Rodger took a quick swif if his water, taking time to consider his next approach.

“Finally,” Rodger concluded, “I believe that from initial reports from those on the ground in the International District currently are saying that the body’s condition is,” he looked to the Corindi delegate apologetically, “in a very bad state. From what the morgue can tell us so far is that the body has received multiple puncture wounds and extensive bruising. So therefore I must say that this is not regular prison behaviour. However, if others agree then I could take it away?”

[Noronica]

Rodger suppressed a sharp exhale of breath, “Honourable deleagate, the statement within the resolution states, and I quote, ‘that was the massacre in th city of Helmwerder between the popular movements and the Government forces’. If this really is a large issue, then I will remove it, but I am wary of doing so as we must emphasise the brutality seen in the video from both sides.”

[Corindia]

"The term is fine, what happened was undoubtedly a massacre, regardless of the token arms possessed by one side. More appeasement and stalling is not necessary at this time."

[Atnaia]

Barburj's mouth became a thin line. He ran a hand over his shaved scalp. "I am neither stalling nor seeking appeasement," he said crisply. "I have simply noted that you have all become so blinded by biases that somebody must play devil's advocate or this organization will begin to run roughshod over the sovereignty of every state that a member state finds issue with. As far as I am concerned, we so often see the League fall into a stupor only to rise kraken-like to smash hamfistedly into storm-battered ships. The pattern needs to be recognized and broken."

[Corindia]

Barburj's mouth became a thin line. He ran a hand over his shaved scalp. "I am neither stalling nor seeking appeasement," he said crisply. "I have simply noted that you have all become so blinded by biases that somebody must play devil's advocate or this organization will begin to run roughshod over the sovereignty of every state that a member state finds issue with. As far as I am concerned, we so often see the League fall into a stupor only to rise kraken-like to smash hamfistedly into storm-battered ships. The pattern needs to be recognized and broken."

"You're doing both, you've been doing both, and you're doing it right now. Stalling actions like this against nations you're working with aren't playing devil's advocate, it's just advocating for your own needs over appropriate international government."

[Atnaia]

"This organization is not an international government," Barburj said, his voice cold. "The purpose of the League is not to govern it's member nations. That line of thinking spits upon the very concept of national sovereignty."

He looked around the room. "This is exactly what I have brought up several times now. Members of this League seem to be under misguided conceptions of what this body's purpose and powers are. I can't continue to sit by and see us undermine the very core of national unity. Each and every one of your nations is undermined just as much with every overstep and confused piece of attempted international legislation we make."

[Noronica]

Rodger felt his temper rise but he opted to trample on it, “Sir, I must say that the one thing that this organisation should be is one that works to end crises and diplomatically solve issues around the Isles. Right now this conversation has gone from Charbagnia to complaints over a lack of sovereignty. I must agree with the Corindi delegate that this is continual and distasteful. I am entirely sure that one would be able to complain by manner of speaking to the Press, or, might I ask that you speak to the wonderful team we have here in the League such as the Secretary General. This organisation, as I see it, has not in any shape or form changed my country’s laws or influenced any aspect of Noronnican life. I must say that this appears to be the same for many other countries represented here. In fact, any time that national sovereignty has been questioned, it has been staunchly defended by many. Might I use a failed resolution of mine to encourage international aid spending? The Honourable Delegate from Miklania among many others defeated it soundly, and that is what I believe you are unable to see sir. This happens from time to time and the situation is resolved quickly. However, this conversation has been drawn out for too long and I suggest we go back in topic to Charbagnia or we might yet see more violent protests while we are still ironing out your question of sovereignty.”

Rodger smirked when he concluded, his mood bolstered by the middle finger he held up proudly under the desk. International diplomacy at its finest.

[Corindia]

"This is a government, and it is in fact intended to be one.
Just because you associate the word government with your own highly specific definition doesn't make it correct. I'd be more than happy to say 'regulatory body' though if it could end your second attempt to delay procedures over re-defining a word to reflect your interests in the last half hour."