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Do you like your job?

Love it!
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21%
Hate it!
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Don't care, it pays the bills
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:52 am

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:05 am

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Hmmm rent-a-cops with machine guns?


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Postby Zottistan » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:57 am

More pressing than the fact that most people don't like their jobs is the fact that the jobs have to be done anyway. Tough tits, basically.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:28 am

Liriena wrote:Imagine supporting an economic system in which only a small minority is satisfied with the activity that consumes a sizeable chunk of their adult life.


We've reached the stage where people should be grateful they can have a job. If you complain about worker's rights nowadays, people may even mock you for being too "ungrateful" and "spoiled".

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:35 am

Liriena wrote:Imagine supporting an economic system in which only a small minority is satisfied with the activity that consumes a sizeable chunk of their adult life.


Taken another way, if you add the people who love their job to those who are apathetic you get 76% vs 24% for people not actively disliking their job and suddenly things look quite positive.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:37 am

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But lesbian interpretive dance theory is more popular than underwater basket weaving these days.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:43 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Liriena wrote:Imagine supporting an economic system in which only a small minority is satisfied with the activity that consumes a sizeable chunk of their adult life.

We've reached the stage where people should be grateful they can have a job. If you complain about worker's rights nowadays, people may even mock you for being too "ungrateful" and "spoiled".

Be as submissive to your corporate overlords as your wretched peasant ancestors were to their liege.


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Postby Luziyca » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:52 am

I am not currently employed, but I am a student at the University of Saskatchewan, so... yeah.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:54 am

Most jobs are either A. low-level menial jobs, or B. jobs where you're still struggling to reach the point where you can enjoy what you love about your job.
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Postby Luziyca » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:56 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Most jobs are either A. low-level menial jobs, or B. jobs where you're still struggling to reach the point where you can enjoy what you love about your job.

Or C. Jobs that you initially loved or loved one time, but then it becomes incredibly tedious.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:58 am

Luziyca wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Most jobs are either A. low-level menial jobs, or B. jobs where you're still struggling to reach the point where you can enjoy what you love about your job.

Or C. Jobs that you initially loved or loved one time, but then it becomes incredibly tedious.

Forgot about those.
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Postby Community Values » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:25 am

Liriena wrote:Imagine supporting an economic system in which only a small minority is satisfied with the activity that consumes a sizeable chunk of their adult life.

is there a political system where no one has to work?
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:55 am

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
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Isn't that literally what a job is though? You selling bodily autonomy for a period of time?


Every job does this to some non-zero extent, yes. In that sense, I consider every job (and capitalism as a whole) inauthentic. It's more like a spectrum of inauthenticity to me though. I could have been clearer on that. A military job ranks very highly on the spectrum of inauthenticity because I am signing my body and mind away for a guaranteed period of time. The military attempts to engrain a certain psychological and political disposition in its soldiers, as well as obviously determining where your body is and what it should be doing, and I find that combination extremely horrific. I want to be able to think whatever I want to, and express those thoughts, within legal boundaries. My ideal job would be something like a researcher or a professor, where independent thinking is a necessary element of my job, and my bodily autonomy is not so compromised. Of course, I would have to show up to department meetings and classes, which would still constitute a form of bodily oppression.

I would hardly call showing up to a class bodily oppression, the entire concept f a job is performing a task in exchange for money. It is a voluntary exchange, or else it would be slavery, and therefore is not really oppression but giving up one positive (freedom) for another that is more beneficial.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:10 am

Community Values wrote:
Liriena wrote:Imagine supporting an economic system in which only a small minority is satisfied with the activity that consumes a sizeable chunk of their adult life.

is there a political system where no one has to work?


Hunter-gathering has the lowest percentage of time spent doing what we'd call work of any system ever to exist.
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Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:15 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Community Values wrote:is there a political system where no one has to work?

Hunter-gathering has the lowest percentage of time spent doing what we'd call work of any system ever to exist.

The endless hours necessary in order to create flint axes should be considered hobby time, as well as the time invested in cooking, sewing clothes and other domestic affairs.


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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:42 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:Hunter-gathering has the lowest percentage of time spent doing what we'd call work of any system ever to exist.

The endless hours necessary in order to create flint axes should be considered hobby time, as well as the time invested in cooking, sewing clothes and other domestic affairs.


Apart from the axes, we count all of that in free time now.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Postby Anime North America » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:44 am

Eh, doesn't surprise me. One oughta work to live, not live to work.
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Postby Aellex » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:51 am

Why would you love your work? It's not supposed to be something fun or enjoyable but a duty you perform to make a living.
It's always better if you find it interesting or at least do not downright hates it but in the end, you're still in just for the money.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:07 pm

San Marlindo wrote:I was reading an article the other day which referenced a Gallup poll undertaken four years ago which showed that only 13% of people worldwide love their jobs, finding their work meaningful and look forward to it every day.

A staggering 63% of people were apathetic towards their jobs.

24% of people hated their jobs.

Personally I loved the last full time job I had. Looked forward to it every day. It made me happy about my life knowing I could get up in the morning, breath that fresh air, stay on my feet for eight hours, and get paid for it.

I've also worked jobs I was utterly apathetic towards, like the one in the cubicle. It was difficult trying to learn new skills in this job and the long, sedentary hours to which I was poorly accustomed had an adverse effect on my health and morale.

So I know what it's like to be on both sides of the fence. I know from firsthand experience that those who hate/are apathetic towards their jobs are likely to suffer from poor job performance.

My opinion is that it's a travesty that 63% of people don't care about their work, and 24% actively hate it - which is considerably more people than the number who love their jobs. I'm amazed by the fact that it is such a tiny minority of people who like their jobs. Tiny!!

What do you say NSG? Is it believable that less than 15% of the working population like what they do? Do you like your job? If you hate it/are apathetic towards it, care to share why? And whether you have a dream job you'd rather be doing instead?

I always made a distinction between my work and my job. I liked my work quite a bit, problem-solving, coding, testing. As time when by, I came to loathe my job, office politics, the constant shipping of jobs overseas, the whittling down of support of complex systems by the client. And I hated being on call. So the poll numbers don't surprise me much.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:20 pm

Aellex wrote:Why would you love your work? It's not supposed to be something fun or enjoyable but a duty you perform to make a living.
It's always better if you find it interesting or at least do not downright hates it but in the end, you're still in just for the money.


Basically this. I find my job engaging, and the work is often rewarding, but I sure as hell wouldn't continue doing it if I suddenly had unlimited money.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:12 pm

Aellex wrote:Why would you love your work? It's not supposed to be something fun or enjoyable but a duty you perform to make a living.
It's always better if you find it interesting or at least do not downright hates it but in the end, you're still in just for the money.

I know this may come as a shock to you, but some people actually manage to make doing what they enjoy pay. Hell, most people go into the sciences because they enjoy "doing science": discovering things, making sense of them, telling others about them. Same for many successful artists, actors, and athletes: they want to do those jobs. There are even people who like flying airplanes, driving trucks, and constructing buildings.

Many of those sorts of people in those professions would keep doing it even if they had piles of money; just ask any of the multi-millionaire actors or athletes. My wife works with a 73-year-old scientist. He could have retired with a substantial pension years ago. But he didn't because he loves what he's doing.

See also: Self-actualization, especially as Maslow uses the term; one of his original uses of his "hierarchy of needs" was figuring out why people are (not) motivated to work.
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Postby Donut section » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:43 pm

Jeez am I the only one on this site who can find something to enjoy at work?

Or do people have massive expectations that are so unrealistic that any deviation is a depression level event?

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Postby Chestaan » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:18 pm

I'm surprised the number is as high as 13%. A huge problem with jobs today is that people can't see what their contribution is, or if they can they don't see it as anything meaningful. I think the only job I would genuinely love would be shooting as a professional target archer. I had a job working in hedge fund admin, and it was just so pointless and mind-numbing. I can't see how anyone would enjoy that work. At the minute I'm doing a PHD and teaching on the side. I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. The end goal is to work as little as possible and do what I enjoy in my spare time.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:33 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:
Liriena wrote:Imagine supporting an economic system in which only a small minority is satisfied with the activity that consumes a sizeable chunk of their adult life.


We've reached the stage where people should be grateful they can have a job. If you complain about worker's rights nowadays, people may even mock you for being too "ungrateful" and "spoiled".


Actually, with the current 6.2 million job vacancies in the US (enough to employ 3.9% of the workforce) you can have some neat job opportunities.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:43 pm

I love my job. I retired a year ago. Now I play guitar in a 60s cover band.
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