Trump MAGAthread X - Follow the Money

[Valrifell]

It doesn't matter if you think it's possible or likely, it matters if you can see why it's important that criminals shouldn't be allowed to stay in office, and that your political preferences shouldn't factor into whether or not Trump gets removed from office.

But political preference is a factor and as long as Republicans stick with him, especially Fox News, the Donors, and the Tea Party, they will have no political incentive on removing him.

I'm not having this conversation for the... sixteenth time? Eventually I get bored.

[Ifreann]

Well, the movie about Trump's impeachment got its inciting moment scene.

It all began, as so many memorable tales do, with a night of “heavy drinking at an upscale London bar.”

See, this is why I'm not cut out for politics. My nights of heavy drinking don't tend to be memorable in the slightest.

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Yes, yes, we know you have no desire for any kind of justice if guilty and are obsessive over the idea of Pence becoming President.

What justice? I see no justice with replacing an idiot with a religious fanatic. Just get rid of Trump in 2020 like any other president. Let the electorate vote him out as 'impeachment'.

I suppose it's not surprising that you don't care about people going to prison if they've broken the law, what with how you want to overthrow the government and install yourself as dictator.

[The Flutterlands]

But political preference is a factor and as long as Republicans stick with him, especially Fox News, the Donors, and the Tea Party, they will have no political incentive on removing him.

I'm not having this conversation for the... sixteenth time? Eventually I get bored.

I'm just explaining the reality here...

[Valrifell]

I'm not having this conversation for the... sixteenth time? Eventually I get bored.

I'm just explaining the reality here...

For the sixteenth time.

Like many have pointed out, you're really quite the broken record.

[The Flutterlands]

What justice? I see no justice with replacing an idiot with a religious fanatic. Just get rid of Trump in 2020 like any other president. Let the electorate vote him out as 'impeachment'.

I suppose it's not surprising that you don't care about people going to prison if they've broken the law, what with how you want to overthrow the government and install yourself as dictator.

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after being voted out

[Petrasylvania]

I suppose it's not surprising that you don't care about people going to prison if they've broken the law, what with how you want to overthrow the government and install yourself as dictator.

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after neimg voted out

3 more years to fuck things up more, like doubling down on abolishing net neutrality. It's like you love Donnie for giving you an excuse to rant and rave about Viva La Revoluçion.

[Senkaku]

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after neimg voted out

3 more years to fuck things up more, like doubling down on abolishing net neutrality. It's like you love Donnie for giving you an excuse to rant and rave about Viva La Revoluçion.

it's almost like flutter is just mad and wants more reasons to continue being so :thonk:

[Proctopeo]

3 more years to fuck things up more, like doubling down on abolishing net neutrality. It's like you love Donnie for giving you an excuse to rant and rave about Viva La Revoluçion.

it's almost like flutter is just mad and wants more reasons to continue being so :thonk:

In the end, aren't we all?

[The Flutterlands]

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after neimg voted out

3 more years to fuck things up more, like doubling down on abolishing net neutrality. It's like you love Donnie for giving you an excuse to rant and rave about Viva La Revoluçion.

I don't like Trump but I am not going to demand, (even with my ravings of Revolution which are similar to ravings of impeachment but is actually a last resort) something that is not going to happen realistically.

[The Flutterlands]

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after neimg voted out

3 more years to fuck things up more, like doubling down on abolishing net neutrality. It's like you love Donnie for giving you an excuse to rant and rave about Viva La Revoluçion.

Also, How and why can/would Trump double down on Net Neutrality? He doesn't even fucking know what it is...

[Ifreann]

I suppose it's not surprising that you don't care about people going to prison if they've broken the law, what with how you want to overthrow the government and install yourself as dictator.

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after neimg voted out

Point is, law and order is clearly of no concern to you. "Convict criminals? Nah, don't bother. I'll have 'em all the the gulag by then."

[The Flutterlands]

Impeachment doesn't lead to jail. Let Trump be convicted after neimg voted out

Point is, law and order is clearly of no concern to you. "Convict criminals? Nah, don't bother. I'll have 'em all the the gulag by then."

Trump can still be convicted when thrown out of office in 2020. That will be the most likely scenario anyway...

[The Flutterlands]

You guys tell me to be realistic and I get yelled at for being realistic...

[Ifreann]

3 more years to fuck things up more, like doubling down on abolishing net neutrality. It's like you love Donnie for giving you an excuse to rant and rave about Viva La Revoluçion.

Also, How and why can/would Trump double down on Net Neutrality? He doesn't even fucking know what it is...

He doesn't need to know what it is to veto bills about it.

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You guys tell me to be realistic and I get yelled at for being realistic...

It's not realistic, it's corrupt. You're talking about ignoring crimes until it's politically convenient to pursue them.

[Petrasylvania]

You guys tell me to be realistic and I get yelled at for being realistic...

An insurrection is realstic now?

[The Flutterlands]

You guys tell me to be realistic and I get yelled at for being realistic...

An insurrection is realstic now?

I am not talking about insurrection...

[Oil exporting People]

An insurrection is realstic now?

Personally, I'm inclined to believe a Second Civil War is a realistic possibility.

[The Flutterlands]

Also, How and why can/would Trump double down on Net Neutrality? He doesn't even fucking know what it is...

He doesn't need to know what it is to veto bills about it.

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You guys tell me to be realistic and I get yelled at for being realistic...

It's not realistic, it's corrupt. You're talking about ignoring crimes until it's politically convenient to pursue them.

1.) That would be political suicide and giving more people to vote him out

2.) Yes. It must be politically convenient. Don't impeach in the House if you cant remove in the Senate...

[Valrifell]

An insurrection is realstic now?

Personally, I'm inclined to believe a Second Civil War is a realistic possibility.

The tensions of now and the Antebellum are only mildly comparable.

And they're not really defined in clear state-wide terms, either. It's the nebulous "rural" vs. the ill-defined "urban," and you have those distinctions in every state.

[Ifreann]

He doesn't need to know what it is to veto bills about it.

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It's not realistic, it's corrupt. You're talking about ignoring crimes until it's politically convenient to pursue them.

1.) That would be political suicide and giving more people to vote him out

As if that would stop him.

2.) Yes. It must be politically convenient. Don't impeach in the House if you cant remove in the Senate...

Or ever, according to your repeated objections to Mike Pence becoming President.

[Oil exporting People]

The tensions of now and the Antebellum are only mildly comparable.

About the same, honestly; we're already starting to see street battles (Shades of Weimar) and State secession movements again; the last one seems to be increasing.

And they're not really defined in clear state-wide terms, either. It's the nebulous "rural" vs. the ill-defined "urban," and you have those distinctions in every state.

More accurately, it's a matter of ideology and the divide is clear:



You're right in saying it probably won't be like 1861 was in that you had a unified bloc of states pull out at once, but that the exact method will be different this time in no way shape or form precludes such.

[Salus Maior]

The tensions of now and the Antebellum are only mildly comparable.

About the same, honestly; we're already starting to see street battles (Shades of Weimar) and State secession movements again; the last one seems to be increasing.

And they're not really defined in clear state-wide terms, either. It's the nebulous "rural" vs. the ill-defined "urban," and you have those distinctions in every state.

More accurately, it's a matter of ideology and the divide is clear:



You're right in saying it probably won't be like 1861 was in that you had a unified bloc of states pull out at once, but that the exact method will be different this time in no way shape or form precludes such.

Concerning. The government really needs to be reformed.

Hey Queen Elizabeth, you busy?

[Valrifell]

The tensions of now and the Antebellum are only mildly comparable.

About the same, honestly; we're already starting to see street battles (Shades of Weimar) and State secession movements again; the last one seems to be increasing.

Those numbers are oddly high, and the abnormally high margin of error makes me think the exact methodology of the first poll is suspect, it was just an online poll, after all, so the high degree of uncertainty and inflated numbers are expected. In the case of the latter, 800 isn't a very large sample size for doing nationwide polls, and is actually abysmal since the poll is actually being conducted region-by-region, if they're using four or five regions, that's either 200 or 160 people per region which isn't representative of anything at all.

The tensions are just the results of a vocal, evidently mostly online, community as far as I can see, and there's no real chance of these threats being realized. The street battles are extranormal examples of protests gone awry, which we've seen in the 1970s. The talk of the Second Civil War in 2017 is as founded in reality as Helter Skelter in 1967.

[The Flutterlands]

States cant secede even if they truly wanted too...

[Washington Resistance Army]

States cant secede even if they truly wanted too...

They could, it would just be incredibly difficult.