Should men and women be boarded together in prison?

[The Parkus Empire]

Should men and women be boarded together in prison and the military?

Yeah, okay, if you want to try an equivalent to race, then men and women should share the same barracks and be assigned as roommates or else we're being sexist.

Sounds good to me.

I argue no, because forcing cohabitation is not considerate of a lot of religious sensitibilities, and because people who are married or in relationships might not be progressive enough to be comfortable with that.

Although women in prison rarely commit homicide, a large study of Texas prisons by Tischler and Marquart showed that there was no difference between women and men in violent episodes.

https://www.bakadesuyo.com/2010/11/whic ... or-womens/

As someone who has been incarcerated in the state prison, I would say homicide is not something that casn be brushed over. Homicide is the backbone of prison gangs, and the only way to advance in their ranks. It is the bedrock of prison politics.

[Petrolheadia]

Should men and women be boarded together in prison and the military?

Sounds good to me.

I argue no, because forcing cohabitation is not considerate of a lot of religious sensitibilities, and because people who are married or in relationships might not be progressive enough to be comfortable with that.

So how can these married people survive in public places? Are they taking some pills to stop themselves from fucking everything that isn't their spouse, or what?

[Reploid Productions]

I know you started this one to avoid threadjacking the other thread (appreciate that, BTW!) but any chance you can flesh out this OP a little more? Some links or additional info maybe?

[The Parkus Empire]

Should men and women be boarded together in prison and the military?



I argue no, because forcing cohabitation is not considerate of a lot of religious sensitibilities, and because people who are married or in relationships might not be progressive enough to be comfortable with that.

So how can these married people survive in public places? Are they taking some pills to stop themselves from fucking everything that isn't their spouse, or what?

No seeing the similarity between public place and cohabitation.

[Salandriagado]

I'll ask you the same question I did in the other thread, since we've moved it here:



If you're claiming that some Christian (or hell, let's broaden it: some reasonably authoritative text from any religion) text has a ban on sleeping in a room with a mixture of sexes (but not in any way sharing a bed or having sex), produce such a text. Otherwise, admit that there is no such religious sensibility to be offended.

[The BlAAtschApen]

Should men and women be boarded together in prison and the military?

Sounds good to me.

I argue no, because forcing cohabitation is not considerate of a lot of religious sensitibilities, and because people who are married or in relationships might not be progressive enough to be comfortable with that.

What about gays(and lesbians) that are married and end up in prison? Are their sensibilities not important?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

"In prison" is an especially bad idea. The whole "fear of child support bills" is removed, as no one's going to want to hire them when they get out, so they figure they have nothing left to lose by having spawn conceived by criminals and raised in the womb with criminal genes and a prisoner's diet. Unless we fed pregnant criminals healthier food than everyone else, in which case you give female criminals an incentive to get pregnant and male criminals an incentive to impregnate them, fouling up the gene pool.

Or you could sterilize them like California did, but then bodily-autonomy absolutists would throw a hissy fit.

Besides, if you tell guys they can get pussy in prison, they'll have a lot less incentive to obey the law. At least female criminals already know they can get a correctional officer to fuck them, but the correctional officer will wear a condom anyway if only to avoid getting caught.

[Petrasylvania]

And the military still has ways to go with gender relations.

[The Parkus Empire]

I know you started this one to avoid threadjacking the other thread (appreciate that, BTW!) but any chance you can flesh out this OP a little more? Some links or additional info maybe?

Do not have time atm but will tomorrow

[Diopolis]

I'll ask you the same question I did in the other thread, since we've moved it here:



If you're claiming that some Christian (or hell, let's broaden it: some reasonably authoritative text from any religion) text has a ban on sleeping in a room with a mixture of sexes (but not in any way sharing a bed or having sex), produce such a text. Otherwise, admit that there is no such religious sensibility to be offended.

This represents a classic mistake.
Most religions do not operate on a textual basis for truth. They operate on an authoritative basis for truth.In other words, what the holy book says is not the arbiter of what is true. It's what the religious authority, whoever that is, says. And finding even liberal religious authorities who object to unmarried(or at least, not in a committed relationship) men and women sharing a room overnight is a trivial undertaking- I know that even otherwise extremely liberal priests in my own religion ban it, or require an extenuating circumstance.

[Kenmoria]

In the ideal world, yes. In the actual word, no.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

No.....I mean rape is already common.
I imagine the rates of rape would skyrocket if women and men were held together.
But on the other hand we wouldn't need that many prisons

[The BlAAtschApen]

In the ideal world, yes. In the actual word, no.

Why do you have criminals in your ideal world to begin with?

[Salandriagado]

I'll ask you the same question I did in the other thread, since we've moved it here:



If you're claiming that some Christian (or hell, let's broaden it: some reasonably authoritative text from any religion) text has a ban on sleeping in a room with a mixture of sexes (but not in any way sharing a bed or having sex), produce such a text. Otherwise, admit that there is no such religious sensibility to be offended.

This represents a classic mistake.
Most religions do not operate on a textual basis for truth. They operate on an authoritative basis for truth.In other words, what the holy book says is not the arbiter of what is true. It's what the religious authority, whoever that is, says. And finding even liberal religious authorities who object to unmarried(or at least, not in a committed relationship) men and women sharing a room overnight is a trivial undertaking- I know that even otherwise extremely liberal priests in my own religion ban it, or require an extenuating circumstance.

"Text" here includes "pronouncement from religious authority".

[Ifreann]

Should anyone be boarded together in prison?

[Kenmoria]

In the ideal world prison, yes. In the actual world prison, no.

Why do you have criminals in your ideal world to begin with?

Happy now?

[The Two Jerseys]

No. Prison is supposed to be punishment.

[Milwalkiee]

Depending on your religion, if you truly follow it, you shouldn't be in jail in the first place.

Even so, no. Though we're equal as humans, there are still differences that might cause complications if you didn't know the person.

[Diopolis]

This represents a classic mistake.
Most religions do not operate on a textual basis for truth. They operate on an authoritative basis for truth.In other words, what the holy book says is not the arbiter of what is true. It's what the religious authority, whoever that is, says. And finding even liberal religious authorities who object to unmarried(or at least, not in a committed relationship) men and women sharing a room overnight is a trivial undertaking- I know that even otherwise extremely liberal priests in my own religion ban it, or require an extenuating circumstance.

"Text" here includes "pronouncement from religious authority".

So you're asking me to find a fatwa condemning men and women sharing a room? How about a rabbinical pronouncement mandating gender segregation? Would you accept a sermon railing against men and women associating unchaperoned?

[Salandriagado]

"Text" here includes "pronouncement from religious authority".

So you're asking me to find a fatwa condemning men and women sharing a room? How about a rabbinical pronouncement mandating gender segregation? Would you accept a sermon railing against men and women associating unchaperoned?

The first two will do. The third wont, because the situations here are chaperoned.

[The BlAAtschApen]

Why do you have criminals in your ideal world to begin with?

Happy now?

Better

[Costa Fierro]

Good luck finding enough women inmates to bunk with male inmates.

[Uxupox]

Good luck finding enough women inmates to bunk with male inmates.

HA! Very true.

[Aellex]

"In prison" is an especially bad idea. The whole "fear of child support bills" is removed, as no one's going to want to hire them when they get out, so they figure they have nothing left to lose by having spawn conceived by criminals and raised in the womb with criminal genes and a prisoner's diet. Unless we fed pregnant criminals healthier food than everyone else, in which case you give female criminals an incentive to get pregnant and male criminals an incentive to impregnate them, fouling up the gene pool.

Or you could sterilize them like California did, but then bodily-autonomy absolutists would throw a hissy fit.

Besides, if you tell guys they can get pussy in prison, they'll have a lot less incentive to obey the law. At least female criminals already know they can get a correctional officer to fuck them, but the correctional officer will wear a condom anyway if only to avoid getting caught.

[Oil exporting People]

So how can these married people survive in public places? Are they taking some pills to stop themselves from fucking everything that isn't their spouse, or what?

Pretty big difference between, say, going to get ice cream with your spouse and then sharing a prison cell with someone who is of the opposite sex.