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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:58 pm

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Kramania wrote:I dare say many of the people attacking Ajit Pai are just racist.


Some are but others are attacking him because of his blatant disregard towards the American people and for being an obvious shill to Verizon.

This racism against a person of color must be stopped.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:38 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:NN in that case could be used as a way buy time to figure out how to break the death grip Comcast and friends have on the market.

Doesn't fix the problem but prevents those assholes from tearing the consumers to peaces.

Which is nonsense. They had effective monopolies during NN. They have them now. They can still manipulate consumers. They still have lobbyists. If you are locked in a room with a guy and an assortment of weapons, it's not much consolation for someone to take away the gun and say "Well, at least he can't shoot you now."



You keep blaming NN for not doing something it was never meant to do.

Yes, the monopolies suck and we should break it up.

But, you are getting rid of a safety that consumers had to protect them from zed monopolies.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:05 pm

So trawling through the anti-NN comments has revealed some more obvious fakes.

To wit:

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Date Received May 11, 2017
Date Posted May 13, 2017
Address 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
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Brief Comment The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation. I urge the Federal Communications Commission to end the bureaucratic regulatory overreach of the internet known as Title II and restore the bipartisan light-touch regulatory consensus that enabled the internet to flourish for more than 20 years. The plan currently under consideration at the FCC to repeal Obama's Title II power grab is a positive step forward and will help to promote a truly free and open internet for everyone.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:12 pm

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Net Neutrality prevents both the government and the ISPs from meddling with the internet because it dictates that all content must be treated equally.

Without neutrality ISPs may create slow and fast lanes but the government can also step in and block things they disagree with. One of the reasons most people support net neutrality is to prevent anyone from disrupting free speech platforms.

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NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE A CHOICE, it's either, you have this one ISP, or nothing.

The problem is is that people who support repealing NN think that NN is the reason there are less ISP's to choose from.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:52 pm

Vassenor wrote:So trawling through the anti-NN comments has revealed some more obvious fakes.

To wit:

ID1051157755251

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Date Received May 11, 2017
Date Posted May 13, 2017
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Brief Comment The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation. I urge the Federal Communications Commission to end the bureaucratic regulatory overreach of the internet known as Title II and restore the bipartisan light-touch regulatory consensus that enabled the internet to flourish for more than 20 years. The plan currently under consideration at the FCC to repeal Obama's Title II power grab is a positive step forward and will help to promote a truly free and open internet for everyone.

It's obviously fake because if Obama really did write that Ajit Pai and the Republicans would be biologically compelled to defend and double down on net neutrality because they don't want Obama to succeed at anything.
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:03 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:

It's obviously fake because if Obama really did write that Ajit Pai and the Republicans would be biologically compelled to defend and double down on net neutrality because they don't want Obama to succeed at anything.

He didn't succeed at much so don't worry.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:28 pm

Kramania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It's obviously fake because if Obama really did write that Ajit Pai and the Republicans would be biologically compelled to defend and double down on net neutrality because they don't want Obama to succeed at anything.

He didn't succeed at much so don't worry.


He did more for the lower classes then Trump and the repubs will do.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:29 pm

Kramania wrote:I dare say many of the people attacking Ajit Pai are just racist.


Example?
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:10 pm

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Kramania wrote:He didn't succeed at much so don't worry.


He did more for the lower classes then Trump and the repubs will do.

Yes, we have more people on food stamps than ever before. *slow clap*
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Postby Kramania » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:10 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kramania wrote:I dare say many of the people attacking Ajit Pai are just racist.


Example?

You don't need examples when accusing people of racism, silly. Has being a liberal taught you nothing?
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:04 am

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Example?

You don't need examples when accusing people of racism, silly. Has being a liberal taught you nothing?


Whether or not we're being racist to Ajit Pai because of his ethnicity doesn't quite matter when he's repealing the thing that didn't force people to side on this provider or that provider.
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Postby Luna Amore » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:16 am

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Kramania wrote:You don't need examples when accusing people of racism, silly. Has being a liberal taught you nothing?


Whether or not we're being racist to Ajit Pai because of his ethnicity doesn't quite matter when he's repealing the thing that didn't force people to side on this provider or that provider.

For integrity's sake, it does matter.

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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:22 am

Luna Amore wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Whether or not we're being racist to Ajit Pai because of his ethnicity doesn't quite matter when he's repealing the thing that didn't force people to side on this provider or that provider.

For integrity's sake, it does matter.


Is it?

Is it because we try to keep our humanity, to keep our morality, or because integrity's sake?
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:40 am

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Kramania wrote:You don't need examples when accusing people of racism, silly. Has being a liberal taught you nothing?


Whether or not we're being racist to Ajit Pai because of his ethnicity doesn't quite matter when he's repealing the thing that didn't force people to side on this provider or that provider.


I'm almost certain his race is not relevant to his career history and the decisions he's made via his status as the GOP representation on the FCC. Unless you're going to claim that he believes in deregulation because he's Indian-American.
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:54 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Whether or not we're being racist to Ajit Pai because of his ethnicity doesn't quite matter when he's repealing the thing that didn't force people to side on this provider or that provider.


I'm almost certain his race is not relevant to his career history and the decisions he's made via his status as the GOP representation on the FCC. Unless you're going to claim that he believes in deregulation because he's Indian-American.


I'm not talking about questioning his race in this decision that he made and his career history. I'm answering to Kramania's post.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:36 am

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But srsly, I don't get the "all defenders of NN are working/shilling for Net Filx + google" argument.

My arguments have never once talked about Google or *Netflix before. They have been about why leaving your money alone at the mercy of Time Warner Cable with only there "super special promise pinkie swear" that they won't take all of your money, citing things like "self regulation" when we have seen time and time again that Time Warner Cable words are meaningless is a silly idea.

*Ok yes netflix but only in passing showing that they where wiling to throttle speeds in an effort to get people to use there own service.
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Postby New Grestin » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:08 am

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Example?

You don't need examples when accusing people of racism, silly. Has being a liberal taught you nothing?

You don't need examples when trying to prove unfounded statements, silly. Has being a conservative taught you nothing?
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What happened to that Congressional Review Act thingy ?

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:31 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Whether or not we're being racist to Ajit Pai because of his ethnicity doesn't quite matter when he's repealing the thing that didn't force people to side on this provider or that provider.


I'm almost certain his race is not relevant to his career history and the decisions he's made via his status as the GOP representation on the FCC. Unless you're going to claim that he believes in deregulation because he's Indian-American.

It's amusingly ironic that the race card is being played by someone on the side that likes to accuse and sneer at leftists for supposedly loving to play the race card.
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Petrasylvania wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
I'm almost certain his race is not relevant to his career history and the decisions he's made via his status as the GOP representation on the FCC. Unless you're going to claim that he believes in deregulation because he's Indian-American.

It's amusingly ironic that the race card is being played by someone on the side that likes to accuse and sneer at leftists for supposedly loving to play the race card.


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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:12 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
I'm almost certain his race is not relevant to his career history and the decisions he's made via his status as the GOP representation on the FCC. Unless you're going to claim that he believes in deregulation because he's Indian-American.

It's amusingly ironic that the race card is being played by someone on the side that likes to accuse and sneer at leftists for supposedly loving to play the race card.

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New Grestin wrote:
Kramania wrote:You don't need examples when accusing people of racism, silly. Has being a liberal taught you nothing?

You don't need examples when trying to prove unfounded statements, silly. Has being a conservative taught you nothing?

It's racist because you are attacking a person of color in a high position. Apparently that's evidence enough. So stop being racist.
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Postby New Grestin » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:16 pm

Kramania wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:It's amusingly ironic that the race card is being played by someone on the side that likes to accuse and sneer at leftists for supposedly loving to play the race card.

You can always speak to me directly.

Ok. I'll directly point out to you that taking potshots at liberals over a bipartisan issue is petty and goes against the point of maintaining a united front against a wildly corrupt group of government officials who have both no conception of what they're voting on, nor any conception of working for the American people.

Take the smugness to the Trump thread. This isn't about party politics.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:26 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Kramania wrote:You can always speak to me directly.

Ok. I'll directly point out to you that taking potshots at liberals over a bipartisan issue is petty and goes against the point of maintaining a united front against a wildly corrupt group of government officials who have both no conception of what they're voting on, nor any conception of working for the American people.

Take the smugness to the Trump thread. This isn't about party politics.

Just because you want to pretend it's a bipartisan issue doesn't actually make one. I do so tire of leftists pretending that things they support should be bipartisan issues that everyone should agree with them on. They aren't, and everyone won't. So I think I'll retain my smugness.
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