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Postby Galloism » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:42 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And now people are now suing/fighting for NN.

I guess I don't understand the basis of the lawsuit. It appears to have passed the FCC board legitimately and with a majority, just as the original rules did.

I mean, it's stupid, but stupid is not the same as illegal.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:52 pm

Kramania wrote:People panic as internet rules go back to what they were two years ago.

Point being? FCC rules towards the internet are definitely better now than they were years ago..

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:52 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And now people are now suing/fighting for NN.

I guess I don't understand the basis of the lawsuit. It appears to have passed the FCC board legitimately and with a majority, just as the original rules did.

I mean, it's stupid, but stupid is not the same as illegal.

People are mad Gallo, they didn't get what they wanted. Obviously that's legal grounds for a lawsuit
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:I guess I don't understand the basis of the lawsuit. It appears to have passed the FCC board legitimately and with a majority, just as the original rules did.

I mean, it's stupid, but stupid is not the same as illegal.

People are mad Gallo, they didn't get what they wanted. Obviously that's legal grounds for a lawsuit

Yeah certain people in the South didn't get want they wanted. They never should have sued in court to end things like bus segregation.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:53 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Kramania wrote:People panic as internet rules go back to what they were two years ago.

Point being? FCC rules towards the internet are definitely better now than they were years ago..

I haven't noticed a difference in anything, internet service or otherwise
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Postby Galloism » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:I guess I don't understand the basis of the lawsuit. It appears to have passed the FCC board legitimately and with a majority, just as the original rules did.

I mean, it's stupid, but stupid is not the same as illegal.

People are mad Gallo, they didn't get what they wanted. Obviously that's legal grounds for a lawsuit

I mean, "didn't get what I wanted" is the core basis of all lawsuits. I just don't see the legal justification.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:People are mad Gallo, they didn't get what they wanted. Obviously that's legal grounds for a lawsuit

Yeah certain people in the South didn't get want they wanted. They never should have sued in court to end things like bus segregation.

Um that was a legitimate lawsuit, those laws whent against the constitution. This vote is not and has not been against the constitution and was legally carried out.

So nice strawman
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:58 pm

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:People are mad Gallo, they didn't get what they wanted. Obviously that's legal grounds for a lawsuit

I mean, "didn't get what I wanted" is the core basis of all lawsuits. I just don't see the legal justification.

I guess my joke was way too subtle. The "didn't get what I wanted" being the legal justification
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:35 pm

Kramania wrote:People panic as internet rules go back to what they were two years ago.


And as the rules preventing the really shitty abuses that happened then vanish.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:36 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Now they can fuck with even more of your money.

Yeah, what will we ever do now without the government putting in safeguards to protect against nonexistent practices.


You have been shown fully evidenced examples of said practices actually happening on at least three occasions that I have noticed. Stop. Lying.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:39 pm

Kramania wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Now they can fuck with even more of your money.

Yeah, what will we ever do now without the government putting in safeguards to protect against nonexistent practices.


Such as?
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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:42 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Kramania wrote:Yeah, what will we ever do now without the government putting in safeguards to protect against nonexistent practices.


You have been shown fully evidenced examples of said practices actually happening on at least three occasions that I have noticed. Stop. Lying.

Eh? I wasn't posting in this thread until now.
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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:44 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kramania wrote:Yeah, what will we ever do now without the government putting in safeguards to protect against nonexistent practices.


Things that never happened.

My point was that these practices weren't widespread, and the hysterical screeching about net neutrality being ended is silly.
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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:45 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kramania wrote:Yeah, what will we ever do now without the government putting in safeguards to protect against nonexistent practices.

And why wouldn't they want to fuck more people out of there money?

I don't know. There were quite a few mega-corporations shilling to keep net neutrality.
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Postby Lockdownn » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:53 pm

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:53 pm

Kramania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
You have been shown fully evidenced examples of said practices actually happening on at least three occasions that I have noticed. Stop. Lying.

Eh? I wasn't posting in this thread until now.


This is far from the first thread on the subject.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:59 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Kramania wrote:Eh? I wasn't posting in this thread until now.


This is far from the first thread on the subject.

I rarely participate in these threads. So please, go confuse me with someone else.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:59 pm

Kramania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
This is far from the first thread on the subject.

I rarely participate in these threads. So please, go confuse me with someone else.


It has also come up in several Trump threads, where you do regularly post.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:01 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Kramania wrote:I rarely participate in these threads. So please, go confuse me with someone else.


It has also come up in several Trump threads, where you do regularly post.

Do you follow me around or something? I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable here.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:02 pm

Kramania wrote:

My point was that these practices weren't widespread, and the hysterical screeching about net neutrality being ended is silly.


No, your point was about how abuses of power before Net Neutrality didn't happen, hence your choice of wording in "nonexistent."

And, really, it doesn't matter if it was widespread or not, it's happened more times than you think, and it'll happen again.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:08 pm

Kramania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
It has also come up in several Trump threads, where you do regularly post.

Do you follow me around or something? I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable here.


No, it's just that I have personally given you actual proof that your above claim is false more than once, and your lies are getting tiresome.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kramania wrote:My point was that these practices weren't widespread, and the hysterical screeching about net neutrality being ended is silly.


No, your point was about how abuses of power before Net Neutrality didn't happen, hence your choice of wording in "nonexistent."

And, really, it doesn't matter if it was widespread or not, it's happened more times than you think, and it'll happen again.

I doubt it. And if it's such a problem then find a new service provider. The beautiful thing about the free market is that you have options. And now you'll have more options.
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Postby Kramania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:15 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Kramania wrote:Do you follow me around or something? I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable here.


No, it's just that I have personally given you actual proof that your above claim is false more than once, and your lies are getting tiresome.

I don't even remember you. And usually I'm good at remembering people, even long after they've forgotten me.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:17 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Kramania wrote:Yeah, what will we ever do now without the government putting in safeguards to protect against nonexistent practices.


You have been shown fully evidenced examples of said practices actually happening on at least three occasions that I have noticed. Stop. Lying.

And net neutrality had nothing to do with Verizon or att stopping the practuce.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:17 pm

Kramania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
No, your point was about how abuses of power before Net Neutrality didn't happen, hence your choice of wording in "nonexistent."

And, really, it doesn't matter if it was widespread or not, it's happened more times than you think, and it'll happen again.

I doubt it. And if it's such a problem then find a new service provider. The beautiful thing about the free market is that you have options. And now you'll have more options.


There are like a handful of service providers of equal (shit) quality, sometimes there's only one option because even though the guys across town can get FiOS, I can only get Comcast.

Curious.
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