It does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Slaughtered for sure... might as well make it into a meme.
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by Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:09 pm
by Ameriganastan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:55 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Ilmenia wrote:I just started a Thousand Sons army for 40k, this is my first foray into crunch even though I've been reading fluff for quite a while now. Any advice?
It's all Magnus's fault. Seriously. Sincerely. Honestly. If Magnus hadn't done what he'd done, the Galaxy would've been better off.
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:21 pm
by Baltenstein » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:19 pm
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:22 am
by Herador » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:19 am
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:29 am
Herador wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Sure, let's blame the Emperor for his sons's shortcomings.
If anything, his only mistake is not gutting the basket cases.
Considering he shoved Demon's in them and then was an absentee dick with an aloofness problem, yeah I'd say blaming Emps for what happened sounds fair.
by Baltenstein » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:33 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:35 am
by Jetan » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:33 am
Herador wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Sure, let's blame the Emperor for his sons's shortcomings.
If anything, his only mistake is not gutting the basket cases.
Considering he shoved Demon's in them and then was an absentee dick with an aloofness problem, yeah I'd say blaming Emps for what happened sounds fair.
by Hurdergaryp » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:43 am
by Jetan » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:19 am
by Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:51 am
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:59 am
I mean, look at Lorgar. He could have just said "Don't worship me" or "Don't build churches in my name". Instead he burned them down and made Lorgar kneel in the ashes. I'd have gone rouge on his golden ass too.
by Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:03 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Gee, I wonder why he treated a bunch of grown men who he didn't know until rediscovering them in the Great Crusade like grown men.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The intent of the Imperial Truth was clear, and Lorgar was unabashedly against that intent. The response was appropriate.
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:17 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Gee, I wonder why he treated a bunch of grown men who he didn't know until rediscovering them in the Great Crusade like grown men.
Except he didn't. He barely even respected them. He always assumed everything he was doing was correct, and didn't stop to think some of the 20 guys spawned from him wouldn't agree. Hell, he barely consulted them on anything. That's not what a leader is supposed to do.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The intent of the Imperial Truth was clear, and Lorgar was unabashedly against that intent. The response was appropriate.
He torched an entire city to make a point. Heaven forbid he actually tried to talk to the guy. Instead, he makes him kneel in the ashes of something he was proud of. That's a dick move no matter how you spin it.
by Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:36 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They're primarchs. They're mission was simple: expand the Imperium. This does not require much input from the Emperor.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:As for respect: among the primarchs were a psychopath, a sorcerer dabbling in forbidden arts, an incredibly ornery psychopath, and a religious fanatic. Why should he show respect to such basket cases?
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:"Something he was proud of"
Fucking good for him, but the Crusade's purpose was to tear down the superstitions that Lorgar was helping to spread.
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Herador » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:57 pm
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:52 am
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:As for respect: among the primarchs were a psychopath, a sorcerer dabbling in forbidden arts, an incredibly ornery psychopath, and a religious fanatic. Why should he show respect to such basket cases?
Because he MADE THEM.
He appointed said basket cases and psychopaths as leaders of barely human squads of warmachines. If he wasn't such a neglectful nimrod, he might have waited a little. Or not made them leaders at all.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:"Something he was proud of"
Fucking good for him, but the Crusade's purpose was to tear down the superstitions that Lorgar was helping to spread.
Lorgar was raised on religious dogma and need to believe in some higher power. Instead of trying to convince him that was wrong, he does that. Of course Lorgar was pissed.
Herador wrote:
Seriously, this all could have been avoided if Emps trusted them a little and gave a hoot about them personally.
by Herador » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:23 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The Emperor trusted a primarch once.
He got turned into a vegetable for it.
by Hurdergaryp » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:20 am
Herador wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The Emperor trusted a primarch once.
He got turned into a vegetable for it.
Some trust beforehand may have also been helpful.
Point's moot either way, the Horus Heresy books are such a clusterfuck that this debate could go on ad nauseam until the heat death of the universe and Black Library would still be giving both sides ammo, which I suspect they're doing on purpose.
by Onekawa-Nukanor » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:35 pm
by Socialist Czechia » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:48 am
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:15 pm
Socialist Czechia wrote:Exactly how I imagined propaganda on Terra during Great Crusade
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
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