Roy Moore / Alabama Special Senate Election Megathread

[Corrian]

If only...

I'm not the only person who unironically likes Jeb (!)?

He was oddly one of the more preferable Republicans, but we don't need more Bush' in office.

[The Black Forrest]

Well, in a state like California, which does not need voter ID and is a "sanctuary state", it's a fair assumption to assume some of the hundreds of thousands of illegals walked up to the voter booth, said "I'm Juan Martinez and I am a US citizen", signed that paper saying he solemnly swears that he is one (even though he aint and they have no way of proving it that very moment), and ticked off the Clinton/Kaine boxes on the ballot.

Not enough to flip the state of California, definitely (CA be liberal af), but perhaps a county.

That is a lie.

If you have voted before your name is on the roster of voters. You have to mention your address and you have to sign in. A first time voter who registered through mail and don't give the last 4 didgits of your social or your license, you will have to show some form of id. They suggest photo.

If you are not on the roster and think you can vote; a provisional ballot but those are reviewed later if in fact you can vote.

[Corrian]

Vote for a pedophile who happens to more represent your views. Or vote for a guy who does not represent you at all but happens to not be a pedophile.

If I were them I'd write in.

Yes I’m sure the nuanced policy points of both candidates has been the key discussion of this election over ‘us and them’. ‘Not represent you at all’, he’s white, he’s American, he appears to believe in the Constitution and rule of law and abide by it’ - I mean what’s really the result in effect, Alabama won’t turn into a godless hippie wonderland..

..but you can’t complain about being stereotyped if you actually vote in a stereotype.

The fact the election is even close shows that there are a lot breaking away from "That stereotype" and if it really is close, generalizing, say, 48% or 49% of people into the rest of the stereotype is bad.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Vote for a pedophile who happens to more represent your views. Or vote for a guy who does not represent you at all but happens to not be a pedophile.

If I were them I'd write in.

Yes I’m sure the nuanced policy points of both candidates has been the key discussion of this election over ‘us and them’. ‘Not represent you at all’, he’s white, he’s American, he appears to believe in the Constitution and rule of law and abide by it’ - I mean what’s really the result in effect, Alabama won’t turn into a godless hippie wonderland..

..but you can’t complain about being stereotyped if you actually vote in a stereotype.

It's not even multiple policy points, it's abortion. If the Dems ran a pro-life candidate they'd be cruising to an easy win.

[The Black Forrest]

*snip*

[Arlenton]

I'm not the only person who unironically likes Jeb (!)?

He was oddly one of the more preferable Republicans, but we don't need more Bush' in office.

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

[Cekoviu]

So of course my dad posted this

If only...

If this were to happen, would he be able to be a senator for Alabama, given that he lives in Florida (I think)? Could he move there afterwards and still be able to be a senator, or do you not have to live in a place to represent it?

[The Black Forrest]

He was oddly one of the more preferable Republicans, but we don't need more Bush' in office.

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Moderate? How? The Shiavo affair says otherwise.

[Corrian]

It's not even multiple policy points, it's abortion. If the Dems ran a pro-life candidate they'd be cruising to an easy win.

But you don't get funding if you're pro-life

He was oddly one of the more preferable Republicans, but we don't need more Bush' in office.

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Eeeww, even more reason for no Bush'.

Just imagine if this had happened:

Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Clinton, and then a Bush.

Like...That would have just been a sad state of affairs to be honest.

[Telconi]

He was oddly one of the more preferable Republicans, but we don't need more Bush' in office.

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Yeah, but he wasn't a racist or a theocrat or dumb as fuck.

[Telconi]

It's not even multiple policy points, it's abortion. If the Dems ran a pro-life candidate they'd be cruising to an easy win.

But you don't get funding if you're pro-life

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Eeeww, even more reason for no Bush'.

Just imagine if this had happened:

Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Clinton, and then a Bush.

Like...That would have just been a sad state of affairs to be honest.

How do *You* think them purity tests are working out?

[Arlenton]

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Moderate? How? The Shiavo affair says otherwise.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Despite him being pretty conservative, he's seen as a moderate for some reason. Probably because he has good immigration ideas.

[The Black Forrest]

Moderate? How? The Shiavo affair says otherwise.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Despite him being pretty conservative, he's seen as a moderate for some reason. Probably because he has good immigration ideas.

Ohhh I got you.....

[Arlenton]

It's not even multiple policy points, it's abortion. If the Dems ran a pro-life candidate they'd be cruising to an easy win.

But you don't get funding if you're pro-life

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Eeeww, even more reason for no Bush'.

Just imagine if this had happened:

Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Clinton, and then a Bush.

Like...That would have just been a sad state of affairs to be honest.

I'd personally think only the Clinton terms were the sad ones.

[Cekoviu]

He was oddly one of the more preferable Republicans, but we don't need more Bush' in office.

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

He was moderate in comparison to most of the other Republican candidates except John Kasich.

[Bombadil]

Yes I’m sure the nuanced policy points of both candidates has been the key discussion of this election over ‘us and them’. ‘Not represent you at all’, he’s white, he’s American, he appears to believe in the Constitution and rule of law and abide by it’ - I mean what’s really the result in effect, Alabama won’t turn into a godless hippie wonderland..

..but you can’t complain about being stereotyped if you actually vote in a stereotype.

The fact the election is even close shows that there are a lot breaking away from "That stereotype" and if it really is close, generalizing, say, 48% or 49% of people into the rest of the stereotype is bad.

Well, we don’t know if it’s close and, to be fair, we don’t know whether Jones will romp to victory. Yet I find it just as condescending to say ‘oh leave them alone, they’re good decent people at heart and calling them racist will just antagonise them’ when the result is they keep voting in racists.

[Arlenton]

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

Yeah, but he wasn't a racist or a theocrat or dumb as fuck.

IMO, Jeb is conservative on all the right positions and moderate on all the right positions (mainly just immigration).

His pro-life position I could care less about though.

[The Black Forrest]

But you don't get funding if you're pro-life


Eeeww, even more reason for no Bush'.

Just imagine if this had happened:

Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Clinton, and then a Bush.

Like...That would have just been a sad state of affairs to be honest.

I'd personally think only the Clinton terms were the sad ones.

Clinton? No. I made up all I lost under Saint Reagan and poppy bush.

[Cekoviu]

The fact the election is even close shows that there are a lot breaking away from "That stereotype" and if it really is close, generalizing, say, 48% or 49% of people into the rest of the stereotype is bad.

Well, we don’t know if it’s close and, to be fair, we don’t know whether Jones will romp to victory. Yet I find it just as condescending to say ‘oh leave them alone, they’re good decent people at heart and calling them racist will just antagonise them’ when the result is they keep voting in racists.

The problem is that when you stereotype people from Alabama as racist when not everyone actually votes for a racist, you're hurting the reputation of the ones who aren't.

[Arlenton]

What's even more odd is that he has this "moderate hero" image for some reason. If elected, he'd of been on of the most conservative presidents, if not the most conservative president, we've ever had.

He was moderate in comparison to most of the other Republican candidates except John Kasich.

On Immigration yeah. But out of the major contenders, I think Cruz, Carson, and in some respects Trump, were the only ones significantly more conservative overall.

And Paul. I forgot he ran.

[Telconi]

The fact the election is even close shows that there are a lot breaking away from "That stereotype" and if it really is close, generalizing, say, 48% or 49% of people into the rest of the stereotype is bad.

Well, we don’t know if it’s close and, to be fair, we don’t know whether Jones will romp to victory. Yet I find it just as condescending to say ‘oh leave them alone, they’re good decent people at heart and calling them racist will just antagonise them’ when the result is they keep voting in racists.

Pro tip: People don't push back against perceived attacks on their values when they don't perceive an attack on their values...

[Imperializt Russia]

Moore, when asked on what time he thinks America was great in order for the Make America Great Again spiel to make sense -
answered it was when "families were united". Clarifying just what period of history this actually was, he then said words to the effect of 'sure, we had slavery then, but whatever".

Despite the fact that this was not a time of mystical family unity as he wishes to present it (especially not for the families of the slaves he references only to dismiss), I'm sure it would be a grand crowdpleaser to the Reds of the state of Alabama, and he will of course win.

I am being declarative on that prediction, so that if I am wrong, I will be much happier.

The allegations against Moore have been debunked,

That word does not mean what you think it means.

Sauce?

https://imgur.com/DMd1iOw

It's obvious she added everything past "Roy" on the signature...and she did a piss poor job at it, using a different color pen...

It's almost like she didn't want to be accused of lying about adding a part herself, that wasn't put there by Moore by using a different coloured pen, not realising that people on the internet would be dumb enough to accuse her of doing just that, but badly to boot.

[Corrian]

Well, we don’t know if it’s close and, to be fair, we don’t know whether Jones will romp to victory. Yet I find it just as condescending to say ‘oh leave them alone, they’re good decent people at heart and calling them racist will just antagonise them’ when the result is they keep voting in racists.

The problem is that when you stereotype people from Alabama as racist when not everyone actually votes for a racist, you're hurting the reputation of the ones who aren't.

My dad specifically knows someone in Alabama who definitely seems like a southern girl who supported Jones since the beginning. She's younger, so that makes more likely to be voting Democrat, but still.

[Arlenton]

Well, we don’t know if it’s close and, to be fair, we don’t know whether Jones will romp to victory. Yet I find it just as condescending to say ‘oh leave them alone, they’re good decent people at heart and calling them racist will just antagonise them’ when the result is they keep voting in racists.

Pro tip: People don't push back against perceived attacks on their values when they don't perceive an attack on their values...

Politics are all about perception.

[Bombadil]

Well, we don’t know if it’s close and, to be fair, we don’t know whether Jones will romp to victory. Yet I find it just as condescending to say ‘oh leave them alone, they’re good decent people at heart and calling them racist will just antagonise them’ when the result is they keep voting in racists.

The problem is that when you stereotype people from Alabama as racist when not everyone actually votes for a racist, you're hurting the reputation of the ones who aren't.

Oh boo hoo.. then stop voting in racists.