Gun Control

[Valgora]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

Wasn't it 12 million, and I doubt that only three countries caused 500 million deaths due to gun control and atrocities cause by the people not having guns.

However, I get your point and it is a valid argument that I agree with.

[Telconi]

Gun Control 2: Keep posting, I'm reloading both barrels!

Poll: names that i have are either Guns a Gogo or Shiny Toy Guns

I only care that the fifth thread is named "Did they start six threads? Or only five?"

[Grinning Dragon]

Poll: names that i have are either Guns a Gogo or Shiny Toy Guns

I only care that the fifth thread is named "Did they start six threads? Or only five?"

"So you gotta ask yourself punk, do you feel lucky, well do ya?"
Dirty Harry for the win!

[Hurtful Thoughts]

1. You mean like a hunting-license requiring hunter-safety certification? A good chunk of that is in firearms-handling.

Most shooting ranges, likewise, require familiarity and to sign a paper that you are familiar with proper gun safety so they don't have to waste time warning people of unsafe behavior before banning yo behind off the range for lying.

Yes, but I suggest that the requirement be expanded to cover any use or transport of a firearm in usable condition requiring said license off of private property with the consent of the owner. Once one has the license, however, one can carry the firearm anywhere that the owner of the property has not explicitly forbade it.

That's pretty much exactly as it is now, with exception to on-duty police officers, doing police-officer-things with issue-firearms in places where firearms are usually prohibitted because some crimminals don't read that memo.

Heck, there was this one family that thought the brick wall of a school made an awesome backstop for their hunting-rifles...
^ Technically that's about 3 state felonies and a dozen township ordnances rolled into one thing.

There are laws not only on where you can shoot from in relation to other things and properties, but also what direction to shoot and when.
-Hunting-regs are for the most part gun-regs. Crack open a pamplet on the local laws this deer-season at your nearest gas-station and/or deer-weighing-station.

[The Two Jerseys]

Poll: names that i have are either Guns a Gogo or Shiny Toy Guns

I only care that the fifth thread is named "Did they start six threads? Or only five?"

The ninth thread will be "PING!".

[Wysten]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

Its 12 million and I think while a PPSH is a great gun I do hear rumors that they are not the greatest against a MG42 nest or a Tiger 1

[Hurtful Thoughts]

I only care that the fifth thread is named "Did they start six threads? Or only five?"

The ninth thread will be "PING!".

Eighth.

The En-block doesn't hold a 9th and you cannot ghost-load a garand...

[Valgora]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

Its 12 million and I think while a PPSH is a great gun I do hear rumors that they are not the greatest against a MG42 nest or a Tiger 1

PPs-43 was better than the PPSh.

[Wysten]

Its 12 million and I think while a PPSH is a great gun I do hear rumors that they are not the greatest against a MG42 nest or a Tiger 1

PPs-43 was better than the PPSh.

True but I use the PPSH as an example considering most people know of the burp gun than 43.

[The Two Jerseys]

The ninth thread will be "PING!".

Eighth.

The En-block doesn't hold a 9th and you cannot ghost-load a garand...

I was counting the 8th thread as the last round and the 9th as the ejection of the clip.

Though the more I think about it, since the clip ejects automatically it probably would make more sense for "PING!" to be the 8th thread.

[Gig em Aggies]

Eighth.

The En-block doesn't hold a 9th and you cannot ghost-load a garand...

I was counting the 8th thread as the last round and the 9th as the ejection of the clip.

Though the more I think about it, since the clip ejects automatically it probably would make more sense for "PING!" to be the 8th thread.

Or the 8th thread could be titled: The Hateful Eight
The 9th can be called: Nein Nein Nein

[The Two Jerseys]

I was counting the 8th thread as the last round and the 9th as the ejection of the clip.

Though the more I think about it, since the clip ejects automatically it probably would make more sense for "PING!" to be the 8th thread.

Or the 8th thread could be titled: The Hateful Eight
The 9th can be called: Nein Nein Nein

Congratulations, you've officially doomed #12 to be "The Dirty Dozen"!

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Eighth.

The En-block doesn't hold a 9th and you cannot ghost-load a garand...

I was counting the 8th thread as the last round and the 9th as the ejection of the clip.

Though the more I think about it, since the clip ejects automatically it probably would make more sense for "PING!" to be the 8th thread.

Except it pings on ejection of the 8th round, I consider the round fired when the thread is made, as teh OP is always in the past.

Would be hilarious if a "ping" occured every 8th time I edit a post.... I'd edit posts more often then.

[Tule]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

Ugh, this one is so bad it has its own Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

The main reason why the population of Russia and China couldn't resist with weapons is because they couldn't afford weapons.

What enabled Nazi Germany to commit its atrocities was citizen complacency. The Jews never stood a chance, they were a tiny minority in Germany and Europe.

[Fartsniffage]

Why do we need another megathread? This one changed no minds......

[Telconi]

Why do we need another megathread? This one changed no minds......

Whelp, Fart said it. Shut it down, all of NSG.

Also, my mind was changed through the course of the thread.

[Tule]

Why do we need another megathread? This one changed no minds......

I'm here to set the record straight, not to change minds.

I am fine with people saying: "Fuck off, I like guns. Why should I be punished for something someone else did?" It's honest and there is nothing wrong with that argument. That's the argument I make in favor of alcohol remaining legal.

But rhetoric that is completely against all logic and evidence irritates me to no end. And yet I can't stop myself from coming here...

[Telconi]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

Ugh, this one is so bad it has its own Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

The main reason why the population of Russia and China couldn't resist with weapons is because they couldn't afford weapons.

What enabled Nazi Germany to commit its atrocities was citizen complacency. The Jews never stood a chance, they were a tiny minority in Germany and Europe.

The fallacy comes in the idea that it was Nszi gun control laws that disarmed Jewish people wholesale. While they did confiscate guns from those they saw as unreliable, levels of firearms ownership in Weimar Germany were already low.

The counterfactual argument isn't so much "What if the Nazis hadn't passed the laws disarming Jews" and more "What if the Jews had been adequately armed."

You say the Jewish people were a small minority. While true, armed government agents are also a small minority of the population. At it's peak, the Wehrmacht had about 6.5 million personnel. The Schutzstaffel had less than a million at most. Given that far fewer of those personnel were actually fit to kick in doors and haul people off to camps, an armed Jewish populace, that managed to kill even one Nazi per family seized, would have made the holocaust unsustainable. And that's assuming the Third Reich could have committed it's ENTIRE army to the raiding of Jewish homes, given that they were fighting wars as well at this time, that's simply not feasible.

So, to clarify, the basis of this idea is that an atrocity such as the holocaust would be prohibitively resource consuming to execute if your target demographic was reasonably armed.

[The of Japan]

Why do we need another megathread? This one changed no minds......

I'm here to set the record straight, not to change minds.

I am fine with people saying: "Fuck off, I like guns. Why should I be punished for something someone else did?" It's honest and there is nothing wrong with that argument. That's the argument I make in favor of alcohol remaining legal.

But rhetoric that is completely against all logic and evidence irritates me to no end. And yet I can't stop myself from coming here...

and I'm here to set the record strait that some gun control is necessary, but overrestrictive gun control wont reduce gun crime in the US.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

The NSDAP actually somewhat strengthened gun rights for pure Germans and party members. Even if the weapons law hadn't been passed it's doubtful the minority groups would have been able to do much because they were just that, small minority groups.

[Osnil Returns]

I'm going to say this once and once only. The Nazis could murder 6 million people because of the Nazi Gun Control Law of 1935. Adding Russia and China to that brings the death toll to over 500 million due to gun control. By taking away the citizen's defense mechanisms, they could perform massive atrocities against the people *cough cough*.

Also, infringe means, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, "to encroach upon in a way that violates another's rights or the law."

Ugh, this one is so bad it has its own Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

The main reason why the population of Russia and China couldn't resist with weapons is because they couldn't afford weapons.

What enabled Nazi Germany to commit its atrocities was citizen complacency. The Jews never stood a chance, they were a tiny minority in Germany and Europe.

Twelve million people armed with guns wouldn't be as likely to be attacked. Same logic as putting up a sign that says, "We have guns here" and not getting robbed.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ugh, this one is so bad it has its own Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

The main reason why the population of Russia and China couldn't resist with weapons is because they couldn't afford weapons.

What enabled Nazi Germany to commit its atrocities was citizen complacency. The Jews never stood a chance, they were a tiny minority in Germany and Europe.

Twelve million people armed with guns wouldn't be as likely to be attacked. Same logic as putting up a sign that says, "We have guns here" and not getting robbed.

You'd do well to remember a great many of the people killed in the Holocaust weren't from Germany. They were from all over Europe so German gun laws didn't have a ton of impact on them.

[Sovaal]

Twelve million people armed with guns wouldn't be as likely to be attacked. Same logic as putting up a sign that says, "We have guns here" and not getting robbed.

You'd do well to remember a great many of the people killed in the Holocaust weren't from Germany. They were from all over Europe so German gun laws didn't have a ton of impact on them.

And we're also talking about a country that doesn't care about leveling villages because of partisans.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You'd do well to remember a great many of the people killed in the Holocaust weren't from Germany. They were from all over Europe so German gun laws didn't have a ton of impact on them.

And we're also talking about a country that doesn't care about leveling villages because of partisans.

Also that. The SA/SS/SD/Gestapo will just chuckle and flatten any place that resists.

[Telconi]

And we're also talking about a country that doesn't care about leveling villages because of partisans.

Also that. The SA/SS/SD/Gestapo will just chuckle and flatten any place that resists.

Yeah but how much quicker would the Nazis have fallen with that level of self inflicted attrition?