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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:11 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Zakuvia wrote:To be fair, China IS its own corporate master...

An approach which seems to work rather well, so maybe they're onto something.

And you think China has the answer when it comes to the internet?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:18 pm

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Hurdergaryp wrote:An approach which seems to work rather well, so maybe they're onto something.

And you think China has the answer when it comes to the internet?

China obviously doesn't, but we have treaded the line of censorship before *cough cough* SOPA.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:17 pm

Tribes Republic wrote:real net neutrally is leaving the internet alone

You do realize that the internet isn't just some abstract self-sustainable entity, right?
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Postby Herador » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:34 pm

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Tribes Republic wrote:real net neutrally is leaving the internet alone

You do realize that the internet isn't just some abstract self-sustainable entity, right?

It would be if we just turned the Allied Mastercomputer loose and hastened our nosedive into oblivion.
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Postby Tribes Republic » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:10 am

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Tribes Republic wrote:real net neutrally is leaving the internet alone

You do realize that the internet isn't just some abstract self-sustainable entity, right?


I know, but if we leave the internet alone, and we don't classify it as one thing or another then it would be better as people could use it as they see fit as along as they're not hurting anyone or taking their stuff.
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Postby Herador » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:38 am

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Liriena wrote:You do realize that the internet isn't just some abstract self-sustainable entity, right?


I know, but if we leave the internet alone, and we don't classify it as one thing or another then it would be better as people could use it as they see fit as along as they're not hurting anyone or taking their stuff.

I... don't think you get how the internet works.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:49 am

Herador wrote:
Tribes Republic wrote:
I know, but if we leave the internet alone, and we don't classify it as one thing or another then it would be better as people could use it as they see fit as along as they're not hurting anyone or taking their stuff.

I... don't think you get how the internet works.

It's this series of tubes, you see.
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Postby Herador » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:55 am

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Herador wrote:I... don't think you get how the internet works.

It's this series of tubes, you see.

God bless you, Al Gore.
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:40 am

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Tribes Republic wrote:
I know, but if we leave the internet alone, and we don't classify it as one thing or another then it would be better as people could use it as they see fit as along as they're not hurting anyone or taking their stuff.

I... don't think you get how the internet works.

Its a solid black box located at big ben guarded by the elders of the internet, right?
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Postby Herador » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:44 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Herador wrote:I... don't think you get how the internet works.

Its a solid black box located at big ben guarded by the elders of the internet, right?

...close enough, yeah.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:45 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Herador wrote:I... don't think you get how the internet works.

Its a solid black box located at big ben guarded by the elders of the internet, right?

They had to move it from Big Ben while they're doing repairs there.
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Postby Tyrassueb » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:48 am

Someone better call 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 and tell them to get their black box with the blinky light on it back.
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Postby Afrikaaners Ryk » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:54 am

Wait, this is happening in the US right?

If so, I might also be in a bit of trouble too because I live in Australia, and if the US kills net neutrality then Australia's going to follow suit because Australia has this thing where "We do what America-san does because we're bound to them because nobody else besides New Zealand, China and those smelly Pacific islands that always wreck us in rugby will help us, and plus they helped us that one time with the Japanese in WWII."

In short, Australia's probably going to copycat the USA and net neutrality's gonna cease on us too.
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Postby Tyrassueb » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:57 am

Afrikaaners Ryk wrote:Wait, this is happening in the US right?

If so, I might also be in a bit of trouble too because I live in Australia, and if the US kills net neutrality then Australia's going to follow suit because Australia has this thing where "We do what America-san does because we're bound to them because nobody else besides New Zealand, China and those smelly Pacific islands that always wreck us in rugby will help us, and plus they helped us that one time with the Japanese in WWII."

In short, Australia's probably going to copycat the USA and net neutrality's gonna cease on us too.


Better start trying to figure things out on your end then because this is a thing unless something drastic occurs to stop it.
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Postby Afrikaaners Ryk » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 am

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Afrikaaners Ryk wrote:Wait, this is happening in the US right?

If so, I might also be in a bit of trouble too because I live in Australia, and if the US kills net neutrality then Australia's going to follow suit because Australia has this thing where "We do what America-san does because we're bound to them because nobody else besides New Zealand, China and those smelly Pacific islands that always wreck us in rugby will help us, and plus they helped us that one time with the Japanese in WWII."

In short, Australia's probably going to copycat the USA and net neutrality's gonna cease on us too.


Better start trying to figure things out on your end then because this is a thing unless something drastic occurs to stop it.


Well, there is a chance maybe Australia and New Zealand could ignore the deal unless Trump really pushes them. I mean, this didn't stop Australia from legalizing gay marriage nationwide, and ANZ seems to do well with the Chinese. But then again, can ANZ and the Pacific Rugby Islands do anything against Drumpf?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Its a solid black box located at big ben guarded by the elders of the internet, right?

They had to move it from Big Ben while they're doing repairs there.

Rumours are that it is going to be relocated to Scandinavia, given the current instability of the British isles. Better save the internet from the clutches of a future failed state!
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Postby Xibei-San-Ma » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:15 am

Well, this certainly sucks. I hope, that it will not happen, and internet will remain neutral.

If it will pass, then at least in Latvia I will be able to browse internet freely... I hope so.
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Postby Herador » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:18 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:They had to move it from Big Ben while they're doing repairs there.

Rumours are that it is going to be relocated to Scandinavia, given the current instability of the British isles. Better safe the internet from the clutches of a future failed state!

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Xibei-San-Ma wrote:Well, this certainly sucks. I hope, that it will not happen, and internet will remain neutral.

If it will pass, then at least in Latvia I will be able to browse internet freely... I hope so.

You're lucky.

Us Australians and New Zealanders are going to get the pointy end of the stick because our politicians like to suck USA's big throbbing Florida.
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Postby Xelsis » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:37 am

Xibei-San-Ma wrote:Well, this certainly sucks. I hope, that it will not happen, and internet will remain neutral.

If it will pass, then at least in Latvia I will be able to browse internet freely... I hope so.


Latvia does not have net neutrality. Neither did American internet for the whole of its existence until 2015. Surprisingly, if you listen to net neutrality advocates, the internet wasn't taken over by evil greedy companies shutting down their customers, and actually did quite well for itself.

Net neutrality is a government power grab centred around fearmongering that all these evil things will happen if the internet isn't "neutral", despite the internet doing pretty darn well for itself over the whole of its existence without it.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:40 am

Xelsis wrote:
Xibei-San-Ma wrote:Well, this certainly sucks. I hope, that it will not happen, and internet will remain neutral.

If it will pass, then at least in Latvia I will be able to browse internet freely... I hope so.


Latvia does not have net neutrality. Neither did American internet for the whole of its existence until 2015. Surprisingly, if you listen to net neutrality advocates, the internet wasn't taken over by evil greedy companies shutting down their customers, and actually did quite well for itself.

Net neutrality is a government power grab centred around fearmongering that all these evil things will happen if the internet isn't "neutral", despite the internet doing pretty darn well for itself over the whole of its existence without it.

I did a quick google and found this article that claims :
The Latvian parliament is working on a draft law that will allow its telecoms regulator to hand out bigger fines to companies which violate EU rules on open internet.


Edit: Doesn't the EU have laws on Net Neutrality? Latvia has been a member since about 2004
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:54 am

Endynru wrote:Repealing net neutrality will be good for competition.

Choking small internet businesses to death has always been considered a good way to ensure economic diversity and freedom of choice, yes.


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Postby Herador » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:07 am

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Endynru wrote:Repealing net neutrality will be good for competition.

Choking small internet businesses to death has always been considered a good way to ensure economic diversity and freedom of choice, yes.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:09 am

Tribes Republic wrote:
Liriena wrote:You do realize that the internet isn't just some abstract self-sustainable entity, right?


I know, but if we leave the internet alone, and we don't classify it as one thing or another then it would be better as people could use it as they see fit as along as they're not hurting anyone or taking their stuff.

If you "leave the internet alone", that means leaving corporations like AT&T and CenturyLink unregulated.

I don't think you understand that the internet is built on infrastructure, which is owned by someone. And that someone is not its users.
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