FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[Petrasylvania]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/871873319166579238/3158685E3A61C94FE0354030504244A7FD9C0E54/

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So what are the symptoms?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

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So what are the symptoms?

Total Organ Failure, coma, and sneezing to name a few.

[Lockdownn]

I honestly don't get why anyone would support this.

People who honest to god believe in the conspiracy theories of the evil FCCs Net Neutrality yet have no actual idea that without it the internet would be completely different. *ahem* Some fucking idiot on facebook I had the privilege of arguing with.

[Painisia]

Well, I hope it won`t affect Europe

[Camicon]

Well, I hope it won`t affect Europe

Domestic regulations (or a lack thereof) in the US generally don't.

[The of Japan]

"We don't need Net Neutrality because we've never had problems without it".

Yeah, about that...

picture of reddit post not exactly valid source

[Ethel mermania]

So? For what reason should the government interfere with this?

Because they want to worsen your service to make more money despite the fact they make billions already?

I honestly don't get why anyone would support this.

If you own version stock, it's a good deal,
If you own netflix stock, it's a good thing.
If you believe the lagging in telecom investment dollars is due to a lack of oppertunity, you would support it as eell.

[-Ocelot-]

Well, I hope it won`t affect Europe

It will eventually. If this becomes the norm in the US, European ISPs will want a slice of that pie, too. The EU protects NN but that's not enough. European ISPs are already abusing zero rating exceptions for their mobile plans to see how people will reacted with cable-styled packages. They are already preparing for a fragmented internet.

[Greed and Death]

Well, I hope it won`t affect Europe

It will eventually. If this becomes the norm in the US, European ISPs will want a slice of that pie, too. The EU protects NN but that's not enough. European ISPs are already abusing zero rating exceptions for their mobile plans to see how people will reacted with cable-styled packages. They are already preparing for a fragmented internet.

Here is the list of countries without Net Neut.
Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Israel, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Russia, South Korea, and Slovenia.

Ive been to several of these countries the internet works fine.
http://fortune.com/2017/11/21/what-net- ... s-for-you/

All that you notice is on your phone in addition to buying data that you can use anywhere, you can also buy passes for specif uses like streaming video or social media. You either use Data or you use a pass and keep your data for other uses.

An example is if I am laid over for a day at the airport I can either spend an extra 20 dollars on data to stream video or I can buy a video streaming pass for 8 dollars. Why shouldn't I be able to save 12 bucks if I know exactly what I want to do for the day?

[-Ocelot-]

It will eventually. If this becomes the norm in the US, European ISPs will want a slice of that pie, too. The EU protects NN but that's not enough. European ISPs are already abusing zero rating exceptions for their mobile plans to see how people will reacted with cable-styled packages. They are already preparing for a fragmented internet.

Here is the list of countries without Net Neut.
Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Israel, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Russia, South Korea, and Slovenia.

Ive been to several of these countries the internet works fine.
http://fortune.com/2017/11/21/what-net- ... s-for-you/

All that you notice is on your phone in addition to buying data that you can use anywhere, you can also buy passes for specif uses like streaming video or social media. You either use Data or you use a pass and keep your data for other uses.

An example is if I am laid over for a day at the airport I can either spend an extra 20 dollars on data to stream video or I can buy a video streaming pass for 8 dollars. Why shouldn't I be able to save 12 bucks if I know exactly what I want to do for the day?

The internet works fine in these countries because there is competition. The US are filled with regional monopolies.

And even if they don't fragment the internet they will still be able to blocking websites easily for religious and political propaganda. This repeal is backed by Republicans only and they will use it to block unwanted information. It's naive to think otherwise.

Making the internet cable 2.0 is only one possible scenario. Maybe they will slow every single small website (e.g Nationstates) to a crawl unless if they pay up. Or maybe they will find some other way to restrict access and force everyone to pay more.

[Greed and Death]

Here is the list of countries without Net Neut.
Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Israel, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Russia, South Korea, and Slovenia.

Ive been to several of these countries the internet works fine.
http://fortune.com/2017/11/21/what-net- ... s-for-you/

All that you notice is on your phone in addition to buying data that you can use anywhere, you can also buy passes for specif uses like streaming video or social media. You either use Data or you use a pass and keep your data for other uses.

An example is if I am laid over for a day at the airport I can either spend an extra 20 dollars on data to stream video or I can buy a video streaming pass for 8 dollars. Why shouldn't I be able to save 12 bucks if I know exactly what I want to do for the day?

The internet works fine in these countries because there is competition. The US are filled with regional monopolies.

And even if they don't fragment the internet they will still be able to blocking websites easily for religious and political propaganda. This repeal is backed by Republicans only and they will use it to block unwanted information. It's naive to think otherwise.

Making the internet cable 2.0 is only one possible scenario. Maybe they will slow every single small website (e.g Nationstates) to a crawl unless if they pay up. Or maybe they will find some other way to restrict access and force everyone to pay more.

Korea and Japan do not have anti Trust laws as we know them. The governments of these two countries have basically decided that large corporations near monopolistic powers is a net societal good and have given govnerment preferences to them.

The Koreans call them Chaebols and the Japanese call them Keiresu. In Korea a dozen Chaebols control 80% of the GDP.

[Ethel mermania]

Here is the list of countries without Net Neut.
Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Israel, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Russia, South Korea, and Slovenia.

Ive been to several of these countries the internet works fine.
http://fortune.com/2017/11/21/what-net- ... s-for-you/

All that you notice is on your phone in addition to buying data that you can use anywhere, you can also buy passes for specif uses like streaming video or social media. You either use Data or you use a pass and keep your data for other uses.

An example is if I am laid over for a day at the airport I can either spend an extra 20 dollars on data to stream video or I can buy a video streaming pass for 8 dollars. Why shouldn't I be able to save 12 bucks if I know exactly what I want to do for the day?

The internet works fine in these countries because there is competition. The US are filled with regional monopolies.

And even if they don't fragment the internet they will still be able to blocking websites easily for religious and political propaganda. This repeal is backed by Republicans only and they will use it to block unwanted information. It's naive to think otherwise.

Making the internet cable 2.0 is only one possible scenario. Maybe they will slow every single small website (e.g Nationstates) to a crawl unless if they pay up. Or maybe they will find some other way to restrict access and force everyone to pay more.

NationStates doesn't suck up enought bandwith to slow down.

[Ifreann]

The internet works fine in these countries because there is competition. The US are filled with regional monopolies.

And even if they don't fragment the internet they will still be able to blocking websites easily for religious and political propaganda. This repeal is backed by Republicans only and they will use it to block unwanted information. It's naive to think otherwise.

Making the internet cable 2.0 is only one possible scenario. Maybe they will slow every single small website (e.g Nationstates) to a crawl unless if they pay up. Or maybe they will find some other way to restrict access and force everyone to pay more.

NationStates doesn't suck up enought bandwith to slow down.

Come on, everyone! Shitpost harder so our website will be relevant to current events!

[Petrasylvania]

NationStates doesn't suck up enought bandwith to slow down.

Come on, everyone! Shitpost harder so our website will be relevant to current events!

To do that here would require posting pics of actual shit.

[Greed and Death]

Come on, everyone! Shitpost harder so our website will be relevant to current events!

To do that here would require posting pics of actual shit.

We would need to create and stream video or argue on video in real time.

[Greed and Death]

Here is the list of countries without Net Neut.
Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Israel, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Russia, South Korea, and Slovenia.

Ive been to several of these countries the internet works fine.
http://fortune.com/2017/11/21/what-net- ... s-for-you/

All that you notice is on your phone in addition to buying data that you can use anywhere, you can also buy passes for specif uses like streaming video or social media. You either use Data or you use a pass and keep your data for other uses.

An example is if I am laid over for a day at the airport I can either spend an extra 20 dollars on data to stream video or I can buy a video streaming pass for 8 dollars. Why shouldn't I be able to save 12 bucks if I know exactly what I want to do for the day?

The internet works fine in these countries because there is competition. The US are filled with regional monopolies.

And even if they don't fragment the internet they will still be able to blocking websites easily for religious and political propaganda. This repeal is backed by Republicans only and they will use it to block unwanted information. It's naive to think otherwise.

Making the internet cable 2.0 is only one possible scenario. Maybe they will slow every single small website (e.g Nationstates) to a crawl unless if they pay up. Or maybe they will find some other way to restrict access and force everyone to pay more.

Lets talk about competition too.

The FCC redefined broadband as 25 MBs down stream in 2005.
https://www.mediapost.com/publications/ ... nitio.html

The interesting thing with this is 25 Megs download is enough to stream 5 HD videos at the same time.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Now why would the administration pick a needlessly narrow definition of broadband that excludes all mobile device and many ISPs and more than most Americans need ?

Would that be so it can be claimed ISPs have monopolies on 70% of the US market ? I would say so. A very Typical the govnerment creates a problem so that it can solve it.

[Ethel mermania]

To do that here would require posting pics of actual shit.

We would need to create and stream video or argue on video in real time.

Preferably in 4k video

[Greed and Death]

We would need to create and stream video or argue on video in real time.

Preferably in 4k video

Ulta HD I want to see my opponent's nose hairs when I yell at them.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Preferably in 4k video

Ulta HD I want to see my opponent's nose hairs when I yell at them.

Cinema 8K so I can see the most infinitesimal details of my opponents and make fun of their hair bent in a funny way *nods*

[Naval Monte]

When you have an effective monopoly like the ISPs do you ain't gotta do crap to keep your customers happy because there is nowhere else they can go to.

There may be monopolies of ISPs, but there are smaller ISPs around just many people don't know or don't want to use them because the larger ISPs lobby the government to keep them out of areas where they would have to compete with them. The more regulations we instill on ISPs the more of an incentive they have to lobby the government to get around them or work them in their favor.

Yes and if these changes trespasses than those little guys are screwed.

[Saiwania]

Standard Definition (SD) is good enough, it upsets me that all the online videos have HD as the lowest setting. It is driving up my bandwidth needs which drives up the cost of fast internet. Most video players should at least have an option to lower the quality down from 720p.

[Naval Monte]

I've researched this a little bit more, and i'm for repealing the bill.
I agree with it, but a lot of it is really not right.

I wouldn't mind an update down to Title II to fit with modern times but I don't want it being changed with Trump administration in charge of the government nor with Congress being made up of mostly Republicans cause I can only see it ending badly for the average American citizen.

[Hurdergaryp]

I've researched this a little bit more, and i'm for repealing the bill.
I agree with it, but a lot of it is really not right.

I wouldn't mind an update down to Title II to fit with modern times but I don't want it being changed with Trump administration in charge of the government nor with Congress being made up of mostly Republicans cause I can only see it ending badly for the average American citizen.

Gives them more incentive to become above average so that they can look down upon those below them.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Standard Definition (SD) is good enough, it upsets me that all the online videos have HD as the lowest setting. It is driving up my bandwidth needs which drives up the cost of fast internet. Most video players should at least have an option to lower the quality down from 720p.

>Video players somehow don't have the ability to go down below 720
What did he mean by this?

[Empire of Narnia]

If it goes through none of the apocalyptic doomsday stuff will happen. Very likely nobody will notice any real changes. Companies aren't stupid enough to block Youtube, they'd be ruined just for hinting at it.