FCC to repeal Net Neutrality Bill

[The Interstellar Federation]

I frankly don't even know if net neutrality exists here in Australia, since our internet speeds are so goddamn slow we would never tell the difference.

[Salandriagado]

So where is the STATES RIGHTS crowd during this open federal override?

The repeal of a federal rule is a federal override now ?

When it also includes a ban on states making their own laws on the subject, yes it fucking is.

But what'll be slowed? Will they implement a judgement system on prioritization? Will the government be able to attack sites it doesn't like and slow them down? I have so many questions yet nowhere to get answers...

The most common approach has been "oh, website A is paying us, so they can go at full speed, but all of their competitors can be slowed to a crawl. Unless those other competitors also want to pay us (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

But what'll be slowed? Will they implement a judgement system on prioritization? Will the government be able to attack sites it doesn't like and slow them down? I have so many questions yet nowhere to get answers...

Print websites no. Home internet you might notice something for file sharing services like bit torrents and p2p but the networks today are too fast to make paying for a fast lane worth it.

Now cellphone networks yes there is still an incentive to pay for a fast lane in streaming video service.

It's not a fast lane. It has never been a fast lane anywhere but in ISP propaganda. The supposed "fast lane" is just "current speeds", whereas everything else is throttled to hell and back.

I love all the people screaming REPUBLICANS CONTROL CONGRESS! THIS IS GUARENTEED TO HAPPEN! THE END IS NIGH! Wasn't that the same thing y'all were saying about the Obamacare repeal? How did that one work out? Right now, Republicans have 51 votes, and knowing how long it takes congress to do anything, I doubt they'll vote before Jones is sworn in. So that's a 50-50 tie. But either way, who's to say every Republican would vote for it?

For at least the third time in this thread: this isn't going through congress. It's going through a 5-person committee, three of whom are publicly in favour of it.

[Nordengrund]

I’ve been wanting to contact my congressman, but he opposes net neutrality and wrote a letter saying so to someone else who called him.

[Tribes Republic]

Here is a good entry on Wikipedia that explains Title 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States

I think that this is a good thing as ISPs were only placed under "Title 2" to combat problems that at the time were not happening at all.

Having the Internet is not a right

[Vassenor]

Here is a good entry on Wikipedia that explains Title 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States

I think that this is a good thing as ISPs were only placed under "Title 2" to combat problems that at the time were not happening at all.

Having the Internet is not a right

You mean like that time Comcast totally wasn't throttling Netflix until they paid up?

[Vassenor]

And this is before we get into all the laws that basically make it impossible for municipalities to construct their own network infrastructure and thus take power away from the ISPs.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qkvn4x/the-21-laws-states-use-to-crush-broadband-competition

[Ifreann]

I’ve been wanting to contact my congressman, but he opposes net neutrality and wrote a letter saying so to someone else who called him.

Contact him anyway.

[Tribes Republic]

Here is a good entry on Wikipedia that explains Title 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States

I think that this is a good thing as ISPs were only placed under "Title 2" to combat problems that at the time were not happening at all.

Having the Internet is not a right

You mean like that time Comcast totally wasn't throttling Netflix until they paid up?

I just don't think that government should touch the internet let the private sector deal with it. The rules that stop comcast or other ISPs from doing the practices that people don't also stop smaller ISPs from starting in the industry. We should be tell ISPs to compete with each other and we'd see prices fall.

[Alvecia]

You mean like that time Comcast totally wasn't throttling Netflix until they paid up?

I just don't think that government should touch the internet let the private sector deal with it. The rules that stop comcast or other ISPs from doing the practices that people don't also stop smaller ISPs from starting in the industry. We should be tell ISPs to compete with each other and we'd see prices fall.

Interestingly, saw the exact opposite view on Reddit earlier

[Ifreann]

I just don't think that government should touch the internet let the private sector deal with it. The rules that stop comcast or other ISPs from doing the practices that people don't also stop smaller ISPs from starting in the industry. We should be tell ISPs to compete with each other and we'd see prices fall.

Interestingly, saw the exact opposite view on Reddit earlier

But that's communism!

[Alvecia]

Interestingly, saw the exact opposite view on Reddit earlier

But that's communism!

Well, it was from a subreddit called /r/Latestagecapitalism.....

[Gagium]

I'm personally for repealing net neutrality. Before 2014, net neutrality laws weren't in place (At least the ones passed in 2014/2015), and the internet was still fine. Now all of a sudden, three years later, it's such a big deal that they're getting repealed? Let the companies compete to provide the best service; And, if they do decide to suddenly make access to certain websites paid (Which I don't really have any experiences of that happening before 2014, correct me if I'm wrong), then the act would restore the Federal Trade Commission's ability to protect people from unfair acts.

[Krankriet]

Personally I'd like to still visit YouTube and Twitter and such without having to pay extra.

[Socialist Tera]

I feel sorry for Americans if net neutrality gets repealed, it may even rear it's ugly head in Australia again. Also, I am sad that nobody is arguing for the repeal. I had my popcorn ready and everything.

[Gagium]

Personally I'd like to still visit YouTube and Twitter and such without having to pay extra.

These laws were introduced in 2014. Do you recall having to pay to visit youtube and twitter before that? And, like it says here, the FTC would still be able to protect consumers from unfair or deceptive practices.

[Tribes Republic]

Net Neutrality is leaving the internet alone as ISPs telling service to pay to get access to a fast lane almost never happens. ISPs, however could set up different internet speed "lanes" for customers, but then that would mean that a competitor could offer services at a lower rate that may be faster

[Krankriet]

Personally I'd like to still visit YouTube and Twitter and such without having to pay extra.

These laws were introduced in 2014. Do you recall having to pay to visit youtube and twitter before that? And, like it says here, the FTC would still be able to protect consumers from unfair or deceptive practices.

In 2014 I didn't visit YT or Twitter. I spent most of my days online doing school work on my school email.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Net Neutrality is leaving the internet alone as ISPs telling service to pay to get access to a fast lane almost never happens. ISPs, however could set up different internet speed "lanes" for customers, but then that would mean that a competitor could offer services at a lower rate that may be faster

They already offer varying speeds.

These are billionaires that want to make more money by squeezing more money from you.

[Gagium]

These laws were introduced in 2014. Do you recall having to pay to visit youtube and twitter before that? And, like it says here, the FTC would still be able to protect consumers from unfair or deceptive practices.

In 2014 I didn't visit YT or Twitter. I spent most of my days online doing school work on my school email.

Oh. Well, I personally don't remember having to pay to visit those sites, lol..

[Vassenor]

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Personally I'd like to still visit YouTube and Twitter and such without having to pay extra.

These laws were introduced in 2014. Do you recall having to pay to visit youtube and twitter before that? And, like it says here, the FTC would still be able to protect consumers from unfair or deceptive practices.

So if the rules didn't change anything why get rid of them?

[Viridus]

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These laws were introduced in 2014. Do you recall having to pay to visit youtube and twitter before that? And, like it says here, the FTC would still be able to protect consumers from unfair or deceptive practices.

So if the rules didn't change anything why get rid of them?

If the rules didn't change anything, why keep them?

[Gagium]

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These laws were introduced in 2014. Do you recall having to pay to visit youtube and twitter before that? And, like it says here, the FTC would still be able to protect consumers from unfair or deceptive practices.

So if the rules didn't change anything why get rid of them?

They do limit competition and investment, though they didn't have too much of an effect on internet speed. If we repeal it, the industry would become competitive again, allowing for corporations to compete with each other for lower prices and faster speeds, etc.

[Alvecia]

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So if the rules didn't change anything why get rid of them?

They do limit competition and investment, though they didn't have too much of an effect on internet speed. If we repeal it, the industry would become competitive again, allowing for corporations to compete with each other for lower prices and faster speeds, etc.

How does article 2 currently limit competitiveness in that regard, if you don’t mind me asking?

[Ifreann]

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So if the rules didn't change anything why get rid of them?

If the rules didn't change anything, why keep them?

Doing nothing is the default course of action.

[Gagium]

They do limit competition and investment, though they didn't have too much of an effect on internet speed. If we repeal it, the industry would become competitive again, allowing for corporations to compete with each other for lower prices and faster speeds, etc.

How does article 2 currently limit competitiveness in that regard, if you don’t mind me asking?

For one, Article II reclassified ISPs as common carriers, imposing utility regulation on them and limiting competitiveness by restricting the way companies can lower/raise their prices and rates to compete which each other.