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The Flutterlands
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:42 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
You missed the point of the all the "compromise" talk if you think we are telling you need to compromise on Net Neutrality. The "compromise" is voting for someone you don't really like because they would have prevented shit like this from happening. Sometimes you have to decide if somethings you want or don't want are more important than your personal feelings about a person. Turns out, for you, you'd rather hate on a person than get some things you wanted, including Net Neutrality. That's fine, but understand that's the choice you are making given how our system works.

That said, there is a really good way to fix the situation. It's called voting. It's a little bit long of a process, and it takes time, and you don't get everything you want out of it, but it does work to a degree.

In the meantime, this is not the end of the world and no, your rights are not being infringed. It's just super shitty and douchey to do.


Basically, this.

Did I want to vote for Clinton? Fuck no. But I voted for her anyways because she wasn't Trump.

That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:42 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:"Anger without direction merely stirs"

My anger does have direction. It is directed at all those who are hell bent on passing draconian anti-consumer polices that fuck us over....

Well I hope a giant meteor lands on the FCC with everyone inside. Maybe that would stop them from doing any harm and no one would have done anything illegal....

I suppose praying for a meteor is half a step up from "VIVA LA REVOLUÇION!!"
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:42 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:"Anger without direction merely stirs"

My anger does have direction. It is directed at all those who are hell bent on passing draconian anti-consumer polices that fuck us over....

Well I hope a giant meteor lands on the FCC with everyone inside. Maybe that would stop them from doing any harm and no one would have done anything illegal....

What do you hope to accomplish? Given that, how do you plan on doing it? Most of us have resigned because we see nothing we can do
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:42 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Basically, this.

Did I want to vote for Clinton? Fuck no. But I voted for her anyways because she wasn't Trump.

That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.

No, you directly voted for Tweedledum.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Valgora » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:42 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:My anger does have direction. It is directed at all those who are hell bent on passing draconian anti-consumer polices that fuck us over....

Well I hope a giant meteor lands on the FCC with everyone inside. Maybe that would stop them from doing any harm and no one would have done anything illegal....

I suppose praying for a meteor is half a step up from "VIVA LA REVOLUÇION!!"


It's a step down, because praying ain't going to do anything.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:43 pm

Valgora wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:I suppose praying for a meteor is half a step up from "VIVA LA REVOLUÇION!!"


It's a step down, because praying ain't going to do anything.

Freak chance of people getting killed however.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:43 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:My anger does have direction. It is directed at all those who are hell bent on passing draconian anti-consumer polices that fuck us over....

Well I hope a giant meteor lands on the FCC with everyone inside. Maybe that would stop them from doing any harm and no one would have done anything illegal....

I suppose praying for a meteor is half a step up from "VIVA LA REVOLUÇION!!"

I personally wouldn't mind a meteor hitting the Earth right now.

Hell, it's in my sig...
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:44 pm

I know this is normal nowadays, but man, these last few weeks have been wild.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:44 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:"Anger without direction merely stirs"

My anger does have direction.

What do you plan on doing then?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:44 pm

Corrian wrote:I know this is normal nowadays, but man, these last few weeks have been wild.

Have they? I've been out of it.
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Postby Valgora » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:45 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Basically, this.

Did I want to vote for Clinton? Fuck no. But I voted for her anyways because she wasn't Trump.

That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.


The US is still a Republic.
Does that mean it's not fucked up? No. Because there is a clear problem with only having two parties.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:45 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:My anger does have direction. It is directed at all those who are hell bent on passing draconian anti-consumer polices that fuck us over....

Well I hope a giant meteor lands on the FCC with everyone inside. Maybe that would stop them from doing any harm and no one would have done anything illegal....

What do you hope to accomplish? Given that, how do you plan on doing it? Most of us have resigned because we see nothing we can do

Why should you resign? There is plenty that you can do to fight back against this attack. Resigning is bending over and allowing yourself to be fucked. That makes you weak. Don't be weak. There must be something we can do to take power back from these fucks before they do anymore harm...
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:45 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.


That's exactly what a Democracy is.

You're not exactly free to choose who you want to vote for. The decision has been largely made up for you by other people.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:46 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Basically, this.

Did I want to vote for Clinton? Fuck no. But I voted for her anyways because she wasn't Trump.

That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.

Then be angry at the EC.
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Postby Valgora » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:46 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Valgora wrote:
It's a step down, because praying ain't going to do anything.

Freak chance of people getting killed however.


The freak chance exists with or without the praying.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:48 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:What do you hope to accomplish? Given that, how do you plan on doing it? Most of us have resigned because we see nothing we can do

Why should you resign? There is plenty that you can do to fight back against this attack. Resigning is bending over and allowing yourself to be fucked. That makes you weak. Don't be weak. There must be something we can do to take power back from these fucks before they do anymore harm...

Hey there's nothing weak about bending over and being fucked, my glutes are straight savage yo.
Seriously though. Short f overthrowing the system, which I will not do, what could I do?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:48 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Basically, this.

Did I want to vote for Clinton? Fuck no. But I voted for her anyways because she wasn't Trump.

That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.


Says the person who voted Trump to stop Clinton.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:49 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Basically, this.

Did I want to vote for Clinton? Fuck no. But I voted for her anyways because she wasn't Trump.

That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.


That sounds cool from a teacher or book but reality doesn't work that way.

You voted for Trump and you are bitching about all the crap his is doing. Many of us don't care for Clinton but we voted for her simply because she wasn't going to do as much of the crap Trump was going to do.

You are not going to get sympathy on your "outrage"

Best you do something about it or dig in an hope the screwover will end in 3 years.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:50 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:That is not a democracy. The only thing that matters in a democracy is what you want to pick, not picking just Tweedledee to stop Tweedledum.


Says the person who voted Trump to stop Clinton.


And to punish Bernie for betrayal!
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:53 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Corrian wrote:I know this is normal nowadays, but man, these last few weeks have been wild.

Have they? I've been out of it.

It has been only 2 weeks since the indictment stuff, and oh boy, it has been wild since. sexual allegations left and right (Literally), more people potentially getting set up for indictments really fast, Roy Moore stuff specifically, the Virginia major surprise, ect, ect.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:54 pm

Corrian wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Have they? I've been out of it.

It has been only 2 weeks since the indictment stuff, and oh boy, it has been wild since. sexual allegations left and right (Literally), more people potentially getting set up for indictments really fast, Roy Moore stuff specifically, the Virginia major surprise, ect, ect.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:07 pm

The of Japan wrote:Trump is a bad president, that is certain. Hillary was not the best candidate for the Democrats, I hope we can agree on that. Would Hillary be as bad as trump? With the corruption investigations into Clinton for her involvement in the selling of Uranium one to Rosatom, It could be concluded she would not be the best.

You mean the investigation the Republicans want to do to distract from the Mueller investigation. Oh yes, that's very concerning. And maybe when they've done it 14 times and still not pinned anything on Clinton it'll still be concerning.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:08 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:What do you hope to accomplish? Given that, how do you plan on doing it? Most of us have resigned because we see nothing we can do

Why should you resign? There is plenty that you can do to fight back against this attack. Resigning is bending over and allowing yourself to be fucked. That makes you weak. Don't be weak. There must be something we can do to take power back from these fucks before they do anymore harm...

Getting fucked doesn't make you weak. Hell i do it all the time ;) :p
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Why should you resign? There is plenty that you can do to fight back against this attack. Resigning is bending over and allowing yourself to be fucked. That makes you weak. Don't be weak. There must be something we can do to take power back from these fucks before they do anymore harm...

Getting fucked doesn't make you weak. Hell i do it all the time ;) :p

How about letting yourself get fucked in an abusive relationship?
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:37 pm

Last I checked, Clinton had nothing to even do with the Uranium deal.
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