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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:24 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:You need to stop calling yourself a Bernie supporter. Because when Bernie needed your support you said "Fuck no Judas!" and voted for Trump.

I did not betray Bernie, Bernie betrayed me by making a deal with who represented everything he opposed and told us to oppose...

Ah yes, It's Not Your Fault. Absolutely no conviction at all. You probably called yourself a Sanders supporter because it was the new hip thing and it might get you chicks.
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Postby Camicon » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:25 pm

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Camicon wrote:YOU HAVEN'T FUCKING TRIED IT YET.

Jesus-motherfucking-goddamn-Christ-on-a-shit-covered-shingle. Do you know why the Republicans weren't able to gut Obamacare like they planned, despite holding a majority in both the House and Senate? Because the constituents of a few Republican Senators made some noise, and made themselves heard, and convinced their Senators to not support it.

Yes, destroying net neutrality would be a bad thing. No, it is not irreversible. Yes, Americans can survive the year it would take to flip the House and introduce a legislative solution to repair and protect net neutrality. If you go out and actually do something about it, instead of sitting at your fucking computer and bitching on these forums about how you were naive enough to be take a career conman and fraudster at face value when you voted him into the most powerful office on the face of the fucking planet.

Now enough of your fucking pity party. Nobody wants to hear it. Get a blog.

1.) They are fucking trying again by putting the repeal of the individual mandate into their "tax reform". So they learned nothing from all the protests.

No, they learned that they have no way of gutting Obamacare if the public catches wind of what they are trying to do. Bundling their massively unpopular gutting of Obamacare with a massively unpopular tax "reform" bill isn't going to get either one passed. They're trying to hide a shit sandwich inside of another shit sandwich, and it isn't fooling anyone.

That's the one possible benefit of this clusterfuck of an administration you've got; people are actually paying attention to this shit for a change. Mark my words, it won't happen.

2.) The point is to stop them from repealing net neutrality at all cost, not waiting a year and leaving it up to chance of whether or not the Democrats will take back the house and Senate. Besides, it will be too late by then. The damage would already be done. It may be "reversible" but the point is that it has been done. I want to stop it, not fix it and live a year or tree with cable like internet.

Yeah, well, tough shit. Maybe you shouldn't have have shilled and voted for Trump. The only options left to those who want to protect net neutrality are rallying the American people that such an extent that so much as the suggestion of getting rid of it is more toxic than polonium, or flipping the House during the midterms and seeking a legislative solution. You don't get to slam on the brakes and dictate to the country what you will and will not allow, that isn't how this works.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:26 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:You need to stop calling yourself a Bernie supporter. Because when Bernie needed your support you said "Fuck no Judas!" and voted for Trump.

I did not betray Bernie, Bernie betrayed me by making a deal with who represented everything he opposed and told us to oppose...

Look dude you can't get everything you want. If we could I wouldn't have had a fucked up childhood.
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Postby Luminesa » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:26 pm

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Actually. I'm done being nice.

We get it, Flutters. You didn't get whatever the fuck you wanted. You're not the centre of the fucking universe, you're not that fucking important, you do not have the final say on anything in life or in this country, and your opinion means absolute jack-fucking-shit, and no, life isn't fucking fair,e get the fuck use to it, or shut the fuck up for once. You have done nothing but been a fucking, and incessant pain our asses for days now to the point that you have derailed conversations to focus on the fucking tantrum you're having, and that you continue to have over and over again. Nobody fucking cares. I'm at the point that I'm doing giving a single damn about what you think, what your fucking opinions are, or who the fuck you wanted to win in this past election. Grow the fuck up.

It's not just that I didn't get what I want, it's that I was made to choose between two things I didn't want. Like I have said, I should have voted third party. Heck, God himself could tell me to vote for Hillary and I still wouldn't vote for her....

(Going without saying that God would not tell you to vote for Hillary because Hillary is staunchly pro-abortion and whatnot, and the Catholic Church specifically said knowingly voting for a candidate who is pro-abortion will get you excommunicated...which I suppose is the main reason why I voted Third Party, because Trump wasn’t very god-fearing himself, regardless of what other people might say.)

*AHEM.*

Anyway! Flutter, get off the computer, contact the FCC, and quit stroking your despair like it’s fluffy Persian. Unlike with fluffy Persians, you will get no happiness or contentment, only continual anger and frustration.
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Postby Seangoli » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:26 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:You need to stop calling yourself a Bernie supporter. Because when Bernie needed your support you said "Fuck no Judas!" and voted for Trump.

I did not betray Bernie, Bernie betrayed me by making a deal with who represented everything he opposed and told us to oppose...


She didn't represent everything he opposed. She actually represented a good deal of the things he wanted.

Hell, he wasn't even opposed to Hillary at all. He was pushing for an agenda ofnsocial Democracy. Hisnsupporters decided that he was about anti establishment politics, even though that was not his message or platform.


Bernie decided that being an adult and getting some ofnwhat you call for is better than being a petulent child and getting the exact opposite. He also was not so ridiculous as to think Hillaru was literally satan because the Republicans and internet children said so.

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Postby Luminesa » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:28 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:I did not betray Bernie, Bernie betrayed me by making a deal with who represented everything he opposed and told us to oppose...

Ah yes, It's Not Your Fault. Absolutely no conviction at all. You probably called yourself a Sanders supporter because it was the new hip thing and it might get you chicks.

It’s never his fault, it’s everyone else’s. It’s almost like he has his own orbit.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:32 pm

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New haven america wrote:No, you should have done what Bernie did and supported Clinton, that was literally the only way you could've avoided this.

Fuck that kind of democracy. It was shit vs shit. That is not a choice. It's like choosing to hang myself to blow my brains out...

Well that's just too fucking bad, and to add to the stack of problems with this, you claim to be a Bernie supporter, and yet you decided to betray him and throw a temper tantrum.

You wanted Trump, you got him, knock off the whining.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:35 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:It's not just that I didn't get what I want, it's that I was made to choose between two things I didn't want. Like I have said, I should have voted third party. Heck, God himself could tell me to vote for Hillary and I still wouldn't vote for her....

(Going without saying that God would not tell you to vote for Hillary because Hillary is staunchly pro-abortion and whatnot, and the Catholic Church specifically said knowingly voting for a candidate who is pro-abortion will get you excommunicated...which I suppose is the main reason why I voted Third Party, because Trump wasn’t very god-fearing himself, regardless of what other people might say.)

*AHEM.*

Anyway! Flutter, get off the computer, contact the FCC, and quit stroking your despair like it’s fluffy Persian. Unlike with fluffy Persians, you will get no happiness or contentment, only continual anger and frustration.

I have contacted them. I gave them comments but it turns out he doesn't care. If he did care, one wouldn't think that they would still be trying to push for the repeal...
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:37 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Fuck that kind of democracy. It was shit vs shit. That is not a choice. It's like choosing to hang myself to blow my brains out...

Well that's just too fucking bad, and to add to the stack of problems with this, you claim to be a Bernie supporter, and yet you decided to betray him and throw a temper tantrum.

You wanted Trump, you got him, knock off the whining.

I wanted to give him a chance but now I see what a mistake it was and saw that I should have voted third party or not have voted...
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:41 pm

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New haven america wrote:Well that's just too fucking bad, and to add to the stack of problems with this, you claim to be a Bernie supporter, and yet you decided to betray him and throw a temper tantrum.

You wanted Trump, you got him, knock off the whining.

I wanted to give him a chance but now I see what a mistake it was and saw that I should have voted third party or not have voted...

No, you should have done what the man who you claim to be a supporter of said: Vote for Clinton.

But no, you and many other Bernie "Supporters" decided to have a temper tantrum, and you are now reaping what you have sewn.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:41 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:It's not just that I didn't get what I want, it's that I was made to choose between two things I didn't want. Like I have said, I should have voted third party. Heck, God himself could tell me to vote for Hillary and I still wouldn't vote for her....


oh FFS. You didn't want Hillary and you voted for Trump and you bitch and moan about what he is doing.

You got what you wanted. Own it.



The Flutterlands wrote:I did not betray Bernie, Bernie betrayed me by making a deal with who represented everything he opposed and told us to oppose...


Bernie doesn't know you. How could he betray you.

Bernie did the adult thing. "Hillary is a bitch but this fucker is going to screw us over! Vote for her!"
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:42 pm

Anyway, just know that 2016 was the shittiest election ever. I made the wrong choice and I pray to God that the Democrats don't make the same mistake in 2020 by pushing yet another unpopular candidate....
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:43 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:I wanted to give him a chance but now I see what a mistake it was and saw that I should have voted third party or not have voted...

No, you should have done what the man who you claim to be a supporter of said: Vote for Clinton.

But no, you and many other Bernie "Supporters" decided to have a temper tantrum, and you are now reaping what you have sewn.

Being told you only have one real choice ruins the point of democracy...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:43 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Anyway, just know that 2016 was the shittiest election ever. I am the wrong choice and I pray to God that the Democrats don't make the same mistake in 2020 by pushing yet another unpopular candidate....

Worked for the Republicans. You fell for it.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:43 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Anyway, just know that 2016 was the shittiest election ever. I am the wrong choice and I pray to God that the Democrats don't make the same mistake in 2020 by pushing yet another unpopular candidate....

Don't get our hopes up. Before we know it I'll be putting up signs for Pence 2024.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:44 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:I wanted to give him a chance but now I see what a mistake it was and saw that I should have voted third party or not have voted...


Voting third party which has no hope in hell of winning or staying home is the same as voting for Trump (or Hillary if she won).
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:45 pm

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New haven america wrote:No, you should have done what the man who you claim to be a supporter of said: Vote for Clinton.

But no, you and many other Bernie "Supporters" decided to have a temper tantrum, and you are now reaping what you have sewn.

Being told you only have one real choice ruins the point of democracy...

Yeah well, though shit, deal with it.

Don't like it? Join the anti-EC brigade, we have cookies.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:46 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:I wanted to give him a chance but now I see what a mistake it was and saw that I should have voted third party or not have voted...


Voting third party which has no hope in hell of winning or staying home is the same as voting for Trump (or Hillary if she won).

No it is not. I can't be fucking stuck with these horrible choices.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:47 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Voting third party which has no hope in hell of winning or staying home is the same as voting for Trump (or Hillary if she won).

No it is not. I can't be fucking stuck with these horrible choices.

https://youtu.be/bLJTAqnmHt0

Seeing how the EC works, yes it is, you might as well have voted for Trump if you went 3rd party.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:No it is not. I can't be fucking stuck with these horrible choices.

https://youtu.be/bLJTAqnmHt0

Seeing how the EC works, yes it is, you might as well have voted for Trump if you went 3rd party.

Then fuck the EC....
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:50 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:No it is not. I can't be fucking stuck with these horrible choices.

https://youtu.be/bLJTAqnmHt0

Seeing how the EC works, yes it is, you might as well have voted for Trump if you went 3rd party.

I miss the election of 1824, back when 3rd party candidates actually had a chance.
Or most points in America's history before now.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:50 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Anyway, just know that 2016 was the shittiest election ever. I made the wrong choice and I pray to God that the Democrats don't make the same mistake in 2020 by pushing yet another unpopular candidate....


Kamala Harris 2020 is gonna happen because you said that.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:51 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Anyway, just know that 2016 was the shittiest election ever. I am the wrong choice and I pray to God that the Democrats don't make the same mistake in 2020 by pushing yet another unpopular candidate....

Worked for the Republicans. You fell for it.

The Democrats put him up because they saw him as a beatable opponent iirc...
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:52 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Anyway, just know that 2016 was the shittiest election ever. I am the wrong choice and I pray to God that the Democrats don't make the same mistake in 2020 by pushing yet another unpopular candidate....

Don't get our hopes up. Before we know it I'll be putting up signs for Pence 2024.

Please don't, I have enough nightmares already.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:54 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Worked for the Republicans. You fell for it.

The Democrats put him up because they saw him as a beatable opponent iirc...

So the Democrats somehow rigged the 15-man clown car called the Republican Primaries to guarantee Trump would win. Please wait until I set up the theme to The X-Files on YouTube before you explain to me in detail how this worked.
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