Scientists issue 'warning to humanity'

[Fauxia]

Aaaaaaaaaand no one will offer a realistic compromise and nothing will happen. Reduce your quality of life and have less kids. Lol ok. Good thing I love warm weather and swimming in the ocean.

Stop using coal, start using fission and fusion.

Agreed. I love nuclear power

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Stop using coal, start using fission and fusion.

Tell china that, America is like the leader of Fusion and Japan is using it as well. I think most countries are using it, actually. Exception of China and North Korea and the poor countries like the middle east and Africa.

No one is using fusion right now.

We have the technology,and it's close, but it needs a little more time and money.

[The Widening Gyre]

So a low number of people, that is all I need to remain as skeptical as you are trying to make something out of something small. See I just grabbed onto that 97% that you now just changed to 97.5%. While I did grab the 500,000 out of my ass, I even admitted that in the above post. When I first mentioned it as I said that is being lenient as by estimation of the given math, it would be actually much higher. I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, until you just proven to me. That the statistics are bias towards only a small and few individuals.

The statistics show that the more knowledge a given scientist has about climate science, the more likely they are to support AGW.

In contrast, 97.5% of climatologists who actively publish research on climate change responded yes. As the level of active research and specialization in climate science increases, so does agreement that humans are significantly changing global temperatures.

To that extent it doesn't matter what the rest of your imaginary 500 000 think, because they're not experts. As you noted, they're environmental scientists, which can be hydrologists, geologists, geochemists any number of specializations, but none of whom have any special knowledge of climate science. They are as good as laymen, just as these climate scientists are as good as laymen if you asked them about oncogenic tumour promotion or loop quantum gravity.

[Principality of the Raix]

Tell china that, America is like the leader of Fusion and Japan is using it as well. I think most countries are using it, actually. Exception of China and North Korea and the poor countries like the middle east and Africa.

No one is using fusion right now.

We have the technology,and it's close, but it needs a little more time and money.

Over 20 countries use Nuclear power, though fission and fusion are different. That is the source.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-countries-with-the-most-nuclear-reactors-2011-10

[Fauxia]

I’m told that the 97% stat includes people like Bill Nye, who aren’t experts, and that it’s really more like 96.95%.



No, a little lower than that. Probably 85-90%. Still a concensus

[Principality of the Raix]

I’m told that the 97% stat includes people like Bill Nye, who aren’t experts, and that it’s really more like 96.95%.



No, a little lower than that. Probably 85-90%. Still a concensus

So once more, the assured guy is actually wrong... surprising... not really, honestly this is why I am a skeptic. No one is ever truly correct or right.

[Arlenton]

Aaaaaaaaaand no one will offer a realistic compromise and nothing will happen. Reduce your quality of life and have less kids. Lol ok. Good thing I love warm weather and swimming in the ocean.

Stop using coal, start using fission and fusion.

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

People buying more and more and more of a thing sense the 90's and at the same time it's dying.

What.

I repeated the explanation in short and apparently I don't understand it.

What.

Your teenager comment makes no sense.

I love all your assumptions, like this one based on my age. Funny.

So, people buy more cars to replace the old cars yet you still say that cars are dying out?

[People buying more and more and more of a thing sense the 90's and at the same time it's dying.]They are, but you got to understand the market. [ apparently I don't understand your explanation] Which you obviously do not, seeing as you do not understand the explaination. [teenager comment]Which is rather most contributed to by the fact that teenagers are gaining their license or those without a license are gaining them to allow the market to explode like every year previously.

I didn't assume anything.

I took what you said and said how it made no sense whatsoever.

[Principality of the Raix]

Stop using coal, start using fission and fusion.

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

Governmental regulation for coal=Send it to china to keep North korea from getting money.

[Fauxia]

Stop using coal, start using fission and fusion.

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

While I generally support laissez-faire, I am not so when it comes to the environment. You don’t let businesses make money off of pollution and making the weather hotter

[Arlenton]

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

While I generally support laissez-faire, I am not so when it comes to the environment. You don’t let businesses make money off of pollution and making the weather hotter

Why not?

[The Widening Gyre]

I’m told that the 97% stat includes people like Bill Nye, who aren’t experts, and that it’s really more like 96.95%.



No, a little lower than that. Probably 85-90%. Still a concensus

Read the figure - amongst climatologists who have published in the literature.

[Fauxia]

While I generally support laissez-faire, I am not so when it comes to the environment. You don’t let businesses make money off of pollution and making the weather hotter

Why not?

Because that’s almost as bad as making money off of murder?

[Arlenton]

Why not?

Because that’s almost as bad as making money off of murder?

Making the weather nicer and putting me closer to the beach is equivalent to murder?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

No one is using fusion right now.

We have the technology,and it's close, but it needs a little more time and money.

Over 20 countries use Nuclear power, though fission and fusion are different. That is the source.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-countries-with-the-most-nuclear-reactors-2011-10

Yes.

But you just said that people where using fusion:

Tell china that, America is like the leader of Fusion and Japan is using it as well. I think most countries are using it, actually. Exception of China and North Korea and the poor countries like the middle east and Africa.

Also, Africa and the middle east are not countries.

Stop using coal, start using fission and fusion.

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

I trust the market about as much as I can throw it.

But, fission is much more efficient then coal anyway, and should be expanded upon.

[Principality of the Raix]

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

While I generally support laissez-faire, I am not so when it comes to the environment. You don’t let businesses make money off of pollution and making the weather hotter

I say, so long as we are just letting china burn the coal. I say let them, maybe the smog will make them change after they pollute themselves enough. Why should we worry about it? As shown by many scientists, the melting of glaciers is natural and even then that is not to mention that the Antarctica just gained more glaciers through climate becoming colder recently. I mean, it shows no change right now as far as China as they are just blaming everyone else and not themselves. Much like these so called scientists, that have just been proven to be nothing more then guess what, not experts.

[Arlenton]

Over 20 countries use Nuclear power, though fission and fusion are different. That is the source.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-countries-with-the-most-nuclear-reactors-2011-10

Yes.

But you just said that people where using fusion:

Tell china that, America is like the leader of Fusion and Japan is using it as well. I think most countries are using it, actually. Exception of China and North Korea and the poor countries like the middle east and Africa.

Also, Africa and the middle east are not countries.

Stop using coal by having the market make it obsolete? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop using coal by government regulation? Hell no.

I trust the market about as much as I can throw it.

But, fission is much more efficient then coal anyway, and should be expanded upon.

If it's more efficient and all around better, which I believe is true, then why further regulate coal when it will eventually be replaced?

[Principality of the Raix]

Tell china that, America is like the leader of Fusion and Japan is using it as well. I think most countries are using it, actually. Exception of China and North Korea and the poor countries like the middle east and Africa.

Also, Africa and the middle east are not countries.

Obviously I meant the countries within them as a whole. I mean do you really need me to name ALL the countries within an area, that we all pretty much understand what I mean.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yes.

But you just said that people where using fusion:



Also, Africa and the middle east are not countries.




I trust the market about as much as I can throw it.

But, fission is much more efficient then coal anyway, and should be expanded upon.

If it's more efficient and all around better, which I believe is true, then why further regulate coal when it will eventually be replaced?

Same reason why Ripley wanted to nuke LV-426.

Be safe then sorry, less carbon in the air, the better.

Also, Africa and the middle east are not countries.

Obviously I meant the countries within them as a whole. I mean do you really need me to name ALL the countries within an area, that we all pretty much understand what I mean.

Just saying as a nitpick.

[Arlenton]

If it's more efficient and all around better, which I believe is true, then why further regulate coal when it will eventually be replaced?

Same reason why Ripley wanted to nuke LV-426.

Be safe then sorry, less carbon in the air, the better.

That doesn't seem fair to me.
Also would stunt the advances of non-renewable resources if the government just ends their competition.

Yet another reason nothing will happen after these warnings.

[Principality of the Raix]

Same reason why Ripley wanted to nuke LV-426.

Be safe then sorry, less carbon in the air, the better.

Nuking is the worse idea, each time you nuke something the temperatures drop and this is a proven science. Though I do not know why we still let North korea get away with it... I mean besides the fact it could cause two scenario's not very good, if big bombs went off and to let them keep doing it like it's a hay day in an American party on someones day off and that is a poor example, i know.

[Fauxia]

Same reason why Ripley wanted to nuke LV-426.

Be safe then sorry, less carbon in the air, the better.

That doesn't seem fair to me.
Also would stunt the advances of non-renewable resources if the government just end their competition.

Yet another reason nothing will happen after these warnings.

Nothing will doesn’t mean nothing should

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Same reason why Ripley wanted to nuke LV-426.

Be safe then sorry, less carbon in the air, the better.

Nuking is the worse idea, each time you nuke something the temperatures drop and this is a proven science. Though I do not know why we still let North korea get away with it... I mean besides the fact it could cause two scenario's not very good, if big bombs went off and to let them keep doing it like it's a hay day in an American party on someones day off and that is a poor example, i know.

Same reason why Ripley wanted to nuke LV-426.

Be safe then sorry, less carbon in the air, the better.

That doesn't seem fair to me.
Also would stunt the advances of non-renewable resources if the government just ends their competition.

Yet another reason nothing will happen after these warnings.

It's overall for the best if we just end them now.

Thats not really a reason why.In fact, alt energy sources are still being experimented with everyday.

[Albrenia]

Because that’s almost as bad as making money off of murder?

Making the weather nicer and putting me closer to the beach is equivalent to murder?

You're just joking about the 'nicer weather' thing, right?

It's hard to tell these days.

[Arlenton]

Making the weather nicer and putting me closer to the beach is equivalent to murder?

You're just joking about the 'nicer weather' thing, right?

It's hard to tell these days.

No, I'm not joking.