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Xoriet
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Goodbye NationStates

Postby Xoriet » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:27 pm

No, I am not unretiring and coming back. I didn’t actually say goodbye to anyone when I left, just up and quit Discord and all other forms of social media, so I guess this will be my farewell.

This is my goodbye to NationStates and everyone in this game, and I am going to use it to pass a message to players, both male and female, who may be in the situation I was once in.

The issue I have spent the most time on in this game has nothing to do with the game itself. Most of you, or at least the ones who were around when I was, know this. Oh, it is tangentially related, as the case against harassment and abuse certainly involves the players, but it is not about game mechanics or anything related to onsite politics and happenings.

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When I first joined NationStates, as I have said before, I was a humble issue nation with aspirations to join a roleplaying region that my boyfriend at the time belonged to. I lingered for a few years, and read around. Eventually I discovered The East Pacific had a community and a forum, and my time in Gameplay began. One would think that it would be a nice entry, because TEP’s community is amazing and I love it so very much. I did enjoy it, enough to stick around. Unfortunately, that was not what I remember most about my entry into this game.

What do I remember most about my early days? I remember how I met the male player who changed my life in every bad way imaginable.

He was my General in EPSA, and I respected him immensely. I relied on him and trusted him above all others. What I did not know about him was that the first thing he noticed about me was my Skype picture. My General, and someone else later on, noticed that appearance first and it caught their interest in ways that had nothing to do with the game. At that time I had never experienced online harassment or any form of abusive behavior, and so when it started, I was totally unprepared for the experience.

It started off mild. First he added me on Facebook without asking or even my knowledge, and that alarmed me a little, but I thought it was harmless enough. Then a joke saw us NS engaged, which I thought was funny at the time and was not bothered. However, that relationship began to sour over time, because soon enough it became one of jealousy, professions of love, and controlling behavior on his part. At this point I became extremely uncomfortable, and after debate, ended it entirely. Later, I spoke to someone when his behavior was only becoming more controlling and antagonistic, and I learned that there was a word for that: harassment.

I cut ties with him on the advice of my Delegate and several friends. However, I felt intensely guilty that I had spoken up and he had lost his place in TEP. I wondered if I had been too hasty, if I was wrong. This eventually drove me back to talking with him, and that is really where the story begins to take a plunge into the darkness. Once the NS ties were cut, his interest changed entirely to RL.

I spent months on NS existing in a fugue of guilt, fear, unhappiness, intimidation, and anxiety. No-one noticed, because I had a happy face on and my cheerful Xoriet persona hid everything from everyone save the few associates who heard my moments of unhappiness. Our association and how it changed to one of emotional abuse, control, sexual harassment, and emotional blackmail isolated me from people in my life. I hid the worst of it from my NS friends. My family had no idea what was going on, but they noticed me withdrawing and hiding in my room, barely associating with anyone unless I had to.

I had people who would have supported me, but I couldn’t tell them. I felt indebted to him for getting him removed from EPSA and I felt guilty because the person making my life hell was someone I had considered a friend and I did not want to let go. Eventually I became dependent on him for happiness, and was even willing to ignore regular death threats just so that he would talk to me. I told myself they were a joke, even when I was told that he meant them. Why would I want to believe him? People aren't really like that. I believed that this was a phase, and that it would pass.

Though he went out of his way to make me unhappy, sometimes he would be uplifting enough that I had enough time and energy to hope things were changing. That never happened. It was a cycle of building me up and tearing me down for selfish purposes.

Isolated, afraid, dependent, and unable to take control of my own life, I continued to exist. I lost a nearly four year relationship with my boyfriend, whom I long thought I was going to marry one day. I had to drop out of school because I couldn’t focus. I was depressed and unstable and unable to be happy. I channeled everything I had into NS so that I had an escape, but even then he was here and it was not truly an escape, only something that gave me a sense of usefulness and happiness.

No matter what he said and no matter how vicious it was, I forgave him time and time again. Every time I forgave him, it got worse and worse.

I finally told people because the potential reality of the death threats finally began to sink in. They encouraged me to leave, and one night I managed to break off that contact. This lasted approximately two weeks, because we had planned to meet IRL before I cut him off. I made a resolve not to go, and people from my region helped me cut off contact even further. They encouraged me to tell the police, and I did. There was nothing they could do, but they had a file ready in case he did come. I couldn't fight the impulse on the day he flew in, because I was so unstable and dependent by this time that I lost against rational judgment. That happened, and to skip the details there, I forgave him again for all of it.

I kept that we had established contact again from even the people whom I had relied on because I knew they would not understand. Of course they wouldn't, because they were the ones who were right.

What I eventually learned was that he had not truly changed at all, the way I had believed when we began speaking again. He had changed his nature, and had lost some of his hold, but that was it. Now I had no patience with his attempts at emotional blackmail. What infuriated me was that he forgot it ever happened the way it did, despite the fact that he told me outright he had used fear and control to make sure I would be with him.

When at last I cut contact for good, I thought it was over. It wasn’t over, because the damage that left behind has not healed completely and I have not spoken to him in two and a half years. I am still in therapy trying to deal with what I went through. I lived in fear that one day he would come back and fulfill those threats he made so long ago. Sometimes I still wonder if that could happen.

Today I am still trying to convince myself it was not my fault. I try to tell myself I didn’t deserve it. I tell myself that no, I am not the one who made him that way. I still remember all of the threats, I remember that I was told I was lower than dirt, and I remember that he tried to break me. I finally broke away and was left a cynical, unhappy, shell of my former self. I struggle with the PTSD left behind, something that I would not have thought was possible to get online.
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I had great times on NationStates. I made many friends. I was happy sometimes. But it is not the game that followed me when I left.
It was my experiences at the hands of one player that have stayed with me.

When you meet someone who tries to treat you this way, do not just assume that they will change. You can’t change people like that. They will not change for you, you can’t change them, and you will destroy yourself in the attempt. I tried, and it will take me years to finish overcoming that part of my history.

Don’t do what I did, and stay quiet. It is not your fault, and you don't deserve it. Trust people and let them help you. Save yourself from lasting trauma, because that is entirely possible and even probable if it gets too deep. Don't let your life be damaged because of one person. Take care of yourself.

If you know of someone like this, help them. Be there for them. Even if you want to scream because they feel too guilty or attached to let go of an abusive friend/partner, don't give up. Had Sev given up on me, I might not be here right now.

Goodbye, guys. I enjoyed a lot of the time I spent with you, and I hope you're all well.
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Republic of La Boca
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Republic of La Boca » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:30 pm

Goodbye Comrade!

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Canadian Ideals
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Ex-Nation

:(

Postby Canadian Ideals » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:31 pm

Pls dont leave this wonderful game! :( :(
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:37 pm

I don't think we have meet, but I would like to say that I'm sorry to hear that this happend to you.

I have had loads of drama here.

I understand why you want to leave.

I wish you the best of luck.

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Kyoki Chudoku
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:42 pm

Personally, I do not perform raiding or defending. I am an RPer. That makes it no less unfortunate that one must depart from this game due to such horrible and traumatising experiences. Nothing that has happened to me can approach such horrendouness. I have had to deal with seemingly far too many IC stalkers, but I cannot be sure if any are actually so in reality. I will keep your advice in mind should I ever find myself in such a situation.

May you recover your life well. I hope you are able to have a enjoyable and fulfilling existence from this point onward.
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Astarial
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Ex-Nation

Postby Astarial » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:44 pm

Xoriet,

I am so sorry that this happened to you.

I am so sorry that we could not keep you safe - none of us.

I am so sorry that so little can be done, that so little has been done, to keep others safe either.

This has to stop.
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Reventus Koth
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Reventus Koth » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:57 pm

Stay safe, X. You know I'm always on Steam, even if I can be a bit tardy with my responses <3
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Pergamon
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pergamon » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:03 pm

This is a sad story and also rather disturbing that this really happened.
Best of luck.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Drescauld » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:05 pm

This is disturbing, I am sorry for all that has happened to you and I wish you the best in your future endeavors. Have a nice life.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Libetarian Republics » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:13 pm

:(

Stay well.

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Lord Ravenclaw
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:39 pm

Xor: I am on your side now and forever. I only wish you could have been spared his attention and that we could have protected you. We underestimated him and I am so sorry.
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Helladic Empire
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Ex-Nation

Postby Helladic Empire » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:49 pm

Excuse me if i got this wrong, but you got depressed IRL because of an internet stranger?

Well, farewell bud, never seen you before but if you return say a HI =)

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Lord Ravenclaw
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:50 pm

Helladic Empire wrote:Excuse me if i got this wrong, but you got depressed IRL because of an internet stranger?

Well, farewell bud, never seen you before but if you return say a HI =)


Turn around. Leave this thread.
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Gladio II
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Postby Gladio II » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:00 pm

Very shocking and disturbing.

I'm very sorry to hear that you've had to go through all of this, stay safe Xor.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Alanis Star » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:04 pm

Well, I may have never encountered you before, but just want to say all the best with whatever you are going to pursue in life!

Stay strong, and stay safe out there!
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Ex-Nation

Postby Escade » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:05 pm

To anyone who is reading this thread and doesn't know the player or doesn't have the empathy to understand the situation...please find something else to do.

Xoriet, there is so much I learned from you and so many ways you helped me feel safer in this game and there's no way to really show what that meant or means. You took on this role to protect other people and the saddest thing is you needed more from us as a community and we need to be better. Not just for you but for anyone else who could be struggling or suffering.

Sometimes it makes a person think, "Why do I even play this game?"

<3 my always sis
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Frattastan II » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:14 pm

You will be missed. Good luck.
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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:23 pm

We'll miss you, Xor. Stay safe, and I'm sorry this stuff happened while in our region - I wish we would have done more and acted quick, because this and stuff like this has to stop. It is not your fault. If you run into trouble or need someone to talk to, I'm here. This stuff goes beyond NS.

I don't want to veer this thread off, but this online stuff and the stuff I've heard is horrible. If anyone needs someone to talk to, I'm kind of just half-connected to NS anymore, and I don't really care about tiffs or battles or if we're supposed to be friends or enemies. That's within the confines of this silly game that ultimately is supposed to be for fun and shouldn't mean anything outside of that, aside from the friends we make and what not. I just hate seeing people go through these tough things, whether it is harassment, blackmail, alcoholism, addiction, depression, anything. I'm an older fox guy thing who is married and went through a lot of bad to get where things are right now. I might not have a solution, but people's lives mean way more than this game, and at the very least I will listen. I am certain there are others in this game who feel the same way - no one needs to be alone in these things. We're friends, we have our priorities in order, and we can help in our own little way. Once again, sorry to veer this off topic.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Paxiosolange » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:28 pm

Hey Xoriet, I'm really sorry about all this I really wish you the best.

I too have had outrageous and iniquitous individuals threaten me and my colleagues; but nothing compared to what you've had to go through, so I wish you security and I bid you farewell
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Nantoraka » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:30 pm

Never knew this person, but let's read his/her story on NS-

Oh.
Oh.
Oh.

Well I don't really know you, so I don't know if you'll actually care, but I'm really sorry for all of that happening to you. People can be huge assholes sometimes, and while most of those assholes begin to regret their decisions, I doubt your particular asshole ever did regret those decisions. But if you have to leave NationStates, go ahead - but for your friends that you've made here, please don't do anything drastic.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:35 pm

I do not believe that we have ever met, but Jesus Christ... I would not want to experience what you have gone through.

I believe you, and I hope that you will never experience such abuse and trauma ever again. I also shall take your parting advice into consideration.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:42 pm

I've said anything worth saying over private channels already. You know how to hit me up if you ever need to chat fam. Wishing you all the best in absolutely everything :hug:

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Postby Topid » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:45 pm

:( It was very hard to read this X, but I am glad you posted it.

I feel like we should use moments like this to really hit home that maybe we share too much on this site. I was certainly guilty of it when I was a younger player. I shared real images of myself. I shared my RL name. I shared what town I lived in. I even gave out my cell phone number to a few people. I met people I knew from NationStates IRL. I kept a few NS friends on my personal facebook. And personally, aside from a few very minor problems, I never suffered near the consequences that you have. But I think a lot of older players like myself did that for years, and other players watch us do it and think it was a smart thing to do. It REALLY isn't.

It makes me feel guilty that Xoriet could have seen me talking about being facebook friends with XYZ, or see me sharing info I probably shouldn't have, and felt it was fine to do so as well. And because she did so, this person was able to make her feel not only unsafe as Xoriet the NationStates player but also as her real identity.

I think the veterans of this site should be a bit more active in discouraging the sharing of personal information. I think the standard should be "If I don't think it would be smart that a fourteen or fifteen year old member to do XYZ, then maybe I shouldn't post on Gameplay threads or on offsite forums that I'm doing the same thing. Why am I not pointing out to people I see doing it that it probably is a bad idea." Or I suppose to put it another way, I've recently had the hard truth come home that some of the next generation of my family are nearing age 13, and I think about the possibility that they could be on NS. I would absolutely never want them to do the dumb shit I did on this site, but yet I set that example for numerous anonymous underage players for years without even thinking about it.

I hope you get the help you need Xoriet, and I thank you for coming back to share your story with those of us who still post here daily. That helps, and I truly believe you helped.

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Darcania
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Darcania » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:03 pm

Best of luck, Xoriet. Stay safe.

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Ex-Nation

Postby The Church of Satan » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:14 pm

Stay well Xor and I wish you the very best. May your future be filled with indescribable bliss! Take care.
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