[MT|OOC] The Theban War

[-Republic of Vietnam-]

It is open for now, the diplomacy is totally open to other players, just if you decide to deploy a force please summarize it with an ORBAT, thanks.

Very well then. I will commence on composing an order of battle. The Republic of Vietnam will only deploy a diminutive special operations force availing against the left-wingers due to the lack of power projection capability to deploy a large task force.

[-Republic of Vietnam-]

@Erythrean Thebes

81st Airborne Ranger Group (450 men - Col. Hoàng Huy Tường)

- 811th Ranger Company (150 men - Cpt. Nguyễn Hồng Thụy)

- 322nd Ranger Platoon (30 men - 1Lt. Hoàng Trung Nhân)
- I Squad (8 men - Sgt. Phạm An Ninh)
- II Squad (8 men - Ssgt. Bành Ngọc Thiện)
- III Squad (8 men - Sgt. Võ Quang Nhân)

- 318th Ranger Platoon (30 men - 2Lt. Phùng Phi Ðiệp)
- I Squad (8 men - Sgt. Lâm Hữu Ðạt)
- II Squad (8 men - Sgt.Trịnh Tôn Lễ)
- III Squad (8 men - Sgt. Bùi Việt Khôi)
- 320th Ranger Platoon (30 men - 1Lt. Đoàn Tùng Linh)
- I Squad (8 men - Sgt. Bùi Việt Khôi)
- II Squad (8 men - Sgt. Thi Hùng Dũng)
- III Squad (8 men - Ssgt. Nguyễn Công Hậu)

- 321st Ranger Platoon (30 men - 2Lt. Dương Thế Quyền)
- I Squad (8 men - Ssgt. Mạch Minh Thuận)
- II Squad (8 men - Sgt. Đỗ Thành An)
- III Squad (8 men - Sgt. Tống Thuận Thành)

- 333rd Ranger Platoon (30 men - 1Lt. Nguyễn Vương Triệu)
- I Squad (8 men - Sgt. Trang Việt Dương)
- II Squad (8 men - Ssgt. Võ Bảo Chấn)
- III Squad (8 men - Sgt. Tạ Phúc Khang)


- 813th Ranger Company (150 men - Maj. Mạch Xuân Cung)

- 814th Ranger Company (150 men - Cpt. Nguyễn Duy Thạch)


Just posting this here for now, I'll work on the two remaining companies and further divide the squads into fireteams for a more complete order of battle. Hope this gives a gist so far of what I'm deploying.

[Altpeak]

Altpeak probably won't be deploying forces just yet. It would probably seek to negotiate a peace between Communist nations first.

Speaking of, are we going to get an IC thread up for this or what?

[Erythrean Thebes]

Altpeak probably won't be deploying forces just yet. It would probably seek to negotiate a peace between Communist nations first.

Speaking of, are we going to get an IC thread up for this or what?

There is one in the OP

[Skodinavia]

Tag

[Altpeak]

Altpeak probably won't be deploying forces just yet. It would probably seek to negotiate a peace between Communist nations first.

Speaking of, are we going to get an IC thread up for this or what?

There is one in the OP

Woops. Apologies, didn't notice(clearly)

[Vymar]

APPLICATION

Nation name: The United Socialist States of Vymar
Government type: Democratic
Economy type: Democratic-Socialist
Leader's name: John Williams
Language: Vymarian
Population: 50,000,000
Describe your military's performance: Trained more for guerrilla, defense type battles, the Vymarian military is one that is mainly centered around defending its own borders. Despite this, the army is not poorly equipped, nor is it poorly trained in its offensive capabilities. With a neighbor that invokes a constant threat to national security, Vymar is basically forced to pour many resources into its military to keep itself alive. The armed forces is 450,000 strong with 550,000 in reserve, with a majority of its forces mechanized to some degree to support infantry at all times, and not allow said infantry to be caught with their pants down.
Would you say that you are rising, at a peak, or facing decline?: Progressing at a slow, yet steady rate
How does your country get involved in this war?: Perhaps Vymar wanted some type of presence in the region so that it could attempt to trade with both Azerzetnia, Oetzaria and Baal. Perhaps it rented some ports off of Oetzaria to establish some type of resting stop so that Vymarian cargo ships could stop, rest, refuel or even trade with Oetzarian manufactures before moving into Azerzetnia and Oetzaria to drop off their main cargo. The constant slave raids force Vymar to take action against the pirates to protect Vymarian economic interests, sending in its ground forces to overlook its own ports, while sending in the navy to assist the fight against the pirates. Meanwhile, while Azerzetnia invades Baal, Vymar continues to trade with both, and fuels both belligerents. Funding Azerzetnia through monetary means, while selling Vymarian military hardware to Azerzetnia such as small arms and Anti-tank weapons. Once Krogria attempts to invade Oetzaria, Vymar will begin to ramp up its military intervention in Oetzaria, while avoiding any further affiliation with Azerzetnia and Baal.
What is your take on the premise for this RP? Any suggestions?: I like the premise, its kind of hard for me to join in an RP based upon ideology when mine is kind of centrist (Much like myself). Which is why I'd like to join as a middle power, which isn't necessarily aligned with any side, but rather fights who it needs to, and ignores who it doesn't. However, I look forward to this RP.
Misc: I'll shoot up an ORBAT soon

[Altpeak]

Are any of the other major players going to actually post in the IC?

[Erythrean Thebes]

APPLICATION

Nation name: The United Socialist States of Vymar
Government type: Democratic
Economy type: Democratic-Socialist
Leader's name: John Williams
Language: Vymarian
Population: 50,000,000
Describe your military's performance: Trained more for guerrilla, defense type battles, the Vymarian military is one that is mainly centered around defending its own borders. Despite this, the army is not poorly equipped, nor is it poorly trained in its offensive capabilities. With a neighbor that invokes a constant threat to national security, Vymar is basically forced to pour many resources into its military to keep itself alive. The armed forces is 450,000 strong with 550,000 in reserve, with a majority of its forces mechanized to some degree to support infantry at all times, and not allow said infantry to be caught with their pants down.
Would you say that you are rising, at a peak, or facing decline?: Progressing at a slow, yet steady rate
How does your country get involved in this war?: Perhaps Vymar wanted some type of presence in the region so that it could attempt to trade with both Azerzetnia, Oetzaria and Baal. Perhaps it rented some ports off of Oetzaria to establish some type of resting stop so that Vymarian cargo ships could stop, rest, refuel or even trade with Oetzarian manufactures before moving into Azerzetnia and Oetzaria to drop off their main cargo. The constant slave raids force Vymar to take action against the pirates to protect Vymarian economic interests, sending in its ground forces to overlook its own ports, while sending in the navy to assist the fight against the pirates. Meanwhile, while Azerzetnia invades Baal, Vymar continues to trade with both, and fuels both belligerents. Funding Azerzetnia through monetary means, while selling Vymarian military hardware to Azerzetnia such as small arms and Anti-tank weapons. Once Krogria attempts to invade Oetzaria, Vymar will begin to ramp up its military intervention in Oetzaria, while avoiding any further affiliation with Azerzetnia and Baal.
What is your take on the premise for this RP? Any suggestions?: I like the premise, its kind of hard for me to join in an RP based upon ideology when mine is kind of centrist (Much like myself). Which is why I'd like to join as a middle power, which isn't necessarily aligned with any side, but rather fights who it needs to, and ignores who it doesn't. However, I look forward to this RP.
Misc: I'll shoot up an ORBAT soon

Nice! Welcome, I'll put you down as a third party at the start

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@Altpeak: I'm wondering the same...if he doesn't post soon, do you have any desire to take over leadership of the Communists?

[Altpeak]

I'd be happy to. I'll have a go at drafting a reason why Altpeak goes to war with Thebes as well as coming up with a more in depth overview of my military

[Revolutionary Proletarian Soviets]

@Altpeak: I'm wondering the same...if he doesn't post soon, do you have any desire to take over leadership of the Communists?

Hey everyone, sorry about going so quiet. If Altpeak wants to take things over, go ahead: real life hit me with unexpected issues so I lost the time I thought I had to devote to writing for NS.

[Altpeak]

Right then.

Seeing as I'm thinking of a reason why Altpeak would go to war with Thebes, here's what I'm thinking: Altpeak funds and equips a communist rebellion against the Theban state and then, as the Thebans try to put down the rebellion, Altpeak declares that it shall intercede on behalf of its communist brethren, effectively launching an invasion of Thebes. Then things escalate from there. Sound good?

[Erythrean Thebes]

Right then.

Seeing as I'm thinking of a reason why Altpeak would go to war with Thebes, here's what I'm thinking: Altpeak funds and equips a communist rebellion against the Theban state and then, as the Thebans try to put down the rebellion, Altpeak declares that it shall intercede on behalf of its communist brethren, effectively launching an invasion of Thebes. Then things escalate from there. Sound good?

Thebes is not the theater of the war unless I guess you win and then invade me afterwards, hahaha. But I meant 'gates of Thebes' in a geostrategic sense, thinking this is like 1/2 or 2/3 the distance from Europe to NA, and it is kind of a 1939 scenario where Thebes must intervene because one of their immediate neighbors might fall and leave the country vulnerable.

However, the basic idea is perfect for this

[Altpeak]

Right then.

Seeing as I'm thinking of a reason why Altpeak would go to war with Thebes, here's what I'm thinking: Altpeak funds and equips a communist rebellion against the Theban state and then, as the Thebans try to put down the rebellion, Altpeak declares that it shall intercede on behalf of its communist brethren, effectively launching an invasion of Thebes. Then things escalate from there. Sound good?

Thebes is not the theater of the war unless I guess you win and then invade me afterwards, hahaha. But I meant 'gates of Thebes' in a geostrategic sense, thinking this is like 1/2 or 2/3 the distance from Europe to NA, and it is kind of a 1939 scenario where Thebes must intervene because one of their immediate neighbors might fall and leave the country vulnerable.

However, the basic idea is perfect for this

Ok then, do we have a volounteer for the nation that gets invaded first? Or shall I make one up?

Oh and Altpeak is a fully nuclear capable nation, as well as having stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons. So if they start getting desperate, things are going to get messy

[Erythrean Thebes]

Thebes is not the theater of the war unless I guess you win and then invade me afterwards, hahaha. But I meant 'gates of Thebes' in a geostrategic sense, thinking this is like 1/2 or 2/3 the distance from Europe to NA, and it is kind of a 1939 scenario where Thebes must intervene because one of their immediate neighbors might fall and leave the country vulnerable.

However, the basic idea is perfect for this

Ok then, do we have a volounteer for the nation that gets invaded first? Or shall I make one up?

Oh and Altpeak is a fully nuclear capable nation, as well as having stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons. So if they start getting desperate, things are going to get messy

You should double-check the OP, there is a map currently of a sub-continent where the war is taking place. There is a country, Azerzetnia, which just fell to Communist rebels and that's like you're puppet country, you can RP it. Then Baal is a player character, my ally in the region, and there is a third neutral country that is an arena for other players, especially for naval operations

[Altpeak]

Ok then, do we have a volounteer for the nation that gets invaded first? Or shall I make one up?

Oh and Altpeak is a fully nuclear capable nation, as well as having stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons. So if they start getting desperate, things are going to get messy

You should double-check the OP, there is a map currently of a sub-continent where the war is taking place. There is a country, Azerzetnia, which just fell to Communist rebels and that's like you're puppet country, you can RP it. Then Baal is a player character, my ally in the region, and there is a third neutral country that is an arena for other players, especially for naval operations

The arena country being Oetzaria?

In that case, I guess the communist revolution will start there

[Erythrean Thebes]

You should double-check the OP, there is a map currently of a sub-continent where the war is taking place. There is a country, Azerzetnia, which just fell to Communist rebels and that's like you're puppet country, you can RP it. Then Baal is a player character, my ally in the region, and there is a third neutral country that is an arena for other players, especially for naval operations

The arena country being Oetzaria?

In that case, I guess the communist revolution will start there

Damn you. I guess some COIN warmups couldn't hurt...

[Altpeak]

Posted. Planning to move on pretty quickly to the Altpeakian military intervention

[Erythrean Thebes]

Nice. Do not post again until I post. I have to finish my exams and then I will get it up

[Altpeak]

Currently writing up the ORBAT of Altpeak's initial invasion force. Should I write up an ORBAT for Azerzetnian forces too? If so, how big do we want Azerzetnia to be?

[Erythrean Thebes]

Currently writing up the ORBAT of Altpeak's initial invasion force. Should I write up an ORBAT for Azerzetnian forces too? If so, how big do we want Azerzetnia to be?

Please go ahead. In real terms it depends a lot on how big we are claiming ourselves, the great powers, to be. I was thinking that these countries are really not close to us in size, however with logistical considerations and economics of scale and everything else, we should also admit that we cannot easily deploy a preponderant part of our armed forces in this war. (I guess Thebes is closer and it's a vital interest, that's a factor, but at first we can probably say that we are dealing with task forces of our armies). Make it, say, equal to about 1/4 of whatever your first large deployment will be, and about a generation behind. Baal will be about the same, or maybe a hair smaller for plot purposes if he consents.

Speaking of which, I TG'd him yesterday asking if he's active. I'll give him a few days, then see what to do.

[Ruskland-Preuben]

APPLICATION

Nation name: Imperium of Ruskland Preuben
Government type: Absolute Monarchy, Strictly Dynastic Elective
Economy type: Socialism(now perfected to give you powerhouse economies!)
Leader's name: Emperor Johann II of Soissons
Language: Ruskland Preubenr
Population: 978,091,999
Describe your military's performance: A mixture of professional tactics and plain ol Geneva Conventions breaking. High usage of missiles(ICBMs and such(non-nuclear)), drones, submarines, and carriers. We tend to attack the eyes of the enemy first, crippling their satellites if they have any, as well as focusing on recon craft, they can’t have an infinite supply of them. On infantry, do not engage in forests, marshes, or any difficult terrain, they will screw you many times over, and they tend to be masters at breaking the morale of the enemy(they hang corpses of the enemy in the forests!). They are also mechanized to an extent. On the air force, most manned aircraft have been replaced with drones that are cheap yet have state of the art tech. Our military tech is from 2003 to 2020(no over the top tech though!). Also, snipers, a lot of them.
Would you say that you are rising, at a peak, or facing decline?: Rising of course! Though rapid, it is starting to plateau.
How does your country get involved in this war?: As always, whenever there’s a war anywhere, there’s a chance that puppets will be formed, and so, we commit to an all in.
What is your take on the premise for this RP? Any suggestions?: You get a seal of approval mate, thanks for giving me a reason to kill some capitalists, why need that outdated economic system when you’ve got Perfected Socialism!
Misc:

[Vymar]

I'm gonna throw up an ORBAT for you to clear. It will be in the order of the different levels of involvement I stated in my app.

Objective : Secure Vymarian Economic interests and fight off slaver/pirate raids

Leader : Admiral Zackary Rudolph and Colonel Thomas Popek

1 Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
2 Espora Class Corvettes
1 Badden-Wuttemberg Destroyer
1 Gaulicia Class Docking Ship
+ 600 Vymarian Soldiers of the 23rd Mechanized Battalion
+ 30 M1126 ICVs
+ 70 Humvees
+ 9 Cadillac Cage Commando V-200
+ 10 Mamba APCs
+ 1 Bravia Chaimite V-500

14th Logistical division

4 Escort IBF-12s (see factbooks)
4 C-5 Galaxies
+ Typically containing small arms, ammunition and RPG-29s

97th Heavy Mechanized Legion

Objective : Protect Vymarian Political/Economic interests, protect Oetzarian borders

Leader : General Ymir Peterson

2 Juan Carlos Assault Ships (Deployment divided equally between the two)
-40 IBT-63 MBT (See factbooks for all)
-20 Raksasha M1A1 Heavy Tank
-20 XM-3 Medium tanks
- 1,800 soldiers
- 8 IBF-12 Multi-Role fighters

2 Mistral Class Assault Ships (1 taking light transport, the other holding tanks (M2s), both holding an equal amount of helicopters)
- 1,800 soldiers
- 40 M2 Bradley IFVs
- 40 Humvees
- 12 Puma Helicopters

2 Galicia Class Landing Docks (Weight divided evenly between the two)
- 150 AAV7 APCs
- 100 MK48/A1s

6 A-400m Atlas'
- Holding a variety of supplies, MRE's, Ammunition

3 C-5 Galaxies
- Holding all together 6 MK48/A1s and ammunition

Escort Fleet
- 2 Vasco Da Gama Frigates
- 2 Ticonderoga Cruisers
- 3 Visby Class Corvettes
- 3 Badden-Wuttemberg Destroyers

Air Power to be sent over a number of days
- 2 KJ-2000
- 6 B1 Lancers
- 20 IBF-12s
- 15 IBF-17s (see factbooks)
- 4 KC-135s
- 10 F110 Spectre Attack Aircraft

45th Airborne Light Infantry Battalion
- 5 A400m Atlas'
- 500 soldiers (Held within the A400s)

Also, would it be OK with you if my first post starts with Vymarian cargo ship crew members getting captured?

[Altpeak]

Altpeakian ORBAT

Naval Forces
1 Kirov class battlecruiser
1 Udaloy class destroyer
1 Sovremennyy class destroyer
8 Admiral Grigorovich class frigates
6 Oscar II class cruise missile submarines.

Ground Forces
9th Rifle Division
768 BTR-80s, 336 BMP-3s, 600 SBA 60k2 Bulats, 128 9K53 Strela-10s, 128 2K22 Tunguskas, 32 BREM-L "Beglianka"s, 6 UH-60Ls, 32 M119 105mm howitzers, 12 M777 155mm howitzers, 12 TOS-1s, 44 FMTV gun carriages, 22 GAZ Tigrs, 3 RQ-7 Shadows, 6 Ural Typhoons, 2 Kornet Ds.
15,372 personnel.

21st Rifle Division
768 BTR-80s, 336 BMP-3s, 600 SBA 60k2 Bulats, 128 9K53 Strela-10s, 128 2K22 Tunguskas, 32 BREM-L "Beglianka"s, 6 UH-60Ls, 32 M119 105mm howitzers, 12 M777 155mm howitzers, 12 TOS-1s, 44 FMTV gun carriages, 22 GAZ Tigrs, 3 RQ-7 Shadows, 6 Ural Typhoons, 2 Kornet Ds.
15,372 personnel.

43rd Rifle Division
768 BTR-80s, 336 BMP-3s, 600 SBA 60k2 Bulats, 128 9K53 Strela-10s, 128 2K22 Tunguskas, 32 BREM-L "Beglianka"s, 6 UH-60Ls, 32 M119 105mm howitzers, 12 M777 155mm howitzers, 12 TOS-1s, 44 FMTV gun carriages, 22 GAZ Tigrs, 3 RQ-7 Shadows, 6 Ural Typhoons, 2 Kornet Ds.
15,372 personnel.

8th Armoured Division
672 Merkava IVs, 192 BTR-80s, 84 BMP-3s, 132 SBA-60K2 Bulats, 32 9K53 Strela-10M3 MNs, 32 2K22 Tunguskas, 3 RQ-7s, 6 Ural Typhoons, 10 GAZ Tigrs, 2 Kornet Ds, 16 TOS-1s, 16 2S19 Mstas, 32 BREM-L "Beglianka"s, 24 SBA-60K2 Bulats.
11,010 personnel.

15th Airborne Division
432 BMD-4s, 108 2S9s, 48 2S25s.
4,032 personnel.

Air Force
240 Ka-52s
103 Il-76s
3 SU-57s
21 SU-35s
21 MiG-35s
98 SU-34s

Azerzetnian ORBAT to come

Just to explain the relative lack of naval forces or high tech airborne forces, going into this war the Altpeakians aren't expecting to be fighting a coalition of comparable tech levels to themselves. Instead, they're expecting a reasonably quick war against a technologically inferior opponent, meaning they don't need to deploy their most up to date aircraft and they're definitely not expecting a naval fight, hence the comparatively small naval force. Now obviously this may change as Thebes gets involved, but at least for the beginning this is what Altpeakian forces are going to look like.

And as an explanation of how Altpeak can deploy so many ground troops: it's satellite nation of Azerzetnia is right next door, meaning it was able to build up its troops on Azerzetnian soil before the invasion.

[Erythrean Thebes]

These look good! My post is coming at the end of this week, which will outline the first stages of the war; in the meantime people are welcome to post intros like the ones from Altpeak and Technologist Communes - I really like the scrolling title guys, it puts me in the mindset of an arcade space shooter . Hmm, yeah. Then after I post next Altpeak will be chronologically next in order because there is supposed to be a certain element of surprise, as I gather, and then it I guess it will be totally open after that