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What is your favorite conservative political party?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:42 pm

Liberal Party of Australia
1
5%
Democrats (Brazil)
0
No votes
Kuomintang (Taiwan)
7
35%
Republicans (France)
3
15%
Christian Democrat Union (Germany)
3
15%
Liberal Democratic Party (Japan)
2
10%
Liberty Korea Party (South Korea)
1
5%
People's Party (Spain)
0
No votes
Conservative and Unionist Party (United Kingdom)
2
10%
Independent Democratic Union (Chile)
1
5%
 
Total votes : 20

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:05 pm

Senkaku wrote:If we ever notch some political victories instead of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory whenever we're threatened by a narcissistic tangerine-toned billionaire a few cards short of a deck, then I'm sure you'll enjoy the delicious hedonism of fully automated luxury gay space communism. In the meantime, settle in for capitalism and rampant degeneracy. :p


No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.

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Postby Collatis » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:06 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:


No my friend... no you haven't

For Romney, we kinda thought he could win. And what's more, the media didn't absolutely hate.

For Trump, none of us thought he was gonna win. And the media thought he was the literal devil - which made the night so much more glorious!

If you don't think Fox News thought Obama was the literal devil, then you haven't seen enough Fox News.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:08 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Senkaku wrote:If we ever notch some political victories instead of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory whenever we're threatened by a narcissistic tangerine-toned billionaire a few cards short of a deck, then I'm sure you'll enjoy the delicious hedonism of fully automated luxury gay space communism. In the meantime, settle in for capitalism and rampant degeneracy. :p


No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.

>When you play idpol and get people to identify with their racial group and to vote for policies that favor said racial group but then forget that white Americans still exist

We're in for some interesting times, tbh.

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Postby Keldros » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:09 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Keldros wrote:
Speak for yourself friendo. The MPC crew predicted a Trump victory as soon as he came down the escalator in 2015.


MPC?


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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:09 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.

>When you play idpol and get people to identify with their racial group and to vote for policies that favor said racial group but then forget that white Americans still exist

We're in for some interesting times, tbh.

>> implying white racial politics wasn't already full-steam ahead just couched in socially acceptable terms

Be serious for a moment
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Republic of the Cristo
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:09 pm

Collatis wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
No my friend... no you haven't

For Romney, we kinda thought he could win. And what's more, the media didn't absolutely hate.

For Trump, none of us thought he was gonna win. And the media thought he was the literal devil - which made the night so much more glorious!

If you don't think Fox News thought Obama was the literal devil, then you haven't seen enough Fox News.


Perhaps, but they also knew that he was probably going to win to. NOOOOO one thought Trump was gonna win.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:12 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.

>When you play idpol and get people to identify with their racial group and to vote for policies that favor said racial group but then forget that white Americans still exist

Implying white American race politics weren't already the dominant strain

We're in for some interesting times, tbh.

White people need to take a damn breath lmao
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Postby Collatis » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:12 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Collatis wrote:If you don't think Fox News thought Obama was the literal devil, then you haven't seen enough Fox News.


Perhaps, but they also knew that he was probably going to win to. NOOOOO one thought Trump was gonna win.

Other than this guy, of course.

I still think he's gotten lucky.

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Postby Keldros » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:16 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Senkaku wrote:If we ever notch some political victories instead of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory whenever we're threatened by a narcissistic tangerine-toned billionaire a few cards short of a deck, then I'm sure you'll enjoy the delicious hedonism of fully automated luxury gay space communism. In the meantime, settle in for capitalism and rampant degeneracy. :p


No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.


Think of it this way: thirty years ago, cheeky young pranksters loved to piss off the squares by, say, joking about Christianity. In Current Year, cheeky young pranksters piss off the squares by printing flyers that read "It's Okay To Be White."

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:16 pm

Keldros wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.


Think of it this way: thirty years ago, cheeky young pranksters loved to piss off the squares by, say, joking about Christianity. In Current Year, cheeky young pranksters piss off the squares by printing flyers that read "It's Okay To Be White."

"Th-the youth is on our side!" - No movement that has ever had the youth on their side
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Postby Bigg-Boss » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:17 pm

Collatis wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Perhaps, but they also knew that he was probably going to win to. NOOOOO one thought Trump was gonna win.

Other than this guy, of course.

I still think he's gotten lucky.


Incumbencies are usually pretty easy to guess right, and then you just assume it follows a trend of eight years of one party followed by eight of the other.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:18 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Keldros wrote:
Think of it this way: thirty years ago, cheeky young pranksters loved to piss off the squares by, say, joking about Christianity. In Current Year, cheeky young pranksters piss off the squares by printing flyers that read "It's Okay To Be White."

"Th-the youth is on our side!" - No movement that has ever had the youth on their side


... Wasn't that like an actual slogan for the Paris student revolt of May 68?
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:20 pm

Apparently people marching through the streets chanting seriously Blud und Boden, "You will not replace us", being taken more seriously in terms of politics, people being more willing to be open about their views on race, and attracting a not insignificant chunk of young people to a world view that was slowly but steadily being more and more relegated to the fringes and among older people is not enough to convince people that maybe promoting a worldview that continues to have people identify with their race is not such a great idea. And the "We're in for some interesting times" bit refers to us not having seen the worst of it (potentially). Please, lets continue trying to force guilt trip people because of their race. I'm sure it'll work out just fine for race relations just like when white supremacists tried to guilt trip entire racial communities for various offenses committed by individuals or even perceived slights.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Keldros wrote:
Think of it this way: thirty years ago, cheeky young pranksters loved to piss off the squares by, say, joking about Christianity. In Current Year, cheeky young pranksters piss off the squares by printing flyers that read "It's Okay To Be White."

"Th-the youth is on our side!" - No movement that has ever had the youth on their side

True lol

Keldros wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
No, you miss the point. Whatever is valued is uncool, whatever is banned is cool. Thats the nature of our culture. We're going to see something new and even more terrifying pop up. I am very excited.


Think of it this way: thirty years ago, cheeky young pranksters loved to piss off the squares by, say, joking about Christianity. In Current Year, cheeky young pranksters piss off the squares by printing flyers that read "It's Okay To Be White."

Maybe in whatever liberal bubble you and I are living in lol :^)
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:23 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Apparently people marching through the streets chanting seriously Blud und Boden, "You will not replace us", being taken more seriously in terms of politics, people being more willing to be open about their views on race, and attracting a not insignificant chunk of young people to a world view that was slowly but steadily being more and more relegated to the fringes and among older people is not enough to convince people that maybe promoting a worldview that continues to have people identify with their race is not such a great idea. And the "We're in for some interesting times" bit refers to us not having seen the worst of it (potentially). Please, lets continue trying to force guilt trip people because of their race. I'm sure it'll work out just fine for race relations just like when white supremacists tried to guilt trip entire racial communities for various offenses committed by individuals or even perceived slights.

Oh right it's on the rest of us to not hurt people's feelings or anything so they don't turn into Nazis, not on them to be goddamn grownups who use the material between their ears

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FUCK YOU. STAND WITH ME. NO MEATBALLS, NO LAMPS. WE ARE ALL LOSERS. COINCIDENCE IS SUBSIDENCE.
America supports THE PEDO NAZI CABAL. America supports GENOCIDE. My country is VERY ANNOYING TO ME.

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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:24 pm

I wonder when the people playing pretend racist for the salt it gets from overreacting dumbasses will realise that not everyone playing along with them is actually pretending.

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Postby Keldros » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:25 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Keldros wrote:
Think of it this way: thirty years ago, cheeky young pranksters loved to piss off the squares by, say, joking about Christianity. In Current Year, cheeky young pranksters piss off the squares by printing flyers that read "It's Okay To Be White."

"Th-the youth is on our side!" - No movement that has ever had the youth on their side


Protip chief: never bet against the side that's having fun. And since 2015 the Right has been having a f*cking blast.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:25 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Apparently people marching through the streets chanting seriously Blud und Boden, "You will not replace us", being taken more seriously in terms of politics, people being more willing to be open about their views on race, and attracting a not insignificant chunk of young people to a world view that was slowly but steadily being more and more relegated to the fringes and among older people is not enough to convince people that maybe promoting a worldview that continues to have people identify with their race is not such a great idea. And the "We're in for some interesting times" bit refers to us not having seen the worst of it (potentially). Please, lets continue trying to force guilt trip people because of their race. I'm sure it'll work out just fine for race relations just like when white supremacists tried to guilt trip entire racial communities for various offenses committed by individuals or even perceived slights.


To be fair, the actual number of right wingers at Charleston was pretty small compared to a lot of other events. Heck, even that torchlight thing was only a hundred guys.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:26 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Apparently people marching through the streets chanting seriously Blud und Boden, "You will not replace us", being taken more seriously in terms of politics, people being more willing to be open about their views on race, and attracting a not insignificant chunk of young people to a world view that was slowly but steadily being more and more relegated to the fringes and among older people is not enough to convince people that maybe promoting a worldview that continues to have people identify with their race is not such a great idea. And the "We're in for some interesting times" bit refers to us not having seen the worst of it (potentially). Please, lets continue trying to force guilt trip people because of their race. I'm sure it'll work out just fine for race relations just like when white supremacists tried to guilt trip entire racial communities for various offenses committed by individuals or even perceived slights.

Oh right it's on the rest of us to not hurt people's feelings or anything so they don't turn into Nazis, not on them to be goddamn grownups who use the material between their ears

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It's not about not hurting feelings, it's about not pushing stupidity.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:27 pm

Albrenia wrote:I wonder when the people playing pretend racist for the salt it gets from overreacting dumbasses will realise that not everyone playing along with them is actually pretending.

They do. They're just enjoying it lol.

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Apparently people marching through the streets chanting seriously Blud und Boden, "You will not replace us", being taken more seriously in terms of politics, people being more willing to be open about their views on race, and attracting a not insignificant chunk of young people to a world view that was slowly but steadily being more and more relegated to the fringes and among older people is not enough to convince people that maybe promoting a worldview that continues to have people identify with their race is not such a great idea. And the "We're in for some interesting times" bit refers to us not having seen the worst of it (potentially). Please, lets continue trying to force guilt trip people because of their race. I'm sure it'll work out just fine for race relations just like when white supremacists tried to guilt trip entire racial communities for various offenses committed by individuals or even perceived slights.


To be fair, the actual number of right wingers at Charleston was pretty small compared to a lot of other events. Heck, even that torchlight thing was only a hundred guys.

"nbd lol idk why it's a big deal"

Keldros wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:"Th-the youth is on our side!" - No movement that has ever had the youth on their side


Protip chief: never bet against the side that's having fun. And since 2015 the Right has been having a f*cking blast.

"everyone on the right is just like me, I'm sure the people voting trump after a lifetime of voting democrats who just lost their kids to heroin are having a fuckin blast too"
FUCK YOU. STAND WITH ME. NO MEATBALLS, NO LAMPS. WE ARE ALL LOSERS. COINCIDENCE IS SUBSIDENCE.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:29 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Oh right it's on the rest of us to not hurt people's feelings or anything so they don't turn into Nazis, not on them to be goddamn grownups who use the material between their ears


It's not about not hurting feelings, it's about not pushing stupidity.

Ah yes, the Tumblr fringe of the left pushing their dumb shit (dumb shit that is then given a vastly greater platform by the right-wing media that picks it up to use as strawmen to beat up on teh ebul libruls) is somehow to blame for other adult humans shutting their higher cognition down and embracing Nazism and doing crazy shit. Yep, all their fault, direction causation, they're to blame, no one and nothing else (certainly not the Nazis themselves).

*taps head* Some sound logic right there, Nap. Please, keep looking for ways to shift responsibility away from the people who are actually embracing this shitty clusterfuck of an ideology as it grows more and more toxic, I appreciate your mental gymnastics.
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:30 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I wonder when the people playing pretend racist for the salt it gets from overreacting dumbasses will realise that not everyone playing along with them is actually pretending.

They do. They're just enjoying it lol.

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
To be fair, the actual number of right wingers at Charleston was pretty small compared to a lot of other events. Heck, even that torchlight thing was only a hundred guys.

"nbd lol idk why it's a big deal"

Keldros wrote:
Protip chief: never bet against the side that's having fun. And since 2015 the Right has been having a f*cking blast.

"everyone on the right is just like me, I'm sure the people voting trump after a lifetime of voting democrats who just lost their kids to heroin are having a fuckin blast too"


Do you have anything meaningful to contribute, or do you just want to keep saying, " nope, nuh-hu. " to everything we all keep saying?
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:I can't believe no one voted for Ike yet.


I did, but that's because he's the last GOP President who was unarguably good. Nixon had Watergate, extending the Vietnam War, and the War on Drugs. Reagan's neo-lib/neo-con policies may have been inevitable to a certain extent but that doesn't excuse the god-awful Religious Right that developed under his administration. Bush I was okay but didn't accomplish much of note, and Bush II ruined the economy with those tax cuts and our prestige with Iraq.
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Postby Keldros » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:31 pm

Senkaku wrote:"everyone on the right is just like me, I'm sure the people voting trump after a lifetime of voting democrats who just lost their kids to heroin are having a fuckin blast too"


They lost their jobs and they lost their children to heroin, but those cishet white male Nazi bigots deserve to suffer for the sins of their ancestors and for voting for that lousy Drumpf!

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:34 pm

Keldros wrote:
Senkaku wrote:"everyone on the right is just like me, I'm sure the people voting trump after a lifetime of voting democrats who just lost their kids to heroin are having a fuckin blast too"


They lost their jobs and they lost their children to heroin, but those cishet white male Nazi bigots deserve to suffer for the sins of their ancestors and for voting for that lousy Drumpf!

Oh look, a strawman unrelated to my point :p

Republic of the Cristo wrote:
Senkaku wrote:They do. They're just enjoying it lol.


Doesn't look like what I'm doing to me, but if short responses bother you, maybe post ideas that actually merit lengthier discussion instead of swift dismissal for their silliness
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