The State of the Democratic Party Post-2016

[Arlenton]

Must be why I said it.

That sounds like...

...You win this round.

[MERIZoC]

Russ Feingold was one of the few democrats who doest fellatiate goldman sachs

I think it's just "fellate," but I could be wrong.

lol I spelled doesn't wrong too that's what I get for tired posting

[Lake Crossing]

The state of the Dems in 2017?

The Democratic Party and general left is in a decrepit state.

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success. The draft proposal cuts rates across the board. We haven't seen any alternatives from the minority. We may have failed on health care, but at least he is trying to fix the chaos known as the "Affordable Care Act." Again, Dems haven't drafted any reform bills of their own. Democrats are focused on Trump's harsh tone and social issues, while Trump (whether you think he's bullshitting or not) talks about bringing jobs back to our shores. The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Dems also seem to make everything worse then they actually are. Unemployment is at 4.1%, monthly job growth is strong, poverty is at pre-recession levels, and our economic outlook is strong. America is not, as some would have us believe, on the brink. Quite the opposite if anything. This same principle applies to the travel bans. The immigration executive orders that Trump signed only apply for 90-180 days, and are meant to give us a chance to reevaluate our security measures. Given the high threat of terrorism the west is facing right now this is not an unreasonable move. What is certain is that the narrative of America completely turning its back on people looking to move here is absurd.

I'm not a Trump bot, so I am deeply concerned about what Robert Mueller's investigation may bring forward. However, at this moment, there is no "smoking gun" proving that Trump colluded with Russia. None. Even Papadapolous hasn't shown this. The left keeps insinuating that there's a conspiracy but until Mueller concludes his research and indictments, we won't know for sure. What we do know is that people are getting sick and tired of liberals in Congress calling for impeachment over pure speculation.

Because the economy is doing strongly and the Dems are having trouble finding unity between the Berners and centrists, I don't think that the 2018 elections will be as kind as midterms usually are to the opposition party.

[Albrenia]

You sure about that 'decisive action'? He's failed quite a lot for the first year in office.

Otherwise, yeah, the Democrats are a shitshow right now.

[Telconi]

You sure about that 'decisive action'? He's failed quite a lot for the first year in office.

SCOTUS was pretty nice.

[Tyrassueb]

The state of the Dems in 2017?

The Democratic Party and general left is in a decrepit state.

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success. The draft proposal cuts rates across the board. We haven't seen any alternatives from the minority. We may have failed on health care, but at least he is trying to fix the chaos known as the "Affordable Care Act." Again, Dems haven't drafted any reform bills of their own. Democrats are focused on Trump's harsh tone and social issues, while Trump (whether you think he's bullshitting or not) talks about bringing jobs back to our shores. The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Dems also seem to make everything worse then they actually are. Unemployment is at 4.1%, monthly job growth is strong, poverty is at pre-recession levels, and our economic outlook is strong. America is not, as some would have us believe, on the brink. Quite the opposite if anything. This same principle applies to the travel bans. The immigration executive orders that Trump signed only apply for 90-180 days, and are meant to give us a chance to reevaluate our security measures. Given the high threat of terrorism the west is facing right now this is not an unreasonable move. What is certain is that the narrative of America completely turning its back on people looking to move here is absurd.

I'm not a Trump bot, so I am deeply concerned about what Robert Mueller's investigation may bring forward. However, at this moment, there is no "smoking gun" proving that Trump colluded with Russia. None. Even Papadapolous hasn't shown this. The left keeps insinuating that there's a conspiracy but until Mueller concludes his research and indictments, we won't know for sure. What we do know is that people are getting sick and tired of liberals in Congress calling for impeachment over pure speculation.

Because the economy is doing strongly and the Dems are having trouble finding unity between the Berners and centrists, I don't think that the 2018 elections will be as kind as midterms usually are to the opposition party.

1 - Tax reform is not going to be popular because it grossly imbalances the changes to benefit the rich and corporations while putting burdens on the working class and poor such as getting rid of deductions for moving for work, adopting children, people who get a divorce, eliminates deductions for student loan payments and medical cost deductions for the seriously ill while making it far easier for the rich to file less in taxes by forming "pass-through" corporations.
2 - The ACA is a mess but the Republican plans would have thrown millions off the market as well spike prices. They've asked Republicans for years to help them make the law better to which the Republicans have dug in their heels and said "no."
3 - That self-proclaimed socialist, by the way, is the most popular national politician in the country with favorables that would make any other lawmaker swoon.
4 - Dems inherit all the shit from Republicans time and time again. Unemployment is low and poverty is at pre-recession levels not because of Republicans but because of Dems. It's the same thing as saying that since the Recession flared up in 2008 and Obama got in in 2009 that he was to blame for the recession. Presidents inherit the troubles and boons of the previous presidents.
5 - You're more likely to die from being struck by lightning or being shot by a child in the US than be killed in a terrorist act. When the Las Vegas shooting occurred everyone on the Right shouted not to politicize it and drowned out voices calling for reform but one terrorist act and it's like the whole world if coming down around them. I'm not saying that what happened was not a tragedy but when more people die each day from drunk driving, smoking, opioid withdraws and more, it really shows how the Right skews the narrative.
6 - I agree that until Mueller makes an actual announcement then we have to assume the Trump campaign as a whole is free from the conspiracy charges being thrown at it. However, to say there is no conspiracy is wrong since those two men where just charged with conspiracy.
7 - The economy is not doing strongly, it's back to pre-recession. I would not call the pre-recession economy the best for the middle class and poor since wages have been stagnating for decades and inflation is up.
8 - I do agree that the midterms will not be rosy barring some major mess up from the right, especially since the Dems are hemorrhaging money right now because the Berners and the Centrists are both fed up with it's incompetency.

[USS Monitor]

Not a swift death.
It most likely would have been a slow death.

We could have voted for Cthulhu. Because why vote for the lesser of two evils?

https://cthulhuforamerica.com/
He has a lot of great policies for this planet. The Great Old Ones are generally more ethical than most political parties.

I would prefer him over Trump.

[Albrenia]

https://cthulhuforamerica.com/
He has a lot of great policies for this planet. The Great Old Ones are generally more ethical than most political parties.

I would prefer him over Trump.

He's strong on equality, and some of his solutions are thinking out of the box too!

[Lake Crossing]

The state of the Dems in 2017?

The Democratic Party and general left is in a decrepit state.

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success. The draft proposal cuts rates across the board. We haven't seen any alternatives from the minority. We may have failed on health care, but at least he is trying to fix the chaos known as the "Affordable Care Act." Again, Dems haven't drafted any reform bills of their own. Democrats are focused on Trump's harsh tone and social issues, while Trump (whether you think he's bullshitting or not) talks about bringing jobs back to our shores. The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Dems also seem to make everything worse then they actually are. Unemployment is at 4.1%, monthly job growth is strong, poverty is at pre-recession levels, and our economic outlook is strong. America is not, as some would have us believe, on the brink. Quite the opposite if anything. This same principle applies to the travel bans. The immigration executive orders that Trump signed only apply for 90-180 days, and are meant to give us a chance to reevaluate our security measures. Given the high threat of terrorism the west is facing right now this is not an unreasonable move. What is certain is that the narrative of America completely turning its back on people looking to move here is absurd.

I'm not a Trump bot, so I am deeply concerned about what Robert Mueller's investigation may bring forward. However, at this moment, there is no "smoking gun" proving that Trump colluded with Russia. None. Even Papadapolous hasn't shown this. The left keeps insinuating that there's a conspiracy but until Mueller concludes his research and indictments, we won't know for sure. What we do know is that people are getting sick and tired of liberals in Congress calling for impeachment over pure speculation.

Because the economy is doing strongly and the Dems are having trouble finding unity between the Berners and centrists, I don't think that the 2018 elections will be as kind as midterms usually are to the opposition party.

1 - Tax reform is not going to be popular because it grossly imbalances the changes to benefit the rich and corporations while putting burdens on the working class and poor such as getting rid of deductions for moving for work, adopting children, people who get a divorce, eliminates deductions for student loan payments and medical cost deductions for the seriously ill while making it far easier for the rich to file less in taxes by forming "pass-through" corporations.
2 - The ACA is a mess but the Republican plans would have thrown millions off the market as well spike prices. They've asked Republicans for years to help them make the law better to which the Republicans have dug in their heels and said "no."
3 - That self-proclaimed socialist, by the way, is the most popular national politician in the country with favorables that would make any other lawmaker swoon.
4 - Dems inherit all the shit from Republicans time and time again. Unemployment is low and poverty is at pre-recession levels not because of Republicans but because of Dems. It's the same thing as saying that since the Recession flared up in 2008 and Obama got in in 2009 that he was to blame for the recession. Presidents inherit the troubles and boons of the previous presidents.
5 - You're more likely to die from being struck by lightning or being shot by a child in the US than be killed in a terrorist act. When the Las Vegas shooting occurred everyone on the Right shouted not to politicize it and drowned out voices calling for reform but one terrorist act and it's like the whole world if coming down around them. I'm not saying that what happened was not a tragedy but when more people die each day from drunk driving, smoking, opioid withdraws and more, it really shows how the Right skews the narrative.
6 - I agree that until Mueller makes an actual announcement then we have to assume the Trump campaign as a whole is free from the conspiracy charges being thrown at it. However, to say there is no conspiracy is wrong since those two men where just charged with conspiracy.
7 - The economy is not doing strongly, it's back to pre-recession. I would not call the pre-recession economy the best for the middle class and poor since wages have been stagnating for decades and inflation is up.
8 - I do agree that the midterms will not be rosy barring some major mess up from the right, especially since the Dems are hemorrhaging money right now because the Berners and the Centrists are both fed up with it's incompetency.

1) The current tax reform proposal boosts the standard deduction, expands the Child Tax Credit, cuts rates for the bulk of middle class families (many current taxpayers will see their burdens shrink significantly), etc. Yes, some benefits will have to be closed in order to make way for these changes. However, the whole thing is still being negotiated, so we'll see what happens.

2) Not a single Republican vote was given to the PPACA in 2010, and the concerns of both moderates/conservatives in our caucus were overlooked in order to get something passed. There was a reason for that animosity from 2011-2016.

3) That self-proclaimed socialist still defended authoritarian leaders in the twentieth century and made the notion of socialism palatable to the younger generation. Regardless of his poll numbers, I would personally argue his ideological influence on the nation has been damaging. What is especially insane is that he isn't actually a socialist, and could've avoided promoting that concept while still pushing through a liberal agenda.

4) Ah, but I wasn't arguing that the Donald Trump was the reason the economy was doing well. My point was that things aren't as bad as the left points out. I argue that economies largely correct themselves after recessions. If the government does play a role, it's mainly through the Federal Reserve and not relatively minor fiscal policies. That goes for Dem and Rep administrations. Although, if we are going to play that gambit, what of the massive economic boom of the 1980's (Reagan), that followed a Democratic administration and stagflation?

5) National security is the purview of the Federal Government. Regulating arms is not.

6) "Those two men." Do you refer to Manafort and Gates? Their indictments are based on financial laundering completely unrelated to the Trump campaign.

7) Wages in 2015 grew faster than at any point since the 1990's, and all stratas are seeing boosts in economic gain.

[Hittanryan]

The state of the Dems in 2017?

The Democratic Party and general left is in a decrepit state.

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success. The draft proposal cuts rates across the board. We haven't seen any alternatives from the minority. We may have failed on health care, but at least he is trying to fix the chaos known as the "Affordable Care Act." Again, Dems haven't drafted any reform bills of their own. Democrats are focused on Trump's harsh tone and social issues, while Trump (whether you think he's bullshitting or not) talks about bringing jobs back to our shores. The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Dems also seem to make everything worse then they actually are. Unemployment is at 4.1%, monthly job growth is strong, poverty is at pre-recession levels, and our economic outlook is strong. America is not, as some would have us believe, on the brink. Quite the opposite if anything. This same principle applies to the travel bans. The immigration executive orders that Trump signed only apply for 90-180 days, and are meant to give us a chance to reevaluate our security measures. Given the high threat of terrorism the west is facing right now this is not an unreasonable move. What is certain is that the narrative of America completely turning its back on people looking to move here is absurd.

I'm not a Trump bot, so I am deeply concerned about what Robert Mueller's investigation may bring forward. However, at this moment, there is no "smoking gun" proving that Trump colluded with Russia. None. Even Papadapolous hasn't shown this. The left keeps insinuating that there's a conspiracy but until Mueller concludes his research and indictments, we won't know for sure. What we do know is that people are getting sick and tired of liberals in Congress calling for impeachment over pure speculation.

Because the economy is doing strongly and the Dems are having trouble finding unity between the Berners and centrists, I don't think that the 2018 elections will be as kind as midterms usually are to the opposition party.

Trump hasn't passed any economic policies whatsoever. If the economy is doing well and unemployment is down, that's because of Obama-era policies and Congressional inability to reverse them. It was Trump who was preaching doom and gloom about the economy for virtually his entire campaign--at least until he got elected, at which point he started taking credit for all of the economic gains made under Obama. Notice also how his rhetoric on China and NAFTA virtually disappeared once elected, in case you hadn't noticed.

Obamacare is working much better in states that actually cooperated with the feds (i.e. New York, where premiums are going down) instead of fighting them (i.e. Kentucky, McConnell's state, which will see big premium increases thanks to him). It also increases consumer protections against the utterly vampiric health insurance companies, which is essential considering their whole business model relies on denying people healthcare.

As far as his tax breaks for the rich go, Sam Brownback demonstrated in Kansas that trickle down economics lead to fiscal ruin while failing to generate any appreciable economic growth for the people as a whole. All it does is fill the coffers of billionaires' offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands. The Republicans' trickle down bullshit is likely going to RAISE taxes and expenses for the middle class by eliminating deductions and funding for Medicare and Medicaid. Trickle down economics has never worked, isn't going to work now, and never will work. It's a lie that's been perpetuated since the 1980s to justify giving kickbacks to campaign donors.

On the travel ban, you're blatantly wrong. Trump's line was "we need the travel ban while we conduct a review of the vetting process for 90 days." That review could have been finished several times over by this point in his Presidency if he didn't hold his breath for the courts to accept his travel ban. Nearly every recent ISIS-inspired terrorist attack has been carried out not by refugees but by naturalized US citizens radicalized at home. Why didn't Trump simply conduct the review? Could it be he really did just want to ban Muslims and the review was a smokescreen?

On Moeller, how do you know the results of the investigation before they're released? You're sure that the investigation is "pure speculation"? How do you know that? Do you know something the Special Counsel doesn't? Why not wait for the results of the investigation if you are actually concerned about it?

[Collatis]

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o really?

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success.

Do you get your news straight from Trump's twitter feed?

I thought you said you weren't a Trump bot.

The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Hideous dictators?

[Corrian]

The tax plans are very unpopular last I checked.

[Vassenor]

The state of the Dems in 2017?

The Democratic Party and general left is in a decrepit state.

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success. The draft proposal cuts rates across the board. We haven't seen any alternatives from the minority. We may have failed on health care, but at least he is trying to fix the chaos known as the "Affordable Care Act." Again, Dems haven't drafted any reform bills of their own. Democrats are focused on Trump's harsh tone and social issues, while Trump (whether you think he's bullshitting or not) talks about bringing jobs back to our shores. The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Dems also seem to make everything worse then they actually are. Unemployment is at 4.1%, monthly job growth is strong, poverty is at pre-recession levels, and our economic outlook is strong. America is not, as some would have us believe, on the brink. Quite the opposite if anything. This same principle applies to the travel bans. The immigration executive orders that Trump signed only apply for 90-180 days, and are meant to give us a chance to reevaluate our security measures. Given the high threat of terrorism the west is facing right now this is not an unreasonable move. What is certain is that the narrative of America completely turning its back on people looking to move here is absurd.

I'm not a Trump bot, so I am deeply concerned about what Robert Mueller's investigation may bring forward. However, at this moment, there is no "smoking gun" proving that Trump colluded with Russia. None. Even Papadapolous hasn't shown this. The left keeps insinuating that there's a conspiracy but until Mueller concludes his research and indictments, we won't know for sure. What we do know is that people are getting sick and tired of liberals in Congress calling for impeachment over pure speculation.

Because the economy is doing strongly and the Dems are having trouble finding unity between the Berners and centrists, I don't think that the 2018 elections will be as kind as midterms usually are to the opposition party.

Right, which is why there's a massive stink being raised in Congress about the SALT deductions being removed.

[Corrian]

Also conservatives are pissed about the Adoption Credit going away, because that is in fact a very pro-life policy.

[Vassenor]

Also conservatives are pissed about the Adoption Credit going away, because that is in fact a very pro-life policy.

But yeah, apart from those things everyone is totally on board with the tax cuts.

[Arlenton]

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o really?

...Except to third way liberals.

[Collatis]

o really?

...Except to third way liberals.

Wrong!

Also, your sig legitimately triggered me.

[Arlenton]

...Except to third way liberals.

Wrong!

Also, your sig legitimately triggered me.

Hey Trump turned out to be a closet neocon! ...Who still says stupid shit.

[Northern Davincia]

Wrong!

Also, your sig legitimately triggered me.

Hey Trump turned out to be a closet neocon! ...Who still says stupid shit.

Alas, we misunderestimated him.

[Hittanryan]

Hey Trump turned out to be a closet neocon! ...Who still says stupid shit.

Alas, we misunderestimated him.

No not really. I think many of us on this very forum have a traceable record going back calling Trump a con man from the very beginning. We said that he didn't talk about how he was going to deliver on his promises because he had no intention of doing so and didn't know how to do so. Look where we are today.

[USS Monitor]

The state of the Dems in 2017?

The Democratic Party and general left is in a decrepit state.

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success. The draft proposal cuts rates across the board. We haven't seen any alternatives from the minority. We may have failed on health care, but at least he is trying to fix the chaos known as the "Affordable Care Act." Again, Dems haven't drafted any reform bills of their own. Democrats are focused on Trump's harsh tone and social issues, while Trump (whether you think he's bullshitting or not) talks about bringing jobs back to our shores. The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Dems also seem to make everything worse then they actually are. Unemployment is at 4.1%, monthly job growth is strong, poverty is at pre-recession levels, and our economic outlook is strong. America is not, as some would have us believe, on the brink. Quite the opposite if anything. This same principle applies to the travel bans. The immigration executive orders that Trump signed only apply for 90-180 days, and are meant to give us a chance to reevaluate our security measures. Given the high threat of terrorism the west is facing right now this is not an unreasonable move. What is certain is that the narrative of America completely turning its back on people looking to move here is absurd.

I'm not a Trump bot, so I am deeply concerned about what Robert Mueller's investigation may bring forward. However, at this moment, there is no "smoking gun" proving that Trump colluded with Russia. None. Even Papadapolous hasn't shown this. The left keeps insinuating that there's a conspiracy but until Mueller concludes his research and indictments, we won't know for sure. What we do know is that people are getting sick and tired of liberals in Congress calling for impeachment over pure speculation.

Because the economy is doing strongly and the Dems are having trouble finding unity between the Berners and centrists, I don't think that the 2018 elections will be as kind as midterms usually are to the opposition party.

Trump hasn't passed any economic policies whatsoever. If the economy is doing well and unemployment is down, that's because of Obama-era policies and Congressional inability to reverse them. It was Trump who was preaching doom and gloom about the economy for virtually his entire campaign--at least until he got elected, at which point he started taking credit for all of the economic gains made under Obama. Notice also how his rhetoric on China and NAFTA virtually disappeared once elected, in case you hadn't noticed.

Obamacare is working much better in states that actually cooperated with the feds (i.e. New York, where premiums are going down) instead of fighting them (i.e. Kentucky, McConnell's state, which will see big premium increases thanks to him). It also increases consumer protections against the utterly vampiric health insurance companies, which is essential considering their whole business model relies on denying people healthcare.

As far as his tax breaks for the rich go, Sam Brownback demonstrated in Kansas that trickle down economics lead to fiscal ruin while failing to generate any appreciable economic growth for the people as a whole. All it does is fill the coffers of billionaires' offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands. The Republicans' trickle down bullshit is likely going to RAISE taxes and expenses for the middle class by eliminating deductions and funding for Medicare and Medicaid. Trickle down economics has never worked, isn't going to work now, and never will work. It's a lie that's been perpetuated since the 1980s to justify giving kickbacks to campaign donors.

On the travel ban, you're blatantly wrong. Trump's line was "we need the travel ban while we conduct a review of the vetting process for 90 days." That review could have been finished several times over by this point in his Presidency if he didn't hold his breath for the courts to accept his travel ban. Nearly every recent ISIS-inspired terrorist attack has been carried out not by refugees but by naturalized US citizens radicalized at home. Why didn't Trump simply conduct the review? Could it be he really did just want to ban Muslims and the review was a smokescreen?

On Moeller, how do you know the results of the investigation before they're released? You're sure that the investigation is "pure speculation"? How do you know that? Do you know something the Special Counsel doesn't? Why not wait for the results of the investigation if you are actually concerned about it?

Thank you for writing up the rebuttal that I didn't have the brainpower to write last night at 4AM.

[Hittanryan]

Trump hasn't passed any economic policies whatsoever. If the economy is doing well and unemployment is down, that's because of Obama-era policies and Congressional inability to reverse them. It was Trump who was preaching doom and gloom about the economy for virtually his entire campaign--at least until he got elected, at which point he started taking credit for all of the economic gains made under Obama. Notice also how his rhetoric on China and NAFTA virtually disappeared once elected, in case you hadn't noticed.

Obamacare is working much better in states that actually cooperated with the feds (i.e. New York, where premiums are going down) instead of fighting them (i.e. Kentucky, McConnell's state, which will see big premium increases thanks to him). It also increases consumer protections against the utterly vampiric health insurance companies, which is essential considering their whole business model relies on denying people healthcare.

As far as his tax breaks for the rich go, Sam Brownback demonstrated in Kansas that trickle down economics lead to fiscal ruin while failing to generate any appreciable economic growth for the people as a whole. All it does is fill the coffers of billionaires' offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands. The Republicans' trickle down bullshit is likely going to RAISE taxes and expenses for the middle class by eliminating deductions and funding for Medicare and Medicaid. Trickle down economics has never worked, isn't going to work now, and never will work. It's a lie that's been perpetuated since the 1980s to justify giving kickbacks to campaign donors.

On the travel ban, you're blatantly wrong. Trump's line was "we need the travel ban while we conduct a review of the vetting process for 90 days." That review could have been finished several times over by this point in his Presidency if he didn't hold his breath for the courts to accept his travel ban. Nearly every recent ISIS-inspired terrorist attack has been carried out not by refugees but by naturalized US citizens radicalized at home. Why didn't Trump simply conduct the review? Could it be he really did just want to ban Muslims and the review was a smokescreen?

On Moeller, how do you know the results of the investigation before they're released? You're sure that the investigation is "pure speculation"? How do you know that? Do you know something the Special Counsel doesn't? Why not wait for the results of the investigation if you are actually concerned about it?

Thank you for writing up the rebuttal that I didn't have the brainpower to write last night at 4AM.

You're welcome.

[United Muscovite Nations]

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o really?

Love or hate what they stand for, Trump and the Republicans are taking decisive action on the issues. Tax reform is likely to be a huge success.

Do you get your news straight from Trump's twitter feed?

I thought you said you weren't a Trump bot.

The only leader on the left who are focusing on these bread and butter issues is a self-proclaimed socialist who praised hideous dictators such as Castro and Lenin back in the 1980's.

Hideous dictators?

Saddam's regime was not an evil dictatorship. Saddam kept the country together in the face of warring factions. We've seen what happens when Iraq doesn't have a strongman.

[Telconi]

Also conservatives are pissed about the Adoption Credit going away, because that is in fact a very pro-life policy.

But yeah, apart from those things everyone is totally on board with the tax cuts.

I'm not, he''s going in the damn wrong direction. But whatever, neo-cons gonna neo-con.

[Corrian]

In reality, I am pretty sure Mueller knows way, way, way more than we do. As he should at the moment.