The State of the Democratic Party Post-2016

[Conserative Morality]

There's different strains of feminism I suppose.

I think Sanders is being completely sincere when he tells people he's a feminist. It's not something he just said because it sounded good. It's a concept he honestly likes.

But that doesn't mean he has any great insight into women's issues. I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Liking an idea is not the same as being deeply informed on the subject.

Probably could be said to have a passion for and knowledge of the intersectionality of wealth inequality and women's rights. I'm not the organizers and don't have any insight into their thought process, but even just that subject alone seems like it could be a good reason to have him as a speaker, not to mention that he's very prominent right now and gives a lot of exposure to any event he goes to.

[USS Monitor]

I think Sanders is being completely sincere when he tells people he's a feminist. It's not something he just said because it sounded good. It's a concept he honestly likes.

But that doesn't mean he has any great insight into women's issues. I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Liking an idea is not the same as being deeply informed on the subject.

Probably could be said to have a passion for and knowledge of the intersectionality of wealth inequality and women's rights. I'm not the organizers and don't have any insight into their thought process, but even just that subject alone seems like it could be a good reason to have him as a speaker, not to mention that he's very prominent right now and gives a lot of exposure to any event he goes to.

I don't think he has any clue what he's talking about as far as intersectionality of wealth inequality and women's rights. He's obsessive about economic equality, but when he throws in stuff like women's rights or racial equality, it's an afterthought with no great insight attached. He likes social equality, just doesn't give it the same priority as economics or understand it in the same depth.

I'm pretty sure he got invited because he's a big name and it would draw attention.

[MERIZoC]

The organizers asked him to?

Why, though?

....Because he's a popular politician on the front line of the battle for economic and social justice. I struggle to see what's confusing here.

[MERIZoC]

There's different strains of feminism I suppose.

I think Sanders is being completely sincere when he tells people he's a feminist. It's not something he just said because it sounded good. It's a concept he honestly likes.

But that doesn't mean he has any great insight into women's issues. I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Liking an idea is not the same as being deeply informed on the subject.

He's certainly got more insight into women's issues than anyone who opposes universal healthcare, or increasing support for childcare.

[Bakery Hill]

There's different strains of feminism I suppose.

I think Sanders is being completely sincere when he tells people he's a feminist. It's not something he just said because it sounded good. It's a concept he honestly likes.

But that doesn't mean he has any great insight into women's issues. I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Liking an idea is not the same as being deeply informed on the subject.

Yes, I'd probably agree. I don't call myself a feminist for basically those reasons.

[Corrian]

Even if he's bad at some of these things, I think merely working towards economic equality and policies in general will help ALL of those areas at once.

[Hittanryan]

Even if he's bad at some of these things, I think merely working towards economic equality and policies in general will help ALL of those areas at once.

I think that would help far more than identity politics. When it comes to addressing racial and gender inequality, I think proponents of identity politics have swung and missed. They think there's a deliberate conspiracy against a particular race, gender, religion, and sexual orientation when really most of the problems stem from our government being dominated by wealthy special interests.

[Corrian]

Even if he's bad at some of these things, I think merely working towards economic equality and policies in general will help ALL of those areas at once.

I think that would help far more than identity politics. When it comes to addressing racial and gender inequality, I think proponents of identity politics have swung and missed. They think there's a deliberate conspiracy against a particular race, gender, religion, and sexual orientation when really most of the problems stem from our government being dominated by wealthy special interests.

Eliminate all of those problems and watch as everything goes better for everyone.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Even if he's bad at some of these things, I think merely working towards economic equality and policies in general will help ALL of those areas at once.

I think that would help far more than identity politics. When it comes to addressing racial and gender inequality, I think proponents of identity politics have swung and missed. They think there's a deliberate conspiracy against a particular race, gender, religion, and sexual orientation when really most of the problems stem from our government being dominated by wealthy special interests.

The unfortunate problem is that he who denies said wealthy special interests also signs his own political suicide note.

[Hittanryan]

I think that would help far more than identity politics. When it comes to addressing racial and gender inequality, I think proponents of identity politics have swung and missed. They think there's a deliberate conspiracy against a particular race, gender, religion, and sexual orientation when really most of the problems stem from our government being dominated by wealthy special interests.

Eliminate all of those problems and watch as everything goes better for everyone.

And the goals of campaign finance reform, healthcare reform, etc. are much more concrete than whatever it is identity politics expects everyone to do.

Campaign finance reform: enact limits on campaign spending, give all candidates a set amount of free television ad space, shorten the endless campaign season if needs be by banning campaigning prior to a fixed date before Election Day.

Healthcare reform: admit that Americans have the worst healthcare in the developed world and address the high costs and lack of access, develop a plan for single-payer based on successful healthcare systems in other countries.

Identity politics: "Fight the patriarchy!" "How?" "I dunno, blame men for bad stuff and say it's a conspiracy."

One of these things is not like the others.

[Uiiop]

Eliminate all of those problems and watch as everything goes better for everyone.

And the goals of campaign finance reform, healthcare reform, etc. are much more concrete than whatever it is identity politics expects everyone to do.

Campaign finance reform: enact limits on campaign spending, give all candidates a set amount of free television ad space, shorten the endless campaign season if needs be by banning campaigning prior to a fixed date before Election Day.

Healthcare reform: admit that Americans have the worst healthcare in the developed world and address the high costs and lack of access, develop a plan for single-payer based on successful healthcare systems in other countries.

Identity politics: "Fight the patriarchy!" "How?" "I dunno, blame men for bad stuff and say it's a conspiracy."

One of these things is not like the others.

That's because the last bit is a strawman that ca nbe equally applied to the other two.
People have suggested solutions in this area even if they're stupid or bitchy about it.
Just for example one of the problems of the Clinton campaign is a flawed implementation of the solutions from the same type of ID that apparently haven't thought of it.
Tbh this seems more of a reaction of tone rather than asking and/or listening to ID groups on what they want.

[Eibenland]

Even if he's bad at some of these things, I think merely working towards economic equality and policies in general will help ALL of those areas at once.

I think that would help far more than identity politics. When it comes to addressing racial and gender inequality, I think proponents of identity politics have swung and missed. They think there's a deliberate conspiracy against a particular race, gender, religion, and sexual orientation when really most of the problems stem from our government being dominated by wealthy special interests.

Most of the proponents of identity politics I've talked to believe both.

[USS Monitor]

I think Sanders is being completely sincere when he tells people he's a feminist. It's not something he just said because it sounded good. It's a concept he honestly likes.

But that doesn't mean he has any great insight into women's issues. I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Liking an idea is not the same as being deeply informed on the subject.

Yes, I'd probably agree. I don't call myself a feminist for basically those reasons.

I don't have a problem with him using the label because I do think he's sincere about it. He's a feminist, just not always a well-informed one.

[USS Monitor]

Even if he's bad at some of these things, I think merely working towards economic equality and policies in general will help ALL of those areas at once.

That seems to be what Sanders thinks too, which is why he is so much more interested in economic equality than any other issue.

[USS Monitor]

Eliminate all of those problems and watch as everything goes better for everyone.

And the goals of campaign finance reform, healthcare reform, etc. are much more concrete than whatever it is identity politics expects everyone to do.

Campaign finance reform: enact limits on campaign spending, give all candidates a set amount of free television ad space, shorten the endless campaign season if needs be by banning campaigning prior to a fixed date before Election Day.

Banning campaigning before a fixed date would violate freedom of speech.

[Hittanryan]

And the goals of campaign finance reform, healthcare reform, etc. are much more concrete than whatever it is identity politics expects everyone to do.

Campaign finance reform: enact limits on campaign spending, give all candidates a set amount of free television ad space, shorten the endless campaign season if needs be by banning campaigning prior to a fixed date before Election Day.

Banning campaigning before a fixed date would violate freedom of speech.

Sorry, correction, banning campaign advertising before a certain date.

[USS Monitor]

Banning campaigning before a fixed date would violate freedom of speech.

Sorry, correction, banning campaign advertising before a certain date.

It's essentially the same thing and still a free speech violation.

[Senkaku]

No, but it was most certainly a war that stopped genocide.

And 10s of millions died....

And it was still a decently good outcome, given the other possibilities.

[Hittanryan]

Sorry, correction, banning campaign advertising before a certain date.

It's essentially the same thing and still a free speech violation.

You must admit that the absurd length of our campaign seasons drives up the costs of advertising for candidates. It’s one of the reasons there’s so much special interest money in our government.

[Valrifell]

It's essentially the same thing and still a free speech violation.

You must admit that the absurd length of our campaign seasons drives up the costs of advertising for candidates. It’s one of the reasons there’s so much special interest money in our government.

I'd suggest public funding for all campaigns, but fuck that just sounds super expensive when you realize we literally never stop campaigning.

[Collatis]

You must admit that the absurd length of our campaign seasons drives up the costs of advertising for candidates. It’s one of the reasons there’s so much special interest money in our government.

I'd suggest public funding for all campaigns, but fuck that just sounds super expensive when you realize we literally never stop campaigning.

I think a simple solution would be to limit public funding to X number of days before the election. So campaigns only receive public funding during the established campaign season.

[Telconi]

I'd suggest public funding for all campaigns, but fuck that just sounds super expensive when you realize we literally never stop campaigning.

I think a simple solution would be to limit public funding to X number of days before the election. So campaigns only receive public funding during the established campaign season.

I'd rather see an "X number of dollars" limit.

[Senkaku]

I think a simple solution would be to limit public funding to X number of days before the election. So campaigns only receive public funding during the established campaign season.

I'd rather see an "X number of dollars" limit.

[Telconi]

I'd rather see an "X number of dollars" limit.

Because I'd like the candidate to be able to use those X dollars when and how he wished.

Perhaps burn them early on advertisements and publicity with the intent to draw donors early on, perhaps use them in a final October media blitz, I think limiting a candidate's campaign window is a bad idea. But allowing a candidate to just burn through public funds at will is probably a bad idea too.

[Senkaku]

Because I'd like the candidate to be able to use those X dollars when and how he wished.

Perhaps burn them early on advertisements and publicity with the intent to draw donors early on, perhaps use them in a final October media blitz, I think limiting a candidate's campaign window is a bad idea. But allowing a candidate to just burn through public funds at will is probably a bad idea too.

I mean, they could use them when and how they wished... within the window.