Should Rohingyas Be Sent Back From Bangladesh

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

Yesterday a Rohingya killed a Bangladeshi in Cox's Bazar.Ever since we let the Rohingyas in the country,crime rate in the area has increased,muggings and other stuff.
So please tell me your opinions on whether Bangladesh should deport the Rohingyas???

No. Deporting is not the best option, it's the worst option. Myanmar would attempt to deport them back to Bangladesh and the cycle continues. And the other alternative is for the Myanmar buddhists to collaborates with the military and cleanse the Rohingya, and it is not good.

[Bengal and Assam]

What I want to say is that since Rohingyas aren't citizens of Bangladesh and all of them came here without visas,they should be segregated from the Bangladeshis and should be sent back or deported to a country which will accept them more...

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

They're an undesirable fifth column that threatens the nation apparently the only solution to which seems to be "deportation". I don't see any parallels here at all.

And apparently this sentiment seems shared by nearly every surrounding nation in that part of Asia.

Just change "Rohingya" with other minorities and there you have it. Same ideas, just different targets.

[Petrasylvania]

Rohingya are the new Jews?

They're an undesirable fifth column that threatens the nation apparently the only solution to which seems to be "deportation". I don't see any parallels here at all.

Undesirable fifth column? There isn't a single country where Rohingya have any influence in government, much less a population advantage. They're being treated contemptuously like the Roma and even worse due to the ethnic cleansing.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

What I want to say is that since Rohingyas aren't citizens of Bangladesh and all of them came here without visas,they should be segregated from the Bangladeshis and should be sent back or deported to a country which will accept them more...

Segregated? Then what is the different if they will end up at the same position like they were/are in Myanmar?

[Risottia]

Just like Irish people and Italians 150 years ago?

My forebears were Irish/Scots; but Protestant.

I think there was usually a working truce between Irish Catholics and Italian Catholics. In Erie PA, the Irish college is Mercyhurst and the Italian one (and Papal Institute) is Gannon. They don't mix much but they seem to get along all right.

Maybe I haven't been clear enough. I was talking about Catholic Italian immigrants in Catholic France (see the Camargue anti-Italian pogrom), or Christian Italians and Christian Irish in Christian America (see the anti-Irish and anti-Italian discrimination, lynchings and mass murders in America).
Your argument against Rohingyas echoes quite well the arguments brought forth by the persecutors of Italians and Irish back then.

[Bengal and Assam]

What I want to say is that since Rohingyas aren't citizens of Bangladesh and all of them came here without visas,they should be segregated from the Bangladeshis and should be sent back or deported to a country which will accept them more...

If we let them stay between us
Segregated? Then what is the different if they will end up at the same position like they were/are in Myanmar?

We need to send them off to UN administered camps,every rohingya who crossed the border without a visa or approval.They left everything over there and may begin commiting crimes.We are a middle income country which is becoming unstable because of this refugee crisis.Prices of food and basic stuff are increasing as more Rohingyas enter the country.

[Connori Pilgrims]

No one's going to force Bangladesh to accommodate the Rohingya. And even more so will no one force Myanmar to stop persecuting/killing the Rohingya.

Both countries are supported by China, who by the way doesn't two shits about these "surplus Muslims" so long as it doesn't interfere with their neoimperialist extraction of resources from Burma's gas fields, or the glorified jobs and markets program that is the One Belt One Road/Belt and Road Initiative.

The West has nothing, NOTHING to leverage against either Bangladesh or Myanmar. Any sort of diplomatic condemnation will fall on deaf ears, economic sanctions are all but useless now that big daddy China can literally throw money at them to keep them afloat and pro-China.

The only thing that has even a chance of working is a forcible military intervention, but given the confused attitude most Western body-politics now have about the merits of military intervention, combined with the fact that Myanmar is practically a Chinese protectorate and any intervention there will probably trigger Chinese responses, and well we know that this will go nowhere.

I'm sorry, but the Rohingya are a dead people walking. Their chances of survival or salvation are even less than the Jews during WWII or the Armenians after WWI.

[Aellex]

Maybe I haven't been clear enough. I was talking about Catholic Italian immigrants in Catholic France (see the Camargue anti-Italian pogrom), or Christian Italians and Christian Irish in Christian America (see the anti-Irish and anti-Italian discrimination, lynchings and mass murders in America).
Your argument against Rohingyas echoes quite well the arguments brought forth by the persecutors of Italians and Irish back then.

Italians weren't persecuted, tho, and the minutes amount of discrimination that did exist disappeared as soon as they started to assimilate rather than self-segregate. It's just that it took quite a long time for some to actually do that and the massive criminality (from the numerous terrorists to the petty thieves passing by those who tried to recreate their mafia here) of a lot of them didn't help for their P.R. in the meantime.

Anyway, before going all "woe me, how persecuted were we" and to continue with the example of France, I need to point out that the Belgians and Polish mass-immigration that happened at the same time wasn't met by any similar sentiment as they actually behaved unlike the Italians and we're eager to assimilate.
It's easy to blame it all on the "racism" of the native but sometime it's also good to do some introspective work and realise that when people constantly do shit, it's bound they get hit.

(And as for the Aigues-Mortes incident, it wasn't a pogrom and barely related to xenophobia but merely a fight between labourers that got nasty. It was the subsequent reactions from both sides, Italian and French, that actually were xenophobic.)

[Dahon]

You a Bangladeshi? If so (and pardon me, I really don't know), has your government asked for assistance (both logistical and financial) from Western governments and NGOs?

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

If we let them stay between us
Segregated? Then what is the different if they will end up at the same position like they were/are in Myanmar?

We need to send them off to UN administered camps,every rohingya who crossed the border without a visa or approval.They left everything over there and may begin commiting crimes.We are a middle income country which is becoming unstable because of this refugee crisis.Prices of food and basic stuff are increasing as more Rohingyas enter the country.

Such views, very similar like the European right-wing views on refugees.

You a Bangladeshi? If so (and pardon me, I really don't know), has your government asked for assistance (both logistical and financial) from Western governments and NGOs?

They probably already requested such assistances, but the aids may be insufficient.

I'm sorry, but the Rohingya are a dead people walking. Their chances of survival or salvation are even less than the Jews during WWII or the Armenians after WWI.

Sadly and unfortunate. The only other solution is if the Islamic community unites on this one issue, but even then I find this too unlikely to ever happens.

[Nusakarta]

The Burmese government shouldn't interfere the Rohingya's populace lives and should start accepting them as Burmese, the Burmese majority wouldn't want to be treated like that either.

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

The Burmese government shouldn't interfere the Rohingya's populace lives and should start accepting them as Burmese, the Burmese majority wouldn't want to be treated like that either.

But they don't recognized them.

[Nusakarta]

The Burmese government shouldn't interfere the Rohingya's populace lives and should start accepting them as Burmese, the Burmese majority wouldn't want to be treated like that either.

But they don't recognized them.

Yeah that's why they should start accepting them as Burmese

[Bakery Hill]

They're an undesirable fifth column that threatens the nation apparently the only solution to which seems to be "deportation". I don't see any parallels here at all.

Undesirable fifth column? There isn't a single country where Rohingya have any influence in government, much less a population advantage. They're being treated contemptuously like the Roma and even worse due to the ethnic cleansing.

I thought the sarcasm was clear?

[Aellex]

Such views, very similar like the European right-wing views on refugees.

Good to see you're starting to understand there is some truth to it.

[Petrasylvania]

Undesirable fifth column? There isn't a single country where Rohingya have any influence in government, much less a population advantage. They're being treated contemptuously like the Roma and even worse due to the ethnic cleansing.

I thought the sarcasm was clear?

Okay, I couldn't tell that time.

[Dahon]

Such views, very similar like the European right-wing views on refugees.

Good to see you're starting to understand there is some truth to it.

Some truth, buried under layer and layer of bullshit.

[Risottia]

The West has nothing, NOTHING to leverage against either Bangladesh or Myanmar. Any sort of diplomatic condemnation will fall on deaf ears, economic sanctions are all but useless now that big daddy China can literally throw money at them to keep them afloat and pro-China.

Rofl.

Let's say the EU imposes an embargo on textile trade against Bengali exports. I don't think the Bengali economy will be happy after that, while the EU can just import from India, China and Vietnam.

Or let's say the EU imposes a 50% tax on money transfers from EU countries to Bangladesh. I don't think the families of Bengali emigrants would be happy.

Or let's say the EU countries go tit for tat and merely repatriate all Bengali immigrants currently in the EU by cancelling their visas.

Or let's say France heroes the continued use of Bengali military as UN Blue Helmets.

Plenty of leverage.

[Risottia]

Maybe I haven't been clear enough. I was talking about Catholic Italian immigrants in Catholic France (see the Camargue anti-Italian pogrom), or Christian Italians and Christian Irish in Christian America (see the anti-Irish and anti-Italian discrimination, lynchings and mass murders in America).
Your argument against Rohingyas echoes quite well the arguments brought forth by the persecutors of Italians and Irish back then.

Italians weren't persecuted, tho, and the minutes amount of discrimination that did exist disappeared as soon as they started to assimilate rather than self-segregate. It's just that it took quite a long time for some to actually do that and the massive criminality (from the numerous terrorists to the petty thieves passing by those who tried to recreate their mafia here) of a lot of them didn't help for their P.R. in the meantime.

Anyway, before going all "woe me, how persecuted were we" and to continue with the example of France, I need to point out that the Belgians and Polish mass-immigration that happened at the same time wasn't met by any similar sentiment as they actually behaved unlike the Italians and we're eager to assimilate.
It's easy to blame it all on the "racism" of the native but sometime it's also good to do some introspective work and realise that when people constantly do shit, it's bound they get hit.

(And as for the Aigues-Mortes incident, it wasn't a pogrom and barely related to xenophobia but merely a fight between labourers that got nasty. It was the subsequent reactions from both sides, Italian and French, that actually were xenophobic.)

The Nile, still not just a river in Africa. Totally unexpected. Uh uh.

[Petrasylvania]

Italians weren't persecuted, tho, and the minutes amount of discrimination that did exist disappeared as soon as they started to assimilate rather than self-segregate. It's just that it took quite a long time for some to actually do that and the massive criminality (from the numerous terrorists to the petty thieves passing by those who tried to recreate their mafia here) of a lot of them didn't help for their P.R. in the meantime.

Anyway, before going all "woe me, how persecuted were we" and to continue with the example of France, I need to point out that the Belgians and Polish mass-immigration that happened at the same time wasn't met by any similar sentiment as they actually behaved unlike the Italians and we're eager to assimilate.
It's easy to blame it all on the "racism" of the native but sometime it's also good to do some introspective work and realise that when people constantly do shit, it's bound they get hit.

(And as for the Aigues-Mortes incident, it wasn't a pogrom and barely related to xenophobia but merely a fight between labourers that got nasty. It was the subsequent reactions from both sides, Italian and French, that actually were xenophobic.)

The Nile, still not just a river in Africa. Totally unexpected. Uh uh.

Also, Sacco and Vanzetti were given preferential treatment at trial.

[Chestaan]

Tarring any single ethnic group as a bunch of criminals (even the young children?!) is disgustingly racist. In any case, even if every single one of them was a thief it wouldn't justify ethnic cleansing.

[Trumptonium]

The West has nothing, NOTHING to leverage against either Bangladesh or Myanmar. Any sort of diplomatic condemnation will fall on deaf ears, economic sanctions are all but useless now that big daddy China can literally throw money at them to keep them afloat and pro-China.

Rofl.

Let's say the EU imposes an embargo on textile trade against Bengali exports. I don't think the Bengali economy will be happy after that, while the EU can just import from India, China and Vietnam.

So the EU will violate the WTO rules now?

Seems legit.

Or let's say the EU imposes a 50% tax on money transfers from EU countries to Bangladesh. I don't think the families of Bengali emigrants would be happy.

Such tax is not only extremely avoidable (just send it to India) but it won't work since most of them are in the UK, who is leaving.

Or let's say the EU countries go tit for tat and merely repatriate all Bengali immigrants currently in the EU by cancelling their visas.

See above.

[Aellex]

The Nile, still not just a river in Africa. Totally unexpected. Uh uh.

Calling you out on lies and setting things straight isn't quite so much denial than a love of the Truth.
There come a time when one must stop crying about imaginary persecutions and own up to the fact that his actions has consequences in how people treat him and his ilk.
Italians misbehaved and got a shit reputation for it that lead to things getting worst for them accordingly.
Poles and Belgians didn't and thus had no such problems to begin with.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The Nile, still not just a river in Africa. Totally unexpected. Uh uh.

Calling you out on lies and setting things straight isn't quite so much denial than a love of the Truth.
There come a time when one must stop crying about imaginary persecutions and own up to the fact that his actions has consequences in how people treat him and his ilk.
Italians misbehaved and got a shit reputation for it that lead to things getting worst for them accordingly.
Poles and Belgians didn't and thus had no such problems to begin with.

Uh huh yeah, cool.
The Rohinga's are targets of ethnic cleansing